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Kong's. City Harvest Trial Trivia

bigboss

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KH has the $. Should have gotten Sant Singh. Lawrence Ang, ex-dir CAD would have been a wiser choice than Edwin.

Some lawyers have moral conscience to take on cases where they believe the accused is truly innocent and justice must prevail. There are of course certain lawyers who will take cases mainly for money only regardless whether the accused is truly a murderer or a rapist.
 

bigboss

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Always the case. Sentence will be based on the role each played. KH will get it jialat jialat. The fact that case went on trial will further exacerbate matters - lack of remorse. Edwin will not be able to help.

Ya, remember the case of Anthony Ler? He was the master mind who used the teenager to murder his wife although he did not kill her himself. He was hung for the crime and the teenage killer got life imprisonment. Sometimes, the paps would do wonderful things but sometimes, they would be silly like shit.
 

gongkia

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Ya, remember the case of Anthony Ler? He was the master mind who used the teenager to murder his wife although he did not kill her himself. He got hung for the crime and the teenage killer got life imprisonment. Sometimes, the paps would do wonderful things but sometimes, they would be silly like shit.

It gets more complicated for this case when many in the law enforcement chain are believers themselves.
 

bigboss

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Edwin's body language tells me he is wondering if one million dollars before tax is worth the smear on his character.

Where money talks, smear on character is immaterial. Similarly, why do some people like to be OKT although it is a smear on their character?

Money walks in after the customer walks out.
 

bigboss

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It gets more complicated for this case when many in the law enforcement chain are believers themselves.

No complication, lah. Onus is on KH to show he is innocent but if he is the head of CHC, how could he be ignorant about the happenings in his church? Moreover, the case involves the use of the church funds on his wife as well.

If he is truly ignorant, then LHL could also say he is not aware what his Ministers are doing which is unlikely. When his Minister farts, he should be able to tell which one is the farter.
 

scroobal

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The sad part is that Commissioner of Charities cracked under pressure and and did a u-turn by allowing the wife to takeover the running of the Church. In effect King is back in the chair detecting how his empire moves even when he is cools his heels in Changi.

After 5 years, he will be back and do what. Jim Bakker and preach that he is learnt from his sins and God took him back. That alone will bring him more converts as they think that he is honest.


No complication, lah. Onus is on KH to show he is innocent but if he is the head of CHC, how could he be ignorant about the happenings in his church? Moreover, the case involves the use of the church funds on his wife as well.

If he is truly ignorant, then LHL could also say he is not aware what his Ministers are doing which is unlikely. When his Minister farts, he should be able to tell which one is the farter.
 

GoldenDragon

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Some lawyers have moral conscience to take on cases where they believe the accused is truly innocent and justice must prevail. There are of course certain lawyers who will take cases mainly for money only regardless whether the accused is truly a murderer or a rapist.

Having dealt with many, never trust them. They are only keen to milk you dry. Worst profession.
 

Force 136

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If it can be proven that Kong Hee is footing the legal bills of everyone else, would this be a ground for Appeal upon conviction?

Would not this give rise to the suspicion of conflict of interests/dual representation?

Would a re-trial be ordered by the Court of Appeal?
 

scroobal

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Really good question.

It is actually completely out of bounds to find out who is paying the bill. The lawyer is expected to act in the interest of his client only. Of course easier said and done. Even if parents, spouses and relatives ask who is footing the bill, the lawyer cannot reveal. It is up to accused to accept or not to accept.

Sometime the accused smells a rat and this is when they discharge their lawyer. And guess who discharged his lawyer?


If it can be proven that Kong Hee is footing the legal bills of everyone else, would this be a ground for Appeal upon conviction?

Would not this give rise to the suspicion of conflict of interests/dual representation?

Would a re-trial be ordered by the Court of Appeal?
 

palden

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It's billions not millions. Millions is for the underpaid ministers we are having.

Running a church in sinkie land is a lucrative business. Just need to bullshit about God talking to you and you are on your way to collecting millions.

Would not be surprised if someone else again took this simple and effective route to become wealthy.
 

bic_cherry

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1. Suraj with one name. This is the guy that meets him in front of the courts as his car arrives and leads him to the car at the end of the day. He is CHC COO and trusted right hand man who who was a muslim and thus not keen to disclose his revealing muslin name (yet to be verified). The other theory is that he has a dark past. His best friend runs Xtron.

2. Kong has been selling his tapes and other paraphernalia to CHC and collecting millions. Its a closed loop.

3. kong has been investing in high end properties for some time and is known to own multiple units in certain developments.

4. Kong is footing the legal bill for all. The defence lawyers are not aware of it. What is interesting is that only Edwin Tong who is a PAP MP is not an SC and not known to be involved in criminal cases. This was the big questions on people's mind when the list of counsels were identified. Read Edwin's profile in his firm's website and there is no mention of the word "criminal". Oil and Gas expert?

5. Chew had his request for a foreign QC declined after discharging his first SC but refused to engage a local lawyer and has chosen to keep his reasons private. Intriguing.
Guess Kong is aware that in 1997, AGC showed itself to be the lapdog/ sock-puppet of the PAP. Perhaps by deploying a PAP lawyer to do his dirty work, Kong Hee hopes to hoodwink the AGC into going soft on the case by perhaps implying that there is value/ PAP endorsement of the way CHC managed (mismanaged) their accounts.

I just hope that the AGC has since outgrown that passing phase and are now able to discharge their duty of protecting all Singaporean's without fear/ favour rather than defending the PAP brand/ associated cronies at all costs.

The CHC trial will show if the AGC has grown up since that embarasing debacle of 1997. Or will PAP and its associates of overpaid cronies be favoured again?...

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