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All those who said obama is for change, watch this documentary.

scroobal

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Yes, it has very little to do with Obama. They just needed a prominent character to build around this story. I recall a similar thing but in print was done on Blair - also on the Bilderberg thing. But the British have little time for it and they don't have the bible belt equivalent to pay for this.

<style></style>http://www.infowars.com/review-the-obama-deception-by-alex-jones/

"The title of this film is slightly misleading because it is not a film about Obama per se, his questionable character, or even the legitimacy of his presidency in light of the questions surrounding the true origin of his birth.
 

scroobal

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Take it easy bro, everyone slips up every now and then.

The documentary clearly is not about Obama. Not everyone who disagrees with you lives in a HDB flat or in Singapore or less qualified than you. Thats a head in the sand approach in arguing your case. Never judge a book by its cover and in this case, never judge a documentary by its title. The title is to get you to view the documentary.

You got caught out and made worse by suggesting that people might be ignorant passing comments about Obama without looking at this documentary first. Just look at your first post and the comment about being ignorant. Its there for all to see.

You obviously have never heard about the Bilderberg Group and therefore not aware of the conspiracy theories surrounding it.

Try engaging in a meaningful way. Throwing lines such as "HDB Pigeon" holes when you can't even make the cut for NUS looks rather silly.



I guess the one that replied to me is really dumber than I imagined. Well that someone should just stick to name dropping and trying to convince people about conspiracy theorists and bible belt similarities.

For one that is probably sitting in his HDB pidgeon hole, talking about travelling down south and to the mid west of the US, talking as if he knows the US like the back of his palm is really ridiculous, good for a good chuckle no less.

Yet this very same person, misses the point of the post which is openly stated in the heading.

For good reason, I reproduce the heading here : All those who said Obama is for change, watch this documentary.

The point is, that thus far, many of the campaign promises Obama has made is still either on the back burner or not even on the stove.

Still someone here chooses to make comparisons with TV evangelism, not knowing that Alex Jones has said ( at the half way point of the documentary) to buy or download the documentary and make copies for everyone. Yet someone passes judgment after the first ten minutes by his own admission. There is no need to ask if that someone even watched the full video, for the answer is obvious.

Nevermind the fact that proceeds from this goes into making more documentaries like these and for the 911 first response emergency workers and bystanders (some 50,000 at last count) who have now all come down with WTC Respiratory Disease which the US govt and NY state refuses to accept as a legitimate side effect of breathing the dust and other particles as the buildings disintergrated, hence, refusing them the best medical care despite hailing them as heroes only 8 years ago.

I guess it's ok, some people will always miss the point but prefer to cloud the matter up with bible belt stories.

See, exactly what my post says, watch the documenatry before posting, lest you want to come across ignorant.

Case in point. Sheesh!

Cheers,

MM
 
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scroobal

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In the US, conspiracy theories are abound and the level of paranoia is quite palpable. There is a huge market for it and thus the emergence of radio shock jocks and well funded groups that follow their favourite paranoia. There are private TV channels that people subscribe to for their daily dosage.

If you believe what the conspiracy theorists say, then you have to believe that the world is full of peace loving people, there are no NATURAL calamities, no NATURAL diseases, etc. Everything is created by a small, evil group of people. An extraordinary group I must say, because while an average person cannot keep a secret for a reasonable period of time, this small group managed to keep a secret pact for centuries!!!

Yet, they are quite inefficient. Despite their abilities to start wars, control governments, create AIDS, SARS, bird or whatever animal flu, etc, they are still a long way off from world domination.


An excellent observation. Well said.

If they really have those abilities, a reasonable person would expect them to achieve their goals a long time ago.

Sometimes I wonder who is the ignorant one.
 

scroobal

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Documentary has nothing to do with Obama. Just spend sometime going thru it. If Chee Soon Juan became President of US, this documentary would still be made with Obama's name replaced with Chee.

This type of conspiracy theory documentaries are quite common in the US but seldom or never seen elsewhere. If you worked or studied there, you will recognise it for what it is.

The British however use the same themes as parody for their comedy skits.

I don't know much about global secret societies though, given the angmo's congenital penchant for sexual perversion, greed & tribalism, I won't be surprised. Societies like that, greatly assist in their collective control of other races & nations.

One thing for sure though is that Obama is looking more and more like the racial figurehead that the angmo establishment cooked up. It is certainly in response to the fact that just about every non-angmo nation has had it with these conniving Hell bound neanderthals and the mess they've created in the world in their relentless exploitation for profits and perversions.

Look at Obama's election - it has all the trappings of a Hollywood blockbuster.
 

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This type of conspiracy theory documentaries are quite common in the US but seldom or never seen elsewhere.


<style></style>Really?..than explain how Leegime operates under the veneer of a democratically elected governance for the past 40 odd years.Show me a country/nation in the civilized world where a single party gets 'elected democratically'' again and again for the past 40 years...your call.
 

scroobal

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No need for conspiracy theory in Singapore. Its a fact that old man has resided in the Istana for 50 years, changed democratic election convention to retain his power and the autocratic state. No veneer either. If you claimed that Singapore is a democratic state or even masquarades as one, people will laugh -no need to make a documentary.

<style></style>Really?..than explain how Leegime operates under the veneer of a democratically elected governance for the past 40 odd years.Show me a country/nation in the civilized world where a single party gets 'elected democratically'' again and again for the past 40 years...your call.
 

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<style></style>The Question- Are there no conspiracy in politics?

If so ,will someone please explain why PAP in its formative years showed the face of a socialist to the voters whereas declassified documents in London now reveals otherwise.


 

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Good insight, Nice Gook.
But do look at who's running the world now.
LKY is a tin-pot tyrant by contrast.

Angmos have an innate way of making debauchery, tyranny & oppression look benign and even beneficial.

They are insidious. That makes them far more malevolent than anything human history has ever seen. That's why silent diseases are usually far deadlier than those with full of symptoms.

In spite of the "squabbles" amongst the angmo nations, history will show you that they will band together to go on mass rapin', killin' & stealin' at a drop of hat.

Maybe because they have the Jews behind them. The Jews are the smartest people in the world who, since the recent centuries, have already integrated with these white pigs anyway. Most of them are the heads of commerce and the political in the West, while very few similarly prominent positions of such are held by real whites, much less blacks, Asians, Hispanics and redskins.

But we believe the Chinese in the East would prove a formidable force for them to contend with ultimately. If the Jews were an extinct people then dealing with the West with their inferior civilizations is not even a problem to be considered at all for the Chinese.

Furthermore, let us remember that while Jews were driven out of America and Europe, being able to control their economies, politicians etc before the eventual integration with the Gentiles they were ironically the ones who have NEVER been persecuted or driven away in China. Yes, China is the ONLY country in the world who has never discriminated against them. Also because these marauders failed to dominate the country's commerce, schools, and officials much less compromise and buy up the monarchs of the succeeding Dynasties unlike the tremendous success they enjoyed in the Western countries.

Unlike these useless Caucasians, the Chinese are too smart for them. Many of the Jew settlers who remained in China understandably say they do not consider China as their home and they look towards Jerusalem and some other place instead. Hahahaha what a joke. What ingrates and bitter losers they are :smile::smile::smile:

When Jews settle in another land, to them it seems that it is not enough that the leaders of that land would grant them a place to stay. They don't want just that. A plain and simple living and life is not good enough. No. To their extremely progressive logic the leaders must let them grow to dominate everything - economics, politics, religion, academia etc and them as well even, and eventually call the land theirs and the future leadership to be run either by their own or more likely, the chosen natives puppeted by them that serve their special interests before that of the people of that same land.
 

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Maybe because they have the Jews behind them. The Jews are the smartest people in the world who, since the recent centuries, have already integrated with these white pigs anyway. Most of them are the heads of commerce and the political in the West, while very few similarly prominent positions of such are held by real whites, much less blacks, Asians, Hispanics and redskins.


Yes, that sounds plausible. However, you must realise that the jews got into that position only because the angmos appear beholden to them due to religion (jesus is a jew). From the get-go, if you read up on the history of angmo "civilisation" preceding christian influence, you'll see that they're bloodthirsty & a conniving race with a predilection for cannibalism & paedophilia woven into their cultural fabric.

I view jews as an extension of angmo, which they're, really. That said, yes, I do notice jews appear to be overrepresented in seats of power in most angmo countries for such a miniscule angmo-ethnic group.

They never really found a foothold in East Asian countries because of their inability to physically "blend" into the populace at large, like they do in angmo countries, without some serious intermingling to the point that "jewishness" disappears. But then, word has it that Mr. Li Ka Shing is a chinese-(angmo jew) hybrid though.

Still I think they & the angmos do control a huge swath of "free" Asian nations through corporate control & propping up of oppressive "democratically-elected" governments.


Do you REALLY think LKY Government will last as long as it did, without significant kowtowing & selling out to the angmo powers at the expense of asians? LKY'd have been "regime-changed" long ago.

This massive FTrash import drive, is by and large, the SG Gov's futile attempt to coax & cajole the jap & angmo companies to keep their factories in SG & help maintain the taxbase for the SG Gov. SG citizens & their welfare are not even in the equation, it seems.
 

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Do you REALLY think LKY Government will last as long as it did, without significant kowtowing & selling out to the angmo powers at the expense of asians? LKY'd have been "regime-changed" long ago.

Well said.Without the support of the West LKY would have long gone.

Of course PAP would pull out a stunt every now and that seems to put the West in its place for the sake of sinkies public consumption....Wayang !
 

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Rather quite aren't you. I hope this is a lesson that you will learn from.

You made a claim about the documentary and was arrogant enough to state that one will be ignorant without watching it.

One forummer asked if the Alex Jones, the person behind the documentary is credible without making any other remark. You responded by calling him an "assinine".

When I replied that it is essentially in the conspiracy theory genre, putting forth my views why, you replied with a series of derogatory statements and assumptions none of which is about the documentary. As someone claiming to be a trained lawyer, is that the way to argue a case.

When confronted by a strong reply and realising you confronted the wrong beast and finding no foundation or premise to defend or even launch a reply, you retreat and hide.

Just look at your replies. It all there for forummers to see. Why did you assume that people who don't share your views are assinine, dumb, live in HDB pigeon holes etc. What has any of it got to do with your claim about the documentary. Why did you in your first post think that people are generally ignorant until you unveiled this documentary.

You have yet to justify why this is indeed a documentary on Obama and has nothing to do with the counterclaim that it falls into conspiracy theory genre. Be brave enough to state your case and if it helps you, you can assume that I am dumb, a pedophile, penniless, dishonest, deceitful and "assinine".

The fact is people are here to see why you made the claim about the documentary and has nothing to with what I am. You can also rightfully assume every forummer here is ignorant, so do enlighten us.

ps. I suspect there will 2 possible outcomes from this incident. (1) You will be lot more humble and less presumptious with your fellow forummers including those that reside in HDB flats or (2) bury your head in the sand and disappear for a while.

I guess the one that replied to me is really dumber than I imagined.

MM
 

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Actually, if you know the true genetic makeup of the Jews, they do not have blond eyes, golden hair and white skin. They are actually Asiatic in origin, with black hair, brown eyes and dark skin. So to say they have a problem bending with Asians, is not totally true. There are some claims that most of them are not even real Jews (Ashkenazi Jews as opposed to real ones they discriminated lower than the Christians in Israel called the Sephardic Jews - Jack Bernstein, an American Jew, reveals these in his book "The Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel") but are in fact, Kazhars and Turks.

Those Western Jews of course do not look like the real description because as mentioned to you they have integrated with the whites.

Well, the whites are from the Aryan race, whose masters are from India, so we should come to expect the same, as you people call "chao kuan" attitude as you all have so known of most Indians local and foreign. Lying, conniving snakes in general (not all are like that though). So I'm not surprised. And you can see that Indians and Mat Sallehs suck up to each other so comfortably especially the former when they walk together.

The Indians are VERY HAPPY. They are so proud they are with Caucasians, and even the Indian-Canadian comedian Russell Peters joked that "Indians (should "understand" that they) are also Asians".


Yes, that sounds plausible. However, you must realise that the jews got into that position only because the angmos appear beholden to them due to religion (jesus is a jew). From the get-go, if you read up on the history of angmo "civilisation" preceding christian influence, you'll see that they're bloodthirsty & a conniving race with a predilection for cannibalism & paedophilia woven into their cultural fabric.

I view jews as an extension of angmo, which they're, really. That said, yes, I do notice jews appear to be overrepresented in seats of power in most angmo countries for such a miniscule angmo-ethnic group.

They never really found a foothold in East Asian countries because of their inability to physically "blend" into the populace at large, like they do in angmo countries, without some serious intermingling to the point that "jewishness" disappears. But then, word has it that Mr. Li Ka Shing is a chinese-(angmo jew) hybrid though.
 

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I don't believe in Li Ka-Shing's genetical makeup as a Chinese-Jew hybrid. I believe he is a pure Chinese.

On the Western control thing, maybe. But at least Asians have great leaders who still remember that they are Asians. Lee Kuan Yew with his Asian Values, Dr. Mahathir Mohamad with his Look East Policy, and Mao Zedong who firmly believed that China's problems could be studied and resolved only within China. All three men refused overdependence or total reliance on Western ideas, and shaped their respective countries in their own way, and are praised for the work they did.

On the reasons for the Foreign Talent thing, you bring up a possible explanation in relation to the fledgling manufacturing sector, but on sacrificing the welfare of the citizens I am not very sure. What would you as part of the citizenry suggest instead? Manufacturing has always been Singapore's principal focus, and when unexpected things like that happen, they tried to address the problems that have emerged.


But then, word has it that Mr. Li Ka Shing is a chinese-(angmo jew) hybrid though.

Still I think they & the angmos do control a huge swath of "free" Asian nations through corporate control & propping up of oppressive "democratically-elected" governments.


Do you REALLY think LKY Government will last as long as it did, without significant kowtowing & selling out to the angmo powers at the expense of asians? LKY'd have been "regime-changed" long ago.

This massive FTrash import drive, is by and large, the SG Gov's futile attempt to coax & cajole the jap & angmo companies to keep their factories in SG & help maintain the taxbase for the SG Gov. SG citizens & their welfare are not even in the equation, it seems.
 
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In doing business the Chinese are often said to be second only to the Jews. From what has been seen so far, there is validity in this statement whether you are comfortable with it or not.

In the ultimate struggle for world domination, it will only be between the Chinese and the Jews, from two of the oldest civilizatins in the world, and no one else. All the other races may participate and take sides, but the roles they play would mostly be that of a secondary nature ie subordinates.

The Chinese are not as stupid as you think.
 

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Actually, if you know the true genetic makeup of the Jews, they do not have blond eyes, golden hair and white skin. They are actually Asiatic in origin, with black hair, brown eyes and dark skin. So to say they have a problem bending with Asians, is not totally true.

Realise that when we mention jews today, we're not merely talking abt a religion (judaism) but an offshoot angmo (caucasian) group - which, is indeed the Khazars.

The Ashkenazi (angmo-like) jews who descended from the Khazars, are the de facto "jewish" rulers.



Well, the whites are from the Aryan race, whose masters are from India, so we should come to expect the same, as you people call "chao kuan" attitude as you all have so known of most Indians local and foreign. Lying, conniving snakes in general (not all are like that though). So I'm not surprised. And you can see that Indians and Mat Sallehs suck up to each other so comfortably especially the former when they walk together.

No the Indians are an angmo mongrelised Indo-Australoid race. It is the view of many that Alexander the Great did so much rapin' & f-ckin' when he entered India that it forever tainted the kelings' bloodlines, giving rise to the caste system which views increasing degrees of mongrelisation by their angmo conquerors. (e.g. fair skin, angmo-features, etc..) as "high born". True kelings resemble very much like the primitive Australian Aborigines.

I don't believe in Li Ka-Shing's genetical makeup as a Chinese-Jew hybrid. I believe he is a pure Chinese.


I remember reading somewhere that his great-grandfather was an angmo jew.



On the Western control thing, maybe. But at least Asians have great leaders who still remember that they are Asians. Lee Kuan Yew with his Asian Values,

Bullsh-t. LKY Gov is a running dog for Western interests & has always been. He now attempts to straddle both boats (the west & east) given the rise of the China. One thing for sure, he's a survivor. I mean, this is the fart who actually negotiated his way into prosperity during the ww2 jap occupation.

LKY & policies've consistently sold out Singas in the face of profits. It's not unlike a pimp who sells his slaves & prostitutes to the lowest bidder just to fill his own pockets.


What would you as part of the citizenry suggest instead? Manufacturing has always been Singapore's principal focus, and when unexpected things like that happen, they tried to address the problems that have emerged.

I can tell you one thing - Singaporeans ARE a very resilient, resourceful & enterprising bunch if given the right opportunity. This comes from my years of observation of my migrating countrymen. They excel in academic & business pursuits when the environment is even marginally conducive. Not many of their achievements're sung or celebrated by our 154th or even foreign press. But I'm truly gratified & proud by what I've seen. The problem that stifles Singa development is LKY & his PAP policies. It's important one clearly delineate between Singapore & LKY/PAP - LKY/PAP is not Singapore. Without the people, Singapore wouldn't be what it was in its heyday with/without "good" governance by LKY. To think otherwise is genuine hubris.

With no social safety net & the high costs of living, who in their rights mind would entertain "enterprising" endeavours or think outside the square when bankruptcy's literally a death-sentence? LKY & crowd can "encourage" the populace all they want in this aspect, but until failures can be forgiven & overlooked, nothing'll ever change the national psyche of kiasuism fostered under the LKY Gov regime.

In doing business the Chinese are often said to be second only to the Jews. From what has been seen so far, there is validity in this statement whether you are comfortable with it or not.

No arguments here. The institutions of power are run by angmos who're pro-jews & the jews've a common religion holding them together - super "guan xi".


The Chinese are not as stupid as you think.

I never held such views.
However, we've a real uphill battle because the angmos've built up a very strong cult of personality (west is best) through colonialism & Hollywood.
 
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gayboy , so what if he is anti-christ ? i know you are hoping that your cults will rule the nation .
 
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Dear Scroobal

Can't trust Obama, Can't trust Bush, can't trust right wing, can't trust left wing, Thank god america's so big and forgiving and no one thinks u are a nutcase if u prepare for the end of the world.



Locke
 

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Realise that when we mention jews today, we're not merely talking abt a religion (judaism) but an offshoot angmo (caucasian) group - which, is indeed the Khazars.

Realize that I already know that. Notice I don't even mention "Judaism". Only you did.

I am talking about the race and the types of Jews. Surely you who are actually born with a brain cannot falter in comprehending this?

And your reply especially this one, is merely repeating what I told you and everyone here.
 

scroobal

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Agree, organised chaos but huge leeway for everyone to try anything. Its explains why it leads the way in terms of innovation and progress.

With that comes the nutcases and the attendent suckers. Still heaps better than Singapore.

Dear Scroobal

Can't trust Obama, Can't trust Bush, can't trust right wing, can't trust left wing, Thank god america's so big and forgiving and no one thinks u are a nutcase if u prepare for the end of the world.



Locke
 

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Realise that when we mention jews today, we're not merely talking abt a religion (judaism) but an offshoot angmo (caucasian) group - which, is indeed the Khazars.

Realize that I already know that. Notice I don't even mention "Judaism". Only you did.

I am talking about the race and the types of Jews. Surely you who are actually born with a brain cannot falter in comprehending this?

...and you've been either misquoting me & adding irrelevant, extraneous details abt jews - who cares whether they're khazars or your turds? The "angmo-like" jews predominate. Period. Then again, you're starting to sound a jew loving chee hong for your troubles.


And your reply especially this one, is merely repeating what I told you and everyone here.

Oh, write a book already (if your clearly limited literacy & intellect allow). At least you won't look retarded when you constantly go off on a tangent & off topic. :oIo:
 
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