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Chitchat Big Leonard and NS policies

eatshitndie

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That's your interpretation scroobal. Canada taxes on worldwide income. If the family resides in Canada the father is taxed on his worldwide income.

You can ask CRA this question before you give advice on taxation in Canada. There is nothing to argue on the basis of a tax rule being smart or stupid. Canada for example pays for free healthcare for TCM's wife and sons. Who funds it? Taxpayers. Do you think it is smart to let TCM pay zero taxes while his family enjoys the privileges of being Canadian residents?

Unlike the whole how to get son deferment and exit permit etc in Singapore which has no public information on any website etc, your word cannot be disputed objectively.

But with Canadian tax laws and rules they have clear guidelines and criteria. Everyone can go read it.

the u.s. have federal tax laws (enforced by irs) where foreign owner (not citizen nor pr) of property either for rental income or investment purposes is subject to tax. 2 ways they can pay tax are explained in the following irs link:

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/int...eceiving-rental-income-from-u-s-real-property

it's very complicated as usual with u.s. tax laws, perhaps similar in some ways to canada.

also in various counties and cities (not federal) foreign property owners who are not citizens or pr's are subject to pay parcel and local property taxes that are similar to residents including citizens and pr's.

this broadbrush notion by some here that non-residents (with properties) in north america need not pay taxes whether it's national, state/provincial or local is ludicrous and totally clueless with reality. if non-resident foreigners no need to pay taxes including property tax, citizens and pr's might as well ask non-resident foreigners to be proxies to buy tons of property in north america and escape or evade paying taxes. but this never exist because non-resident owners have to pay taxes too.
 
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eatshitndie

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If they are based in BC Vancouver then any form of real estate investment would have yield substantial return on their investment.

and there's property tax and in many cases rental income. in u.s. residents can depreciate their income properties and offset rental incomes for tax purposes, but this is not applicable to foreign owners or investors who are non-residents. nobody is exempted from property taxes nor rental income taxes unless they are earned illegally, including foreign owners who are non-residents.
 
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eatshitndie

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Screwedball is expert on everything including Canadian taxes. How dare u defy him?

he's also an expert in lecturing a pimp on how to pimp a prostitute. next he's gonna tell me he knows more about what fruit tree is best to grow in my yard than i do.
 

scroobal

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The world wide income condition has not been interpreted correctly. I will be very surprised if he is indeed liable if he never drew income in Canada and has no prior residency as an individual or no history of paid taxes there. Non-residents with no prior residency status are liable for income generated in Canada only and that is all. Even the US has covers only citizens and resident aliens (green card holders) who no longer reside in the US.

Anyway Canada still benefits from such families in that the "astronaut" sends money to the family over which benefits the country. I am sure Canada would not stifle this income stream with something as myopic and draconian as what has been suggested. It does not make sense economically or logically.





That's your interpretation scroobal. Canada taxes on worldwide income. If the family resides in Canada the father is taxed on his worldwide income.

You can ask CRA this question before you give advice on taxation in Canada. There is nothing to argue on the basis of a tax rule being smart or stupid. Canada for example pays for free healthcare for TCM's wife and sons. Who funds it? Taxpayers. Do you think it is smart to let TCM pay zero taxes while his family enjoys the privileges of being Canadian residents?

Unlike the whole how to get son deferment and exit permit etc in Singapore which has no public information on any website etc, your word cannot be disputed objectively.

But with Canadian tax laws and rules they have clear guidelines and criteria. Everyone can go read it.
 

eatshitndie

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TCM does not hold a Canadian citizenship. He is not obliged to file any taxes in Canada. Like most countries you are required to fulfil a period of residency and he never migrated.

most dumbfuck broadbrush claim of the month. expect twisting and turning from this clueless statement.
 

CoffeeAhSoh

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Will be calling tcm 2mrw :biggrin:
 

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nayr69sg

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The world wide income condition has not been interpreted correctly. I will be very surprised if he is indeed liable if he never drew income in Canada and has no prior residency as an individual or no history of paid taxes there. Non-residents with no prior residency status are liable for income generated in Canada only and that is all. Even the US has covers only citizens and resident aliens (green card holders) who no longer reside in the US.

Anyway Canada still benefits from such families in that the "astronaut" sends money to the family over which benefits the country. I am sure Canada would not stifle this income stream with something as myopic and draconian as what has been suggested. It does not make sense economically or logically.

TCM as he is now ie probably let his Canadian PR lapse may not be liable for Canadian taxes anymore.

But in that 5 years after he became a Canadian PR, he is definitely liable for Canadian taxes given that his entire family (2 sons and wife) excluding him lived in Canada. I am referring to those 5 years. Perhaps he had paid his taxes during those 5 years.
 

eatshitndie

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TCM as he is now ie probably let his Canadian PR lapse may not be liable for Canadian taxes anymore.

But in that 5 years after he became a Canadian PR, he is definitely liable for Canadian taxes given that his entire family (2 sons and wife) excluding him lived in Canada. I am referring to those 5 years. Perhaps he had paid his taxes during those 5 years.

what about property tax in canada? if his name is on title, he may still have to pay tax even though he's no longer a lawful resident. someone else can pay on behalf of him but the property tax document is still being addressed to him. we have many tiong owners of homes who live in china but do not rent out their properties and thus are not subject to rental income tax filing as they buy them for investment and flip them in a few years. but they forget about property tax, and their tax arrears are literally piling up. eventually they may lose their homes if city decides to sue and seek foreclosure on the properties for years of non tax payment. in sg although property tax is low (thanks to pap) non-resident foreign buyers still have to pay. no such thing as not paying property tax just because one is a non-resident foreign owner.
 

Papsmearer

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what about property tax in canada? if his name is on title, he may still have to pay tax even though he's no longer a lawful resident. someone else can pay on behalf of him but the property tax document is still being addressed to him. we have many tiong owners of homes who live in china but do not rent out their properties and thus are not subject to rental income tax filing as they buy them for investment and flip them in a few years. but they forget about property tax, and their tax arrears are literally piling up. eventually they may lose their homes if city decides to sue and seek foreclosure on the properties for years of non tax payment. in sg although property tax is low (thanks to pap) non-resident foreign buyers still have to pay. no such thing as not paying property tax just because one is a non-resident foreign owner.

Aiyah, let it go lah. Screwedball say he never pay means he never pay lah. Screwedball is always right and knows everything. If you keep this up, you will be accused by him of fellating somebody in this forum.
 

eatshitndie

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Aiyah, let it go lah. Screwedball say he never pay means he never pay lah. Screwedball is always right and knows everything. If you keep this up, you will be accused by him of fellating somebody in this forum.

gave him a lifeline to save himself but instead he used it as rope to hang himself. like that, how to hint and help?
 
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SgGoneWrong

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Screwedball is an expert on everything mah, even Canadian taxes. Don't you know this?

Jw5 must have gotten the identity of screwbye wrong. Screwbye highly possible is ah neh. Chinks can rarely twist and turn like a triple head snake and tell stories as natural as breathing air.
 

tyudm

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No such "raids" took place on the father's house, whether by "Mindef Provost", a "raiding party" or anyone else. Here's how and where the TPX carelessly slipped up in his bullshit story about the "raids" and his "checks" about these supposed "raids" which, according to him, was carried out a "few times".

The SAF Military Policemen (MP) are empowered under Sect 163 (1) & (2) of the SAF Act to search a place that a person they are seeking to arrest is in or they believe to be in. However, this arrest and search powers are restricted only to those subject to the SAF Act. The exceptions for those not subject to the SAF Act are when they are in a place controlled by the SAF (eg: Bangla workers in SAF camps), those who obstruct any military ops, training, etc.

The fat guy had not enlisted in NS before returning. As a pre-enlistee he is not subjected to the SAF Act since he is not yet in the service of the SAF. As such, the SAF Military Police Command (SAFMPC), previously known as SAF Provost Unit (SAFPU), have zero powers to "raid" his house, father's house, etc to search for or to arrest him. This is since these search and arrest powers can be exercised only on those who are subjected to the SAF Act.

The fat guy committed an offence under the Enlistment Act (not SAF Act) by not enlisting. Some enlistment officers from CMPB would have been sent to the address they have in their records to enquire (not search his house) on his whereabouts and the reasons for his failure to enlist. A simple cross check with ICA (Immigration & Checkpoint Authority) would confirm that he had left Singapore. (MINDEF's practice is similar to that of the Ministry of Education who send MOE officers to enquire on the whereabouts and reasons if a child has failed to enrol in school.)

To summarise, no "raids" took place as claimed by the resident TPX. The only "raids" that took place were the bullshit ones that he pulled out of his ass. The only "checks" he carried out to "confirm" the "raids" on the father's house that supposedly took place a "few times", a "number of times" was with the telescopic mirror he placed against his asshole.

As the seasoned forummers and I have said, this guy is a hardcore and incorrigible TPX bullshitter.

One thing is certain. He is trying to make the PAP look bad and the 70 percent should thank you for your honourable service.
 

scroobal

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You are probably right about his PR lapsing but I doubt he would be liable if he had not migrated himself unless there is income drawn in Canada with or without his family residing there. Those conditions particularly primary ties etc are meant for those who leave Canada after establishing some roots on the part of the individual.

By the way, I am aware of astronauts being granted extensions on the PR eligibility of their families (spouse and children) having made the move. These are granted after appeals are made etc. Too liberal on the part of the western world.

TCM as he is now ie probably let his Canadian PR lapse may not be liable for Canadian taxes anymore.

But in that 5 years after he became a Canadian PR, he is definitely liable for Canadian taxes given that his entire family (2 sons and wife) excluding him lived in Canada. I am referring to those 5 years. Perhaps he had paid his taxes during those 5 years.
 

scroobal

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At of the day, despite lengthy narratives, good grammar, highlighting supposed key points we can conclude that raids are conducted despite citing legislation and interpreting otherwise.

Which government in the world legislates and does not enforce. And Singapore is notorious for enforcement.

There is at one least individual here who is completely bamboozled when structure of English is followed, laws are cited and underlined and more the narrative, the assumption is that there is substance.
 

Papsmearer

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Jw5 must have gotten the identity of screwbye wrong. Screwbye highly possible is ah neh. Chinks can rarely twist and turn like a triple head snake and tell stories as natural as breathing air.

then he should change his nick to Bengali screwbackside.
 

Papsmearer

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There is at one least individual here who is completely bamboozled when structure of English is followed, laws are cited and underlined and more the narrative, the assumption is that there is substance.

You really shouldn't refer to yourself in this way, jackass.
 

PTADER

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Aiyah, let it go lah. Screwedball say he never pay means he never pay lah. Screwedball is always right and knows everything. If you keep this up, you will be accused by him of fellating somebody in this forum.

He has a massive repository of knowledge, all located in his inner bowels and delicate rectum. His large intestine forms the corridor of power he walks in, from where he paces up and down, carries out "checks" with the leaders around the world, captains of industries and with his numerous and imaginary "contacts".

He carefully pulls out all this knowledge through his quivering asshole, twist, turn and conflate them and lo and behold, he is always armed and ready with a bullshit story or response to con the gullible newbies and readers.

Be it about his utter bullshit about TCM's house being "raided" when it was not, to the Canadian tax system to his tales about "Old man", this TPX extraordinaire is never coy about displaying his god-gifted talent in bullshitting. One of my personal favourites is his impressive "Hero Canadian Major" fairly tale. It continues to bring tears of joy whenever I read it. It can be found in Msg 110 & 111 in this thread for those who want to learn the fine art of bullshitting from this expert.
 

PTADER

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At of the day, despite lengthy narratives, good grammar, highlighting supposed key points we can conclude that raids are conducted despite citing legislation and interpreting otherwise.

Which government in the world legislates and does not enforce. And Singapore is notorious for enforcement.

There is at one least individual here who is completely bamboozled when structure of English is followed, laws are cited and underlined and more the narrative, the assumption is that there is substance.

Face it, you got caught yet again. This is not the first time you got caught bullshitting away.

The issue was not about "raids" being conducted. It was about your TPX bullshit tale of TCM's property being "raided"when it was not. They are two different issues. Hence, there is no need to "conclude that raids are conducted" when this is an established and well-known fact to anyone who has served NS.

You have desperately sought, and still try to continue to conflate an established and well-known fact about searches ("raids") being conducted to your dishonest and bullshit claim that TCM's apartment was "raided" a "few times", and that you have "checked" that those "raids" on TCM's house did indeed take place when the simple truth is that no such "raids" was conducted on TCM's property.

All these TPX and bullshit stories to show that you know "everything" and have "contacts' with anyone and everyone??? Are you suffering from some sort of serious inferiority complex disorder and so bereft of self-confidence in your life that you have to constantly seek refuge and "status" in this forum? Are you so lacking in self-awareness that you are unable to, or have yet to realise that apart from your own clones, newbies and new readers, your "reputation" in this forum is practically zero and non-existent?

As I said: Grow up.
 

scroobal

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And you said no raids are done. Seriously, you expect people who do not present themselves for NS can walk around scot free and those who are prosecuted are those who voluntarily gave themselves up after receiving some official letter.

And there are idiots that actually follow this line of reasoning.

Face it, you got caught yet again. This is not the first time you got caught bullshitting away.

The issue was not about "raids" being conducted. It was about your TPX bullshit tale of TCM's property being "raided"when it was not. They are two different issues. Hence, there is no need to "conclude that raids are conducted" when this is an established and well-known fact to anyone who has served NS.

You have desperately sought, and still try to continue to conflate an established and well-known fact about searches ("raids") being conducted to your dishonest and bullshit claim that TCM's apartment was "raided" a "few times", and that you have "checked" that those "raids" on TCM's house did indeed take place when the simple truth is that no such "raids" was conducted on TCM's property.

All these TPX and bullshit stories to show that you know "everything" and have "contacts' with anyone and everyone??? Are you suffering from some sort of serious inferiority complex disorder and so bereft of self-confidence in your life that you have to constantly seek refuge and "status" in this forum? Are you so lacking in self-awareness that you are unable to, or have yet to realise that apart from your own clones, newbies and new readers, your "reputation" in this forum is practically zero and non-existent?

As I said: Grow up.
 
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