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Serious WP leadership tussle ‘brewing since 2014’

melzp

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[video=youtube;9R-Fwylg0tU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R-Fwylg0tU[/video]

Do opposition supporters still want this type of no ball LTK as MP who cannot reply a simple 'Yes"

Clearly, LTK no balls..Please wrap up and de-activate your useless Party.
Aren't you shameful being called mices??

He should have said:
For all the glory and honours you seek directly or indirectly, you must also
honourably step down for fiascoes and lapses from your machines.
So much is expected from you; as you seek the high obscene payroll from State Treasury.
 

Papsmearer

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hahaha....are u on duty???
another lackey cumming in to embarrass himself.....
of course we knew Scroobal had the thickest hide in SBF......even the largest CBT will not be able to hurt him or knock him down......

Do not karchow my clones, we are working. Fuck off back to fucking your mother's cheebye.
 

steffychun

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The unhappiness that has been brewing within the Workers’ Party (WP) for many years — mainly due to an “autocratic” leadership style and an increasingly homogenous cadre membership — appears to be the chief trigger that led to an unprecedented challenge to party chief Low Thia Khiang during its biennial Central Executive Council (CEC) elections on Sunday (May 29).

According to party members and activists TODAY spoke to, plans to contest the secretary-general post, which has been held by Mr Low for 15 years, had been developed as early as 2014, but were later aborted.

While Mr Low, 59, dismissed talk about internal rifts as “speculation”, the WP members — who asked to remain anonymous so as not to be subject to “party discipline” — said the challenge mounted by Mr Chen Show Mao, fellow Member of Parliament for Aljunied GRC, made it plain that some members wanted to see major changes in the way the party is run.

TODAY understands that several veteran cadres had urged Mr Chen, 55, to enter the fray as he is believed to be most senior CEC member who advocates a more “consultative and inclusive” approach in running the party.

Mr Chen was nominated for the post by the WP’s former deputy treasurer L Somasundaram, 53, and Dr John Yam, 54, both of whom lost their CEC seats in the party elections.

Although Mr Low retained his post, some party members said the fact that Mr Chen managed to secure more than two-fifths of the votes — 45 out of 106 — would provide the impetus needed for Mr Low to address the concerns that WP members have.

Among other issues that saw some members throw their support behind Mr Chen included the corporate governance woes surrounding the former Aljunied-Hougang-Punggol East Town Council — which party sources said threw up heated debates during the CEC’s four-hour meeting on Sunday — and a “lack of transparency” on how individuals were appointed as cadre members and selected as election candidates.

One former member said some also felt that Mr Low and party chairman Sylvia Lim should take responsibility for the setback the WP suffered in the General Election (GE) last September.

“Obviously, there are reformists trying to steer the party away from an autocratic leadership style … We hope what Mr Chen did would provide a psychological impact for cadre members to keep an independent mind,” said a member who has been with the WP for over 10 years.

Members in the “reformist camp” aspire towards a more inclusive leadership that accommodates different ideas and feedback, he added.

“This is important if we want to speak for the diverse community of Singaporeans,” he said.

Such a vision is at odds with Mr Low’s strong hold on the party, which some WP members said mirrors the late Mr Lee Kuan Yew’s leadership of the ruling People’s Action Party.

“(Mr Low) prefers very young people who can obediently toe his line and do his bidding. Those who think out of the box and stand tall with him are sidelined,” one member told TODAY.

Anyone who suggests reforms will be “punished”, he said, citing how certain veterans were not selected as candidates for last year’s GE.

In contrast, Mr Chen is seen as one who welcomes criticism and “makes everyone feel like they have a stake in the party”, he said.

Some party activists in the dissenting camp also feel that the newly minted CEC and present slate of cadres reflect a professional bias.

“There is a disproportionate number of members in elite professions, like lawyers and academics, which is not representative of society,” one of them said.

Twenty-eight out of 36 nominees were appointed new cadres during the previous CEC’s meeting in April. Cadres have the right to elect the CEC’s members.

While the party had introduced a slate of younger candidates in the September polls, in what Mr Low and Ms Lim had repeatedly touted as “leadership renewal”, dissenters described such mantra as mere rhetoric. “This is just the leadership’s way of keeping the ‘yes men’ and ‘yes women’ while sidelining the rest,” one member said.

While the internal rifts have driven some out of the WP, others in the “reformist camp” said they hope to remain in the party and see through the changes.

What happened on Sunday should prompt the party leadership to review its approach before the next GE, members said. “The secretary-general will have to take note of the reformists’ agenda, that they are a considerable force not to be taken lightly,” one member said.

The WP did not respond when asked to comment on what some of the party members had shared with
http://www.todayonline.com/singapore...e-brewing-2014

Tussle or not, WP is not Chee's loser SDP.
 

steffychun

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A vote for WP is a vote for PAP.
What have WP and Low Thia Kiang's gang done for the oppositions ????
WP is a timid and no ball party and never press hard questions to confront the PAP in parliament.
WP MPs always kept silence not offending the PAP and just want to collect easy 16k monthly.
LTK is a hopeless and has no balls idiot just collecting his easy 16k monthly.

Then please fuck Amos Yee. He's lonely.
 

GoldenDragon

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LTK is obviously a PAP stooge and mole, and its only now that they recognize it and try to move him out for a real oppo instead of a fake one.

don't anyhow suka suka make this allegation. some here in this forum worship the urine and shit of ltk! they will even sacrifice their wives and daughters to low.
 

GoldenDragon

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Why would PAP hand over a GRC and sacrifice 2 cabinet ministers and an MOS to the WP. It would easier to hand over Tampines as the PAP team under Mah Bow Tan were struggling.


Your assumption is WP sure-to-win in Aljunied with LTK leading the team. Prior to GE 2011, while there were signals and indications of a close fight, no pau jiak for WP. Don't forget WP could have lost even Hougang coz minus LTK, there is no guarantee his replacement would win. It was a gamble for both PAP and WP.

Going into Tampines is a separate matter altogether. Snatching it away from NSP may not be seen positively by voters and other opposition parties. In addition, WP's main focus then was Aljunied (previous GEs) and never Tampines.
 

scroobal

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I thought LTK was indeed brave to take on such a gamble. I don't think I recall a political leader anywhere who left his stronghold. Imagine if they lost both Aljunied and Hougang.

Your assumption is WP sure-to-win in Aljunied with LTK leading the team. Prior to GE 2011, while there were signals and indications of a close fight, no pau jiak for WP. Don't forget WP could have lost even Hougang coz minus LTK, there is no guarantee his replacement would win. It was a gamble for both PAP and WP.

Going into Tampines is a separate matter altogether. Snatching it away from NSP may not be seen positively by voters and other opposition parties. In addition, WP's main focus then was Aljunied (previous GEs) and never Tampines.
 

melzp

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why would anyone of sound mind want to tussle for this leadership,
whereby the current Leader is not interested in becoming PM.
 

GoldenDragon

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I thought LTK was indeed brave to take on such a gamble. I don't think I recall a political leader anywhere who left his stronghold. Imagine if they lost both Aljunied and Hougang.

was told that his refusal to take the plunge in Aljunied would have been viewed very negatively by key party leaders who felt the time was ripe to take this gamble. the score could well have been 2-0 in favour of the MIW.
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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Low Thia Khiang had read the ground very well. Aljunied was the highest scoring constituency in the 2006 elections for the opposition, apart from Hougang. And this despite the James Gomez saga which at that time had quite a few fellas shaking like leaves (remember 2006 was still a time when climate of fear in politics was very real).

Aljunied was not won overnight. WP had been cultivating the ground for years, based on Low's stature as an MP which he held continuously since 1991. The geographical proximity of Hougang was a key advantage in cultivating Aljunied. You could therefore say that the Aljunied win was 20 years in the making and was made possible only by Low's stature.

LTK took a calculated risk that the national mood was bad enough against the PAP and that his entry into the Aljunied team would be sufficient to tip the scales. I'm sure had the mood resembled 2006 or 2015 instead, Low would not have dared to leave his stronghold. 2011 was a golden opportunity and Low went all the way. In Chinese military philosophy - right place, right time, right man.
 

scroobal

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Thanks, very helpful.

was told that his refusal to take the plunge in Aljunied would have been viewed very negatively by key party leaders who felt the time was ripe to take this gamble. the score could well have been 2-0 in favour of the MIW.
 

scroobal

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I am sure some level of astute planning would have taken plan long before he plunge. I hope one day both Low and Sylvia after retiring pen their thoughts on these events to be shared.

Low Thia Khiang had read the ground very well. Aljunied was the highest scoring constituency in the 2006 elections for the opposition, apart from Hougang. And this despite the James Gomez saga which at that time had quite a few fellas shaking like leaves (remember 2006 was still a time when climate of fear in politics was very real).

Aljunied was not won overnight. WP had been cultivating the ground for years, based on Low's stature as an MP which he held continuously since 1991. The geographical proximity of Hougang was a key advantage in cultivating Aljunied. You could therefore say that the Aljunied win was 20 years in the making and was made possible only by Low's stature.

LTK took a calculated risk that the national mood was bad enough against the PAP and that his entry into the Aljunied team would be sufficient to tip the scales. I'm sure had the mood resembled 2006 or 2015 instead, Low would not have dared to leave his stronghold. 2011 was a golden opportunity and Low went all the way. In Chinese military philosophy - right place, right time, right man.
 

kukubird59

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i am here, kuku! sorry for my late reply.
hahaha....anybody with half a brain can see that u are always very quick to jump in suck Scroobal's cock.....
someone just fuxked Scroobal....literally...
so what are u going to do about it????
act dumb and engaged in small talks to deflect any embarrassment.......fuxking jiak liow bee doggie...
 

Papsmearer

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hahaha....anybody with half a brain can see that u are always very quick to jump in suck Scroobal's cock.....
someone just fuxked Scroobal....literally...
so what are u going to do about it????
act dumb and engaged in small talks to deflect any embarrassment.......fuxking jiak liow bee doggie...

Kukushit, if you have something to say to my clone, say it to my face, ok?
 

GoldenDragon

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hahaha....anybody with half a brain can see that u are always very quick to jump in suck Scroobal's cock.....
someone just fuxked Scroobal....literally...
so what are u going to do about it????
act dumb and engaged in small talks to deflect any embarrassment.......fuxking jiak liow bee doggie...

Medicine time, Kukubirdie!
 

Lemon

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Low Thia Khiang had read the ground very well. Aljunied was the highest scoring constituency in the 2006 elections for the opposition, apart from Hougang. And this despite the James Gomez saga which at that time had quite a few fellas shaking like leaves (remember 2006 was still a time when climate of fear in politics was very real).

Aljunied was not won overnight. WP had been cultivating the ground for years, based on Low's stature as an MP which he held continuously since 1991. The geographical proximity of Hougang was a key advantage in cultivating Aljunied. You could therefore say that the Aljunied win was 20 years in the making and was made possible only by Low's stature.

LTK took a calculated risk that the national mood was bad enough against the PAP and that his entry into the Aljunied team would be sufficient to tip the scales. I'm sure had the mood resembled 2006 or 2015 instead, Low would not have dared to leave his stronghold. 2011 was a golden opportunity and Low went all the way. In Chinese military philosophy - right place, right time, right man.


Haha, typical WP worshipers like you praise LTK and the WP as if they were really that capable!

The most important fact and the most important truth that you have deliberately left out was:

If CSM was not in the Aljunied team in 2011, the WP would definitely not have won Aljunied GRC, period!!!!!!!

If you remember the political news in 2011, CSM was the red hot item and he was definitely the favourite ice cream at that time.

So, LTK did not win Aljunied GRC because LTK was a good politician but because LTK was lucky to have CSM in his team at that time.

CSM would have helped the SDP or the NSP favourably if he had joined those two parties instead in 2011.
 

scroobal

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I have no doubt that CSM added considerably to WP's Aljunied fortunes in 2011.

Maybe CSM should leave WP and start his own party and contest the elections. It will then show if he is indeed the hotshot and prove that Low had been dependent on him.

The question is does CSM share the same belief as you and leave the WP and bring his followers along. There is nothing to stop him from doing so.


Haha, typical WP worshipers like you praise LTK and the WP as if they were really that capable!

The most important fact and the most important truth that you have deliberately left out was:

If CSM was not in the Aljunied team in 2011, the WP would definitely not have won Aljunied GRC, period!!!!!!!

If you remember the political news in 2011, CSM was the red hot item and he was definitely the favourite ice cream at that time.

So, LTK did not win Aljunied GRC because LTK was a good politician but because LTK was lucky to have CSM in his team at that time.

CSM would have helped the SDP or the NSP favourably if he had joined those two parties instead in 2011.
 
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