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China looking for an international confrontation

Shaven

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China playing dangerous games.... no place to run, soon the whole of Asia will burn from nukes!!!
[video=youtube;4xg9yE4T25o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xg9yE4T25o[/video]
 
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tanwahtiu

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if war break up this will be an interesting time.

1. Angmoh got not enough descendent given their birth rate at 1.0 and if one killed no tax payers for their own country and no regeneration of their own kind. Furthermore they are coming for your Chinese daughters to breed.

2. More migration Asians living in US and Europe recently means Asians fighting for angmoh against their own 中国人? Can happen meh?

3. Never again can amgmoh rise again this time given they have no next generations to even pay taxes to go to war with the Far East people?
 
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yellowarse

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These buggers are just trying to fuel tensions. Like I said before, anyone who thinks that China screwed up big time by announcing the ADIZ obviously knows nuts about geopolitical strategy, and that goes for most Western analysts.

The Chinese are not stupid; they've definitely calculated that the US would want to test the zone, and that's one of the scenarios they would have prepared for, and probably exactly what they wanted.

By testing the no-fly zone, the US (& Japan) has fallen into China's trap:

1. The Chinese can now 'scramble' their jets and fly all over their proclaimed ADIZ, including the airspace over the Diaoyutai, justifying it on the basis that their airspace has been 'invaded' and they need to 'monitor' it aggressively;

2. Japan has been expanding their own ADIZ steadily westwards since America drew it up for them in the '50s. Now the Chinese can simply conduct combined aerial and naval manoeuvres in Japan's ADIZ with impunity, again justifying that 'you fly into my ADIZ, I didn't intercept you; now I fly into yours, you'd better lan lan and keep quiet".

When the entire commercial carrier fraternity eventually chooses to report to Beijing whenever they fly into the zone, it will be a de facto international recognition of Beijing's air boundaries, even if international law doesn't cover ADIZ's.

Win-win-win.​
 

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Actually China is NOT looking for a confrontation, any confrontation, yet. China needs time.... time to overtake every country in all aspects. Thereafter, confrontation becomes irrelevant and all must return to their rightful place viz-a-viz the Middle Kingdom. Wise SunTze.
 

tanwahtiu

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Obama is only wayang to lend hand to Japs. He will la kopi with China at the backyard begging to extend the debt longer.



These buggers are just trying to fuel tensions. Like I said before, anyone who thinks that China screwed up big time by announcing the ADIZ obviously knows nuts about geopolitical strategy, and that goes for most Western analysts.

The Chinese are not stupid; they've definitely calculated that the US would want to test the zone, and that's one of the scenarios they would have prepared for, and probably exactly what they wanted.

By testing the no-fly zone, the US (& Japan) has fallen into China's trap:

1. The Chinese can now 'scramble' their jets and fly all over their proclaimed ADIZ, including the airspace over the Diaoyutai, justifying it on the basis that their airspace has been 'invaded' and they need to 'monitor' it aggressively;

2. Japan has been expanding their own ADIZ steadily westwards since America drew it up for them in the '50s. Now the Chinese can simply conduct combined aerial and naval manoeuvres in Japan's ADIZ with impunity, again justifying that 'you fly into my ADIZ, I didn't intercept you; now I fly into yours, you'd better lan lan and keep quiet".

When the entire commercial carrier fraternity eventually chooses to report to Beijing whenever they fly into the zone, it will be a de facto international recognition of Beijing's air boundaries, even if international law doesn't cover ADIZ's.

Win-win-win.​
 

Shaven

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If there will be a shooting war between China and US/Japan/Korea/Philippines/Vietnam/Australia/UK/India/EU I don't think the allies will allow China first strike, the US and Japan can decimate China's Navy and Air Force in matter of days and the US nuclear subs will blow up all of China ICBM in their silos... China knows this. too many hawkish military in CCP that is out of control of Xi Jinping... the nuclear holocaust clock should be turned to 2 mins to midnight after China's provocative action.
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/02/u-s-navy-deploys-new-reconnaissance-planes-to-japan/?hpt=hp_t3
The U.S. Navy has deployed two of its next-generation reconnaissance aircraft to Japan, a long-planned move that comes amid controversy over Chinese air defenses.

Designed to enhance the Navy's long-range maritime patrol capability, the P-8A Poseidon's specialty is submarine detection, the Navy said. The planes flew from Norfolk, Virginia, to Kadena Air Base in Okinawa, in recent days.

The P-8A Poseidon also is part of the Navy's effort to phase out the P-3C Orion. It is more technologically advanced than its predecessor and can fly higher with a crew of up to nine. It also can carry torpedoes, cruise missiles, bombs and mines.
 

laksaboy

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China loves this kind of incident, because its propaganda machinery can use it to conveniently whip up patriotism.


[video=youtube;CfIvBf6W_f0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfIvBf6W_f0[/video]
 

yellowarse

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the nuclear holocaust clock should be turned to 2 mins to midnight after China's provocative action.

Please, lah ... you've been overdosing on the toxic garbage coming out of the fascist fear-mongers at Fox. The Chinese may be obstinate, but never stupid. The last thing they want is a nuclear holocaust on their own land.

The ADIZ is a natural development of China's intent to guard its territorial boundaries after a century of bullying and usurpation by foreign powers. It's no big deal. Japan, Korea and Taiwan already have their ADIZ's (drawn up by the US after the war), and in Japan's case the western and northern boundaries have been enlarged since the '70s to encroach upon Russian and Chinese waters.

All the Chinese want is to buy time – to shore up their economy (due to surpass the US by 2025), modernize their military, quell domestic discord, maintain the CCP's reign, and become the world's next superpower. They already hold $1.28 trillion of US treasury notes and is fast becoming a consumption-based economy – they've got the US by the balls. All they need is to dump the treasuries and the US will become a banana republic.

No need for 'provocation'. Or nuclear shenanigans.
 
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syed putra

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These buggers are just trying to fuel tensions. Like I said before, anyone who thinks that China screwed up big time by announcing the ADIZ obviously knows nuts about geopolitical strategy, and that goes for most Western analysts.

The Chinese are not stupid; they've definitely calculated that the US would want to test the zone, and that's one of the scenarios they would have prepared for, and probably exactly what they wanted.

By testing the no-fly zone, the US (& Japan) has fallen into China's trap:

1. The Chinese can now 'scramble' their jets and fly all over their proclaimed ADIZ, including the airspace over the Diaoyutai, justifying it on the basis that their airspace has been 'invaded' and they need to 'monitor' it aggressively;

2. Japan has been expanding their own ADIZ steadily westwards since America drew it up for them in the '50s. Now the Chinese can simply conduct combined aerial and naval manoeuvres in Japan's ADIZ with impunity, again justifying that 'you fly into my ADIZ, I didn't intercept you; now I fly into yours, you'd better lan lan and keep quiet".

When the entire commercial carrier fraternity eventually chooses to report to Beijing whenever they fly into the zone, it will be a de facto international recognition of Beijing's air boundaries, even if international law doesn't cover ADIZ's.

Win-win-win.​

Why not just pay the mongol hordes to decimate china? They will attack from the rear where it is not protected.
 

chuckyworld

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Japan want to recreate it old empire.

TOKYO —

If you happened to have been around the west exit of Shinjuku Station last week, you might have seen this poster hanging around. In it we can clearly see a photo of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe done up to look like Charlie Chaplin in the film “The Great Dictator.” Around him are the words “Take back Japan” and “Prewar.”

The main body of the poster reads:

National information is unilaterally concealed.
What is kept secret is secret.
Why it’s kept secret is also secret.
It can also remain a secret and be thrown away.
The information will be public 60 years later (after the people involved die).
The people holding the secret themselves, their family and people close to them are all being watched.
Those pursuing the secret will be tossed into prison.
Whistle-blowers are sent to 10 years in prison.
That is the “State Secret Bill.”

Following it is an image of what appears to be Abe standing in a tank arms akimbo with a speech bubble that reads “To a ‘glorious country!’”

The bill which the poster alludes to was put forth recently as part of a long-running effort by the Japanese government to establish some form of confidentiality protection legislation. Various attempts have been made in the past to grant the government more powers in keeping information secret, but each time have failed for violating “the people’s right to know” which is guaranteed in the constitution under “freedom of expression.”

Nevertheless, certain lawmakers have been looking for ways to boost national security and prevent incidents such as a spy in the Self-Defense Force in 1985 or the leaking of a video in 2010 which showed a collision between a Japanese Coast Guard ship and a Chinese fishing boat in the area of the Senkaku Islands. Japan’s poor record of withholding information has led former Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone to once remark, “Japan is spy heaven.”

In this latest attempt at legislation, the Abe government is emphasizing that a certain degree of confidentiality is needed for security. However, beyond domestic issues the Ministry of Defense added that Japan’s “information gathering security measures are not solid” and that this is causing other nations such as the United States to refrain from sharing information with Japan for fear of it being easily leaked.

The state secret bill is currently in discussion and the people of Japan appear divided over the issue with some calling for improved security during increasingly provocative actions around East Asia. Others such as the maker of the poster above see the bill itself as an act of provocation and a way for PM Abe to more easily push through his own hawk agenda.

One thing is for certain, however. The toothbrush moustache isn’t any closer to making a comeback.

Sources: Twitter, MSN Sankei News

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yellowarse

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Why not just pay the mongol hordes to decimate china? They will attack from the rear where it is not protected.

The last time the Mongols invaded China, they became Sinicized and used Chinese as their official language (barbarian tribes only have a rudimentary written script).

Today Outer Mongolia is merely a Russian puppet. And the irony is that Chinese-ruled Inner Mongolia is far wealthier and more populous than Outer Mongolia. One century later and the Mongols would be assimilated into the Han race, like the Manchurians today.
 
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neddy

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Western countries are still in debt. What war are they going to fight? They own China big time

Owe or own China?
You are wrong, the top CCP party cadres are sending their ill-accumulated money out of China into the West, they have no stomach for war.

Go to war, no need to repay debts.
 

steffychun

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Owe or own China?
You are wrong, the top CCP party cadres are sending their ill-accumulated money out of China into the West, they have no stomach for war.

Go to war, no need to repay debts.

China holds US Treasury bonds.

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neddy

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China holds US Treasury bonds.

So, Yuan is pegged to the USD.
Dumping US Treasury bonds will hurt China more.

What the Americans says ring true: Our Currency, but your troubles.

It is all posturing for now, unless some dump jap start the ball rolling again.

Look at PM of japan face, look like he got a talk down.

Biden Backs Ally Japan, But Avoids Roiling China.:biggrin:

Abe went too far, by asking its commercial airlines to ignore the China air zone. Even the US do not go this far.
The question now is what the Chinese will be doing to punish Japan - mess up JAL and ANA routes?
 
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Sideswipe

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Owe or own China?
You are wrong, the top CCP party cadres are sending their ill-accumulated money out of China into the West, they have no stomach for war.

Go to war, no need to repay debts.


it depends on circumstances ? during the 2nd anti-Japanese war. China was still paying its debts to Japanese banks till Pearl Harbor. China only defaulted on its railways loans payments to the Japanese because the Japanese were bombing the railways system and so it was logical to stop that payment.
 

chuckyworld

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China, will most likely say the same thing, but will patrol less over ADIZ, both side need a face saving way out, JAL and ANA most of their passengers making route are from China, ANA was almost kaput, thanks to the China route they rebounce, if ANA still want that lucrative route they will do as ask later,
Unless some goondu jepun kia back itchy again, stir up the shit, then it will really be war.
 
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