Xinjiang separated from rest of china by a vast desert. Will be easy to invade this area from the west.. Its outside fighter jet range. And linked to china via highwsy and railway which can be destroyed.
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Ah Tiongs dealing with Muslims. Ah tiong land Bagus
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all your bogus assertions are preceded by 'well known' or some such
utter hogwash is what they are called
Islam has the greatest reputation for fighting slavery, that is exactly why chinks in jiuhukia or stinkypore are not in chains or not have been eliminated till now
same goes with other pendatangs.
meanwhile, in stinkypore, melayu and other muslims are officially discriminated against.
easy to invade ? for whom exactly?
all central asian countries are russian aligned dictatorships. putin doesn't complain about that btw. he complains abt yankee dollars only, coz his country was sanctioned and was also evicted out of olympics for steroid abuse by yankee poodles. yankees are guilty of the same but russkies don't have any poddles that can pull the same trick on yanks.
he never kpkb about UNSC and 5 veto wielding members coz russkies and chinks are 2 of the 5 members.
he only kpkb abt us $ coz that hurts his own pocket
whole central asia, even if got independence, also can't defeat tiongs. be realistic.
China's Uyghurs detained for simple acts of faith, leaked documents show - ABC News
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Leaked documents reveal how Chinese officials decide who to put in detention camps.(AP)
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For decades, Uyghur imam Memtimin Emer was a bedrock of his farming community in China's far west. On Fridays, he preached Islam as a religion of peace. On Sundays, he treated the sick with free herbal medicine. In the winter, he bought coal for the poor.
Key points:
Now, a newly revealed database has exposed in extraordinary detail the main reasons for the detentions of Mr Emer, his three sons, and hundreds of others in Karakax County: their religion and their family ties.
The leaked database contains details of 311 individuals and lists information on more than 2,000 of their relatives, neighbours and friends.
It shows the Chinese Government focuses on religion as a reason for detention — not just political extremism, as authorities say, but ordinary activities such as praying, attending a mosque, or even growing a long beard.
Each entry includes a detainee's name, address, national identity number, detention date and location, along with a detailed dossier on their family, religious and neighbourhood background, the reason for their detention, and a decision on whether or not to release them.
Issued within the past year, the documents do not indicate which government department compiled them or for whom.
Uyghur security personnel patrol near the Id Kah Mosque in Kashgar in western China's Xinjiang region.(AP: Han Guan)
Taken as a whole, the information offers the fullest and most personal view yet into how Chinese officials decide who to put into and let out of detention camps, as part of a massive crackdown that has locked away more than a million ethnic minorities, most of them Muslims.
It also shows people with detained relatives are far more likely to end up in a camp themselves, uprooting and criminalising entire families like Mr Emer's in the process.
Similarly, family background and attitude are bigger factors than detainee behaviour in whether they individuals are released, the documents show.
"It's very clear that religious practice is being targeted," Darren Byler, a University of Colorado researcher studying the use of surveillance technology in Xinjiang, said.
The Xinjiang regional Government did not respond to faxes requesting comment.
When asked whether Xinjiang was targeting religious people and their families, Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said "this kind of nonsense is not worth commenting on".
Beijing has previously said the detention centres are for voluntary job training, and that it does not discriminate based on religion.
'It underscores the witch-hunt mindset of the Government'
China has struggled for decades to control Xinjiang, where the native Uyghurs have long resented Beijing's heavy-handed rule.
Following the 9/11 attacks in the United States, officials began using the spectre of terrorism to justify harsher religious restrictions, arguing young Uyghurs were susceptible to Islamic extremism.
After militants set off bombs at a train station in Xinjiang's capital in 2014, Chinese President Xi Jinping launched a so-called People's War on Terror, transforming Xinjiang into a digital police state.
The leak of the database from sources in the Uyghur exile community followed the November release of a classified blueprint on how the mass detention system really worked.
The blueprint, obtained by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, showed the centres were forced ideological and behavioural re-education camps run in secret.
Another set of documents leaked to the New York Times revealed the historical lead-up to the mass detention.
The detainees listed come from Karakax County, a traditional settlement of about 650,000 on the edge of Xinjiang's Taklamakan desert where more than 97 per cent of residents are Uyghur.
The list was corroborated through interviews with former Karakax residents, Chinese identity verification tools, and other lists and documents.
Detainees and their families were tracked and classified by rigid, well-defined categories.
Households were designated as "trustworthy" or "not trustworthy", their attitudes were graded as "ordinary" or "good", and families had "light" or "heavy" religious atmospheres.
The database also kept count of how many relatives of each detainee were locked in prison or sent to a "training centre".
Officials used these categories and information to determine how suspicious a person was — even if they had not committed any crimes.
"It underscores the witch-hunt mindset of the Government and how the Government criminalises everything," Adrian Zenz, an expert on the detention centres, said.
Reasons listed for internment included "minor religious infection", "disturbs other persons by visiting them without reasons", "relatives abroad", "thinking is hard to grasp" and "untrustworthy person born in a certain decade".
The last seems to refer to younger men — about 31 per cent of people considered "untrustworthy" were in the age bracket of 25 to 29 years, according to an analysis of the data by Mr Zenz.
'He never bowed down to them'
When former student Abdullah Muhammad spotted Mr Emer's name on the list of the detained, he was distraught.
"He didn't deserve this," Mr Muhammad said. "Everyone liked and respected him. He was the kind of person who couldn't stay silent against injustice."
Even in Karakax county, famed for its intellectuals and scholars, Mr Emer was one of the most renowned teachers in the region.
Mr Muhammad studied the Koran under Mr Emer for six years as a child, following him from house to house in an effort to dodge the authorities.
He said Mr Emer was so respected the police would phone him with warnings ahead of time before raiding classes at his modest, single-storey home of brick and m&d.
Though Mr Emer gave Party-approved sermons, he refused to preach Communist propaganda, Mr Muhammad said, eventually running into trouble with the authorities.
He was stripped of his position as an imam and barred from teaching in 1997, amid unrest roiling the region.
When Mr Muhammad left China for Saudi Arabia and Turkey in 2009, Mr Emer was making his living as a doctor of traditional medicine.
Mr Emer was growing old and, under heavy surveillance, he had stopped attending religious gatherings.
The database is part of a massive crackdown in China that has locked away more than a million ethnic minorities, most of them Muslim.(AP)
That did not stop authorities from detaining the imam, aged is in his 80s, and sentencing him on various charges to up to 12 years in prison over 2017 and 2018.
The database cites four charges in various entries: "stirring up terrorism", acting as an unauthorised "wild" imam, following the strict Saudi Wahhabi sect and conducting illegal religious teachings.
Mr Muhammad called the charges false. Mr Emer had stopped his preaching, practised a moderate Central Asian sect of Islam rather than Wahhabism and never dreamed of hurting others, let alone stirring up "terrorism", Mr Muhammad said.
None of Mr Emer's three sons had been convicted of a crime. But the database showed that over the course of 2017, all were thrown into the detention camps for having too many children, trying to travel abroad, being "untrustworthy", being "infected with religious extremism" or going on the Hajj, the Muslim pilgrimage to the holy city of Mecca.
It also shows their relationship to Mr Emer and their religious background was enough to convince officials they were too dangerous to let out from the detention camps.
"His father taught him how to pray," notes one entry for his eldest, Ablikim Memtimin.
"His family's religious atmosphere is thick. We recommend he continue training," said an entry for Mr Emer's youngest son.
Even a neighbour was tainted by living near him, with Mr Emer's alleged crimes and prison sentence recorded in the neighbour's dossier.
The database indicates much of the information was collected by teams of cadres stationed at mosques, sent to visit homes and posted in communities.
This information was then compiled in a dossier called the "three circles", encompassing the individuals' relatives, community, and religious background.
It was not just the religious who were detained. The database shows Karakax officials also explicitly targeted people for activities that included going abroad, getting a passport or installing foreign software
Pharmacist Tohti Himit was detained in a camp for having gone multiple times to one of 26 "key" countries, mostly Muslim, according to the database.
Mr Emer is now under house arrest due to health issues, his former student, Mr Muhammad, has heard. It is unclear where Mr Emer's sons are.
It was the imam's courage and stubbornness that did him in, Muhammad said. Though deprived of his mosque and his right to teach, Mr Emer quietly defied the authorities for two decades by staying true to his faith.
"Unlike some other scholars, he never cared about money or anything else the Communist Party could give him," Mr Muhammad said.
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For decades, Uyghur imam Memtimin Emer was a bedrock of his farming community in China's far west. On Fridays, he preached Islam as a religion of peace. On Sundays, he treated the sick with free herbal medicine. In the winter, he bought coal for the poor.
Key points:
- The leaked database has information on 311 individuals and more than 2,000 of their relatives, neighbours and friends
- It shows the Chinese Government detained them for religious activities such as praying, attending a mosque, and growing a beard
- Information leaked last year showed the "training" camps were centres for forced ideological and behavioural re-education
Now, a newly revealed database has exposed in extraordinary detail the main reasons for the detentions of Mr Emer, his three sons, and hundreds of others in Karakax County: their religion and their family ties.
The leaked database contains details of 311 individuals and lists information on more than 2,000 of their relatives, neighbours and friends.
It shows the Chinese Government focuses on religion as a reason for detention — not just political extremism, as authorities say, but ordinary activities such as praying, attending a mosque, or even growing a long beard.
Each entry includes a detainee's name, address, national identity number, detention date and location, along with a detailed dossier on their family, religious and neighbourhood background, the reason for their detention, and a decision on whether or not to release them.
Issued within the past year, the documents do not indicate which government department compiled them or for whom.
Taken as a whole, the information offers the fullest and most personal view yet into how Chinese officials decide who to put into and let out of detention camps, as part of a massive crackdown that has locked away more than a million ethnic minorities, most of them Muslims.
It also shows people with detained relatives are far more likely to end up in a camp themselves, uprooting and criminalising entire families like Mr Emer's in the process.
Similarly, family background and attitude are bigger factors than detainee behaviour in whether they individuals are released, the documents show.
"It's very clear that religious practice is being targeted," Darren Byler, a University of Colorado researcher studying the use of surveillance technology in Xinjiang, said.
The Xinjiang regional Government did not respond to faxes requesting comment.
When asked whether Xinjiang was targeting religious people and their families, Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said "this kind of nonsense is not worth commenting on".
Beijing has previously said the detention centres are for voluntary job training, and that it does not discriminate based on religion.
'It underscores the witch-hunt mindset of the Government'
China has struggled for decades to control Xinjiang, where the native Uyghurs have long resented Beijing's heavy-handed rule.
Following the 9/11 attacks in the United States, officials began using the spectre of terrorism to justify harsher religious restrictions, arguing young Uyghurs were susceptible to Islamic extremism.
After militants set off bombs at a train station in Xinjiang's capital in 2014, Chinese President Xi Jinping launched a so-called People's War on Terror, transforming Xinjiang into a digital police state.
The leak of the database from sources in the Uyghur exile community followed the November release of a classified blueprint on how the mass detention system really worked.
The blueprint, obtained by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, showed the centres were forced ideological and behavioural re-education camps run in secret.
Another set of documents leaked to the New York Times revealed the historical lead-up to the mass detention.
The detainees listed come from Karakax County, a traditional settlement of about 650,000 on the edge of Xinjiang's Taklamakan desert where more than 97 per cent of residents are Uyghur.
The list was corroborated through interviews with former Karakax residents, Chinese identity verification tools, and other lists and documents.
Detainees and their families were tracked and classified by rigid, well-defined categories.
Households were designated as "trustworthy" or "not trustworthy", their attitudes were graded as "ordinary" or "good", and families had "light" or "heavy" religious atmospheres.
The database also kept count of how many relatives of each detainee were locked in prison or sent to a "training centre".
Officials used these categories and information to determine how suspicious a person was — even if they had not committed any crimes.
"It underscores the witch-hunt mindset of the Government and how the Government criminalises everything," Adrian Zenz, an expert on the detention centres, said.
Reasons listed for internment included "minor religious infection", "disturbs other persons by visiting them without reasons", "relatives abroad", "thinking is hard to grasp" and "untrustworthy person born in a certain decade".
The last seems to refer to younger men — about 31 per cent of people considered "untrustworthy" were in the age bracket of 25 to 29 years, according to an analysis of the data by Mr Zenz.
'He never bowed down to them'
When former student Abdullah Muhammad spotted Mr Emer's name on the list of the detained, he was distraught.
"He didn't deserve this," Mr Muhammad said. "Everyone liked and respected him. He was the kind of person who couldn't stay silent against injustice."
Even in Karakax county, famed for its intellectuals and scholars, Mr Emer was one of the most renowned teachers in the region.
Mr Muhammad studied the Koran under Mr Emer for six years as a child, following him from house to house in an effort to dodge the authorities.
He said Mr Emer was so respected the police would phone him with warnings ahead of time before raiding classes at his modest, single-storey home of brick and m&d.
Though Mr Emer gave Party-approved sermons, he refused to preach Communist propaganda, Mr Muhammad said, eventually running into trouble with the authorities.
He was stripped of his position as an imam and barred from teaching in 1997, amid unrest roiling the region.
When Mr Muhammad left China for Saudi Arabia and Turkey in 2009, Mr Emer was making his living as a doctor of traditional medicine.
Mr Emer was growing old and, under heavy surveillance, he had stopped attending religious gatherings.
That did not stop authorities from detaining the imam, aged is in his 80s, and sentencing him on various charges to up to 12 years in prison over 2017 and 2018.
The database cites four charges in various entries: "stirring up terrorism", acting as an unauthorised "wild" imam, following the strict Saudi Wahhabi sect and conducting illegal religious teachings.
Mr Muhammad called the charges false. Mr Emer had stopped his preaching, practised a moderate Central Asian sect of Islam rather than Wahhabism and never dreamed of hurting others, let alone stirring up "terrorism", Mr Muhammad said.
None of Mr Emer's three sons had been convicted of a crime. But the database showed that over the course of 2017, all were thrown into the detention camps for having too many children, trying to travel abroad, being "untrustworthy", being "infected with religious extremism" or going on the Hajj, the Muslim pilgrimage to the holy city of Mecca.
It also shows their relationship to Mr Emer and their religious background was enough to convince officials they were too dangerous to let out from the detention camps.
"His father taught him how to pray," notes one entry for his eldest, Ablikim Memtimin.
"His family's religious atmosphere is thick. We recommend he continue training," said an entry for Mr Emer's youngest son.
Even a neighbour was tainted by living near him, with Mr Emer's alleged crimes and prison sentence recorded in the neighbour's dossier.
The database indicates much of the information was collected by teams of cadres stationed at mosques, sent to visit homes and posted in communities.
This information was then compiled in a dossier called the "three circles", encompassing the individuals' relatives, community, and religious background.
It was not just the religious who were detained. The database shows Karakax officials also explicitly targeted people for activities that included going abroad, getting a passport or installing foreign software
Pharmacist Tohti Himit was detained in a camp for having gone multiple times to one of 26 "key" countries, mostly Muslim, according to the database.
Mr Emer is now under house arrest due to health issues, his former student, Mr Muhammad, has heard. It is unclear where Mr Emer's sons are.
It was the imam's courage and stubbornness that did him in, Muhammad said. Though deprived of his mosque and his right to teach, Mr Emer quietly defied the authorities for two decades by staying true to his faith.
"Unlike some other scholars, he never cared about money or anything else the Communist Party could give him," Mr Muhammad said.
AP/ABC
China forcibly sterilises Uighurs to control population: Report
A report about forced sterilisations by Chinese authorities, based on a combination of official regional data, policy documents and interviews with ethnic minority women, has prompted calls for a UN investigation. (AFP/HECTOR RETAMAL)
30 Jun 2020 04:12AM
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BEIJING: Chinese authorities are carrying out forced sterilisations of Uighur and other ethnic minority women in an apparent campaign to curb the population, a study said on Monday (Jun 29), triggering swift international condemnation.
China called the allegations baseless but the United States demanded an immediate end to the campaign described in the report, which was based on a combination of official regional data, policy documents and interviews with ethnic minority women.
China is accused of locking more than one million Uighurs and other mostly Muslim minorities in re-education camps. Beijing describes the facilities as job training centres aimed at steering people away from terrorism following a spate of violence blamed on separatists.
Now a report by Adrian Zenz, a German researcher who has exposed China's policies in Xinjiang, says Uighur women, among other ethnic minorities, are being threatened with internment in the camps for refusing to abort pregnancies that exceed birth quotas.
Zenz's data-driven work - which uses public documents found by scouring China's internet - on the camps has previously been cited by experts on a UN panel investigating the facilities.
Women who had fewer than the legally permitted limit of two children were involuntarily fitted with IUDs, says the report.
It also reports that some of the women said they were being coerced into receiving sterilisation surgeries.
Former camp detainees said they were given injections that stopped their periods, or caused unusual bleeding consistent with the effects of birth control drugs.
Government documents studied by Zenz also showed that women in some rural minority communities in the region received frequent mandatory gynaecological exams and bi-monthly pregnancy tests from local health officials.
Zenz found that population growth in Xinjiang counties predominantly home to ethnic minorities fell below the average growth in primarily Han majority counties between 2017 and 2018, a year after the officially recorded rate of sterilisations in the region sharply overtook the national rate in 2016.
Uighur activists say China is using the internment camps to conduct a massive brainwashing campaign aimed at eradicating their distinct culture and Islamic identity.
'ETHNO-RACIAL DOMINATION'
China appears to be using coercive birth control in Xinjiang as part of a "wider game plan of ethno-racial domination," Zenz wrote in the report.
"These findings raise serious concerns as to whether Beijing's policies in Xinjiang represent, in fundamental respects, what might be characterised as a demographic campaign of genocide" under UN definitions, Zenz said in the report.
The US State Department called the campaign "reminiscent of the abuses against members of ethnic and religious minority groups throughout the 20th century."
"We call on the Chinese Communist Party to immediately end these horrific practices and ask all nations to join the United States in demanding an end to these dehumanising abuses," Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, a frequent critic of Beijing, said in a statement.
The Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China (IPAC), a group of North American, European and Australian members of parliament from a range of political parties, said in a statement it would push for a legal investigation on "whether or not crimes against humanity or genocide have taken place" in Xinjiang.
IPAC was formed in June with a stated mission of standing up against "challenges posed by the present conduct and future ambitions of the People's Republic of China."
Britain said it was aware of reports which "add to our concern about the human rights situation in Xinjiang".
"Of course we will be considering this report very carefully," junior foreign office minister Nigel Adams told parliament.
China's foreign ministry said the allegations were "baseless" and showed "ulterior motives."
Foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian blasted media outlets for "cooking up false information on Xinjiang-related issues," saying at a regular press briefing that Xinjiang is "harmonious and stable."
The rights group World Uyghur Congress said the report showed a "genocidal element of the CCP's (Chinese Communist Party) policies" and called in a statement for international action to confront China.
Source: AFP
A report about forced sterilisations by Chinese authorities, based on a combination of official regional data, policy documents and interviews with ethnic minority women, has prompted calls for a UN investigation. (AFP/HECTOR RETAMAL)
30 Jun 2020 04:12AM
Bookmark
BEIJING: Chinese authorities are carrying out forced sterilisations of Uighur and other ethnic minority women in an apparent campaign to curb the population, a study said on Monday (Jun 29), triggering swift international condemnation.
China called the allegations baseless but the United States demanded an immediate end to the campaign described in the report, which was based on a combination of official regional data, policy documents and interviews with ethnic minority women.
China is accused of locking more than one million Uighurs and other mostly Muslim minorities in re-education camps. Beijing describes the facilities as job training centres aimed at steering people away from terrorism following a spate of violence blamed on separatists.
Now a report by Adrian Zenz, a German researcher who has exposed China's policies in Xinjiang, says Uighur women, among other ethnic minorities, are being threatened with internment in the camps for refusing to abort pregnancies that exceed birth quotas.
Zenz's data-driven work - which uses public documents found by scouring China's internet - on the camps has previously been cited by experts on a UN panel investigating the facilities.
Women who had fewer than the legally permitted limit of two children were involuntarily fitted with IUDs, says the report.
It also reports that some of the women said they were being coerced into receiving sterilisation surgeries.
Former camp detainees said they were given injections that stopped their periods, or caused unusual bleeding consistent with the effects of birth control drugs.
Government documents studied by Zenz also showed that women in some rural minority communities in the region received frequent mandatory gynaecological exams and bi-monthly pregnancy tests from local health officials.
Zenz found that population growth in Xinjiang counties predominantly home to ethnic minorities fell below the average growth in primarily Han majority counties between 2017 and 2018, a year after the officially recorded rate of sterilisations in the region sharply overtook the national rate in 2016.
Uighur activists say China is using the internment camps to conduct a massive brainwashing campaign aimed at eradicating their distinct culture and Islamic identity.
'ETHNO-RACIAL DOMINATION'
China appears to be using coercive birth control in Xinjiang as part of a "wider game plan of ethno-racial domination," Zenz wrote in the report.
"These findings raise serious concerns as to whether Beijing's policies in Xinjiang represent, in fundamental respects, what might be characterised as a demographic campaign of genocide" under UN definitions, Zenz said in the report.
The US State Department called the campaign "reminiscent of the abuses against members of ethnic and religious minority groups throughout the 20th century."
"We call on the Chinese Communist Party to immediately end these horrific practices and ask all nations to join the United States in demanding an end to these dehumanising abuses," Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, a frequent critic of Beijing, said in a statement.
The Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China (IPAC), a group of North American, European and Australian members of parliament from a range of political parties, said in a statement it would push for a legal investigation on "whether or not crimes against humanity or genocide have taken place" in Xinjiang.
IPAC was formed in June with a stated mission of standing up against "challenges posed by the present conduct and future ambitions of the People's Republic of China."
Britain said it was aware of reports which "add to our concern about the human rights situation in Xinjiang".
"Of course we will be considering this report very carefully," junior foreign office minister Nigel Adams told parliament.
China's foreign ministry said the allegations were "baseless" and showed "ulterior motives."
Foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian blasted media outlets for "cooking up false information on Xinjiang-related issues," saying at a regular press briefing that Xinjiang is "harmonious and stable."
The rights group World Uyghur Congress said the report showed a "genocidal element of the CCP's (Chinese Communist Party) policies" and called in a statement for international action to confront China.
Source: AFP
Uighyrs are small in numbers. No need to sterilise. They do not breed faster than rabbits as han chinese do.
Who says! The moslem birth rate is all time high except the hui chinese! Anyway, hui chinese has been integrated and transformed into han chinese!
Glad china doing everything to eradicate the venomous religion before it gets out of hand and become another ISIS.
Uighyr population is only 10.5 mil. Less than han chinese population in xinjiang of about 13.5 mil and expanding. Or out of 1.5 billion Han chinese in total.
Very wise of China
The only wise thing china did was to eradicate han chinese in the tens of millions, forced abortions on them and limit the number of hans they can produce to just one and now two per couple.
If they had not done this, population would have reached 2 billion by now.
Chinese has highest IQ! Most nations need chinese to strive the economy!
U are a frog in the well! There is actually loophole for them to have more children! Those work ccp under govt sector then will feel tremendous pressure to just have one kid! I know so many china chinese friens and mostly have more than 2 siblings or even up to 4 siblings and some without got caught for fine!
The book is right as islam is not suppose to be a religion. The arabic downfall came when religious doctrine took over.
Initially, arabs did not really study the quran that much.they were more into translating greek, roman, chinese, persian, indian subcontinent books and were at one time, masters of the universe.from the atlantic to the pacific you can find them.
Initially, arabs did not really study the quran that much.they were more into translating greek, roman, chinese, persian, indian subcontinent books and were at one time, masters of the universe.from the atlantic to the pacific you can find them.
Christian also say that they not a religion! All the words can be twisted in any form! Ah neh is well known for that and can say black stuff turn into a white stuff!
Unlike the ME they cannot feed their people and yet continue to fuck like rabbits and grow up to be terrorists. Should have forced abortion laws to deal with the situation.
And you can find muslims in the baltic thanks to the cossacks.and in africa where chinese have just landed there in abundance. Muslims were there first.
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