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Another sex case: River Valley Principal

songsongjurong

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Absolutely!!!

Saudi raghead millionaire cleared of raping teenager after telling court he may have accidentally penetrated 18-year-old when he tripped and fell on her.





Unlike Chinese people, judges worldwide attest to the honesty of Arabs. Nobody will believe a chinaman.
 

Semaj2357

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The lady vendor is quite pretty for her age.
I'm sure she was a stunner when young. Koh was an athletic guy when young. I believe a combined school basketball player with Maris Stella.
The episode could have been resolved internally within the boundaries of MOE. CPIB didn't have to get involved. He must have made a few enemies on his way to becoming Principal of several top schools, including Chinese High and River Valley. He didn't pocket any money, and he could have given the contracts to anyone. As long as MOE didn't insist tender was necessary, and vendor did a good job at a reasonable price, really there is nothing wrong.
Clearly someone was out to embarrass him, his family and relatives.
agree absolutely...even if a tender was necessary, there would be many temptation/s in the form of kick/fuck backs as there are lots of it - outbound tours, physical and educational enrichment vendors etc and for him, the whole trouble was the hole trouble.
 

halsey02

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agree absolutely...even if a tender was necessary, there would be many temptation/s in the form of kick/fuck backs as there are lots of it - outbound tours, physical and educational enrichment vendors etc and for him, the whole trouble was the hole trouble.

Don't forget...the "palm" incident....there were outbound tours, inbound tours...& "mangoes" on the bounce....we have a lot of 'holey' people of both sexes....the wHOLE trouble is a HOLEy trouble....can we say.."human nature"? ha ha ha ha :biggrin:

But, this "lau kway bu" is a stunner....former basket ball player..must have done a 'slam dunk'....he can tell the judge, he "accidentally dropped the...." whatever " IN"....ha ha ha ha
 

Onitsuka

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Don't forget...the "palm" incident....there were outbound tours, inbound tours...& "mangoes" on the bounce....we have a lot of 'holey' people of both sexes....the wHOLE trouble is a HOLEy trouble....can we say.."human nature"? ha ha ha ha :biggrin:

But, this "lau kway bu" is a stunner....former basket ball player..must have done a 'slam dunk'....he can tell the judge, he "accidentally dropped the...." whatever " IN"....ha ha ha ha

Did he give contracts to the female vendor in exchange for sex ? Apparently it wasn't something that required a formal tender. He could have given it to anyone, just like RC giving jobs to grassroots leaders.

If the female vendor carried out the obligations under the contracts to the satisfaction of the contracting parties, and that prices agreed were fair and reasonable, it didn't matter if they had had sex, as long as sex was not used as a means to win the contract.

We should not dabble into the personal life, especially sex life, of a civil servant. The crux of the matter is he did not pocket the money. He could have been dealt with internally. There is absolutely no need to shame him in public.
 

halsey02

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Did he give contracts to the female vendor in exchange for sex ? Apparently it wasn't something that required a formal tender. He could have given it to anyone, just like RC giving jobs to grassroots leaders.

If the female vendor carried out the obligations under the contracts to the satisfaction of the contracting parties, and that prices agreed were fair and reasonable, it didn't matter if they had had sex, as long as sex was not used as a means to win the contract.

We should not dabble into the personal life, especially sex life, of a civil servant. The crux of the matter is he did not pocket the money. He could have been dealt with internally. There is absolutely no need to shame him in public.

There was SATISFACTION all right!... the point is not what he does or doesn't after hours or privately, the point is he was supposed to be 'clean', who he does, did or done with a person or entity that contracts had been awarded, implicate him to be 'dirty'.
 

johnny333

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When LKY was caught for getting "special" discounts for some condos, he explained it as getting an extra egg. I'm sure most Sporeans can understand that, after all it's just human nature if you are a corrupt, to take advantage of the system.

I am not saying LKY did anything wrong as he was never jailed, punished .... , we all know that LKY was a highly respected statesman:wink:
 

steffychun

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When LKY was caught for getting "special" discounts for some condos, he explained it as getting an extra egg. I'm sure most Sporeans can understand that, after all it's just human nature if you are a corrupt, to take advantage of the system.

I am not saying LKY did anything wrong as he was never jailed, punished .... , we all know that LKY was a highly respected statesman:wink:

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Onitsuka

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There was SATISFACTION all right!... the point is not what he does or doesn't after hours or privately, the point is he was supposed to be 'clean', who he does, did or done with a person or entity that contracts had been awarded, implicate him to be 'dirty'.

I would say the point is whether he ran foul of the law, whether he did something illegal. What can be done under the law and what cannot have all been spelt out clearly.

What is clean and what is not is very subjective. The charges have yet to be proven, and we should not rush to condemn him. The relationship between a principal and a vendor might have begun on arm's length, but the law does not dictate that you cannot fall in love with your vendor at a later stage, and after falling in love, having sex.

So why subject him to such public shaming when nothing is proven yet?
 

bigboss

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This seems to be a “从轻发落" (leniently dealt with) case.

The former school principal is only charged with giving false info over affair. How come he was not charged for corruption?

He obtained sexual gratification from the woman who has business dealings with the school where he was at the helm? Is this more serious than giving false info?

Is he one of the kah kee nang (自己人)?

This case should have been probed by CPIB when first information was received. A school vendor having an affair with a school principal is surely linked to gratification. As the Ministry is run by idiots, this culprit was able to continue having his fun and let his woman collect more contracts.
 

bigboss

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...The episode could have been resolved internally within the boundaries of MOE. CPIB didn't have to get involved. He must have made a few enemies on his way to becoming Principal of several top schools, including Chinese High and River Valley. He didn't pocket any money, and he could have given the contracts to anyone. As long as MOE didn't insist tender was necessary, and vendor did a good job at a reasonable price, really there is nothing wrong...

hahaha, close down CPIB if such complaint of suspected corruption can be resolved internally. These idiots in the Ministry are not trained to investigate suspected corruption cases. LKY was proud of the role played by CPIB and he would not have tolerated civil servants being suspected of using their official positions for personal gain, whether for money or sex.

Would this woman vendor start an affair with someone who could not give her contracts? Would this principal give the contracts to a woman who could not provide him with sex? This is where gratification is defined. So, nothing wrong?
 

bigboss

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I would say the point is whether he ran foul of the law, whether he did something illegal. What can be done under the law and what cannot have all been spelt out clearly.

What is clean and what is not is very subjective. The charges have yet to be proven, and we should not rush to condemn him. The relationship between a principal and a vendor might have begun on arm's length, but the law does not dictate that you cannot fall in love with your vendor at a later stage, and after falling in love, having sex.

So why subject him to such public shaming when nothing is proven yet?

Distinction must be made that he being a principal of the school with final authority to approve the contracts for his lover is already tainted.

If he did not have final authority to approve the contracts, and did not have a role in helping his lover to frame the contract, and he fell in love with her, the matter is one of indiscretion and the MOE might issue a warning or subject him to disciplinary action to demote him. As the woman stood to gain financially from winning the contracts, and whether he stood to benefit directly or indirectly from her financial gain, it is open to conjecture but it is likely that his lover will reward him materially or otherwise.

If the judge did not regard this case as one involving gratification, the CJ ought to put this judge on a desk job.
 

halsey02

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I would say the point is whether he ran foul of the law, whether he did something illegal. What can be done under the law and what cannot have all been spelt out clearly.

What is clean and what is not is very subjective. The charges have yet to be proven, and we should not rush to condemn him. The relationship between a principal and a vendor might have begun on arm's length, but the law does not dictate that you cannot fall in love with your vendor at a later stage, and after falling in love, having sex.

So why subject him to such public shaming when nothing is proven yet?

There was no monetary gain as in " extra egg" or " taking the top off the cream in the cake", the point in which he was brought to court was he was suppose to uphold the integrity of the system, he admitted to having sex with her & vice versa. Whether the sex act involve licking or sucking only, was immaterial....he lied & corrupted the system.

Shaming him in public, someone, "blew the whistle"....& it may have been, he was already a 'serial bigamist', before the 'whistle was blown'...or the woman too...for one hand, does not clap...must have done this, many times. Someone became 'red eye'...

So, he is now shamed in public for lying that, he had no relationship with the woman & corrupted the system even, there were no proof of monetary gain.

They are supposedly to be ' as white as snow'....:rolleyes:
 

Semaj2357

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.....Would this woman vendor start an affair with someone who could not give her contracts? Would this principal give the contracts to a woman who could not provide him with sex? This is where gratification is defined. So, nothing wrong?
therein lies the crux (and crotch) of the matter and it's a cuntflicting interest on his part.....
 

mojito

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Did he give contracts to the female vendor in exchange for sex ? Apparently it wasn't something that required a formal tender. He could have given it to anyone, just like RC giving jobs to grassroots leaders.

If the female vendor carried out the obligations under the contracts to the satisfaction of the contracting parties, and that prices agreed were fair and reasonable, it didn't matter if they had had sex, as long as sex was not used as a means to win the contract.

We should not dabble into the personal life, especially sex life, of a civil servant. The crux of the matter is he did not pocket the money. He could have been dealt with internally. There is absolutely no need to shame him in public.

Rubbish. Corrupt serpants should be drawn and quartered. Are you an evil serpant?
 
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