Minister Hen: RSAF has robust defence for SInkiepore airspace

Leongsam said:

Air defense in the event of war with the one or more neighbours will not be limited to just flying circles over 710sq km.

One of the first tasks at hand will be to neutralise the air power of the enemy. Once that is achieved Singapore will then be able to patrol the sea lanes unhindered to prevent a blockade of any sort.

You have to understand that a large part of Singapore's defense involves offense. We can't just sit back and allow artillery and missiles to rain down on the Island. Defense in depth will have to be achieved.

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tanwahtiu said:

whatever it is a woman with small boobs can do much? What can a pair of nipples do?

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Leongsam said:

With such a defeatist attitude, Singapore has no future.

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Leongsam said:

The RSAF isn't going to wait till intruders are actually over the 710sqkm of airspace immediately above the Island. Way back in in 1988 when I was directly involved in the air defense of the Island, the E2Cs that were being used at the time provided more than 30 minutes of warning of any unusual aircraft activity within a cone of more than 250km radius.

You can read about the E2C's capabilities at https://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/e-2.htm

Many years have passed and I'm sure the advanced warning features today give even more time to react.

At Tengah Air Base, one squadron would be on standby duty at all times and could be scrambled within minutes. I can vouch for this because I witnessed it many times when I was deployed there.

All Air Forces have their limitations but I can tell you that when it comes to air defense, Singapore is not to be messed with. It is one of the best in the region. It's something that Singaporeans should truly be proud of.

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Papsmearer said:

Or is that capability also smoke and mirrors?

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Leongsam said:

Singapore is acquiring, or has already deployed, the arrow2 system.

http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Se...-to-get-Israels-Iron-Dome/UPI-11461270226828/

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Leongsam said:

In this day and age, it would be impossible to deploy hundreds of missiles without being seen. The air force would have to take them out before they are fired or if it comes to the unfortunate situation where an attack has already begun, the launching sites would have to be neutralised asap to prevent further attacks.

However, as you have pointed out, Singapore is an oasis located in an unfriendly neighborhood. Nothing can be taken for granted. That is why it is important for the nation to remain united and steadfast.

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Papsmearer said:

Since your military knowledge is not up to snuff, you should stop making an ass of yourself. What make you think launching sites are not mobile? They fire and they leave the area. Good luck finding them. In any case, if an attack occurs, it will not be from missiles but from rockets from a MLRS. And those are not stoppable. And everything is on wheels now. U think they have fixed installations for the air force to hit? Dream on.

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Leongsam said:

Singapore has the hardware. However, because peace has prevailed many systems have not been tested in real life. This problem affects all countries not just Singapore.

When it comes to the crunch, I'm sure mistakes will be made as has been the case in many wars. Even the Israelis have made strategic mistakes.

However, it is comforting to know that Singapore has the hardware and manpower in place to deal with aggression. We can only hope that if war does break out, the learning curve will be as short as possible and that casualties and damage can be kept as low as possible.

The best possible scenario is to prevent aggression in the first place and Singapore has done an outstanding job in sending a clear message that attacking the Island will prove very costly to the aggressor.

The alternative is to adopt a fatalistic attitude that Singapore is a sitting duck so why bother in the first place and spend nothing on defense. We all know that this stance would be an open invitation to take over the country.

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borom said:

The biggest threat is the enemy within.
With the pappies openly welcoming all and sundry, who knows how many of these foreigners are a security threat?
One of the highest paid in the world even boasted about how many foreigners served NS under him!

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Leongsam said:

The build up to war does not happen in a vacuum. If things escalate towards conflict, intelligence has to kick in an and sufficient knowledge gained to neutralise the threat should it occur.

.... as Singaporeans, should simply discard all hope of securing the place we call home and leave it completely vulnerable so that the neighbors can do whatever they want with the Island.

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Leongsam said:

I'm not pretending to be an expert either. I'm merely trying to counter the idea that Singapore cannot be defended and the we, as Singaporeans, should simply discard all hope of securing the place we call home and leave it completely vulnerable so that the neighbors can do whatever they want with the Island.

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Leongsam said:

When I was stationed at Tengah, there was one E2C airborne at all times and one fighter squadron on standby to be scrambled at short notice.

The E2Cs detected Indonesian naval activity during the aftermath of the hanging of the McDonald House bombers. It was the Old man's relationship with Suharto that enabled urgent phone calls to be made and the situation was diffused quickly.

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Leongsam said:

Air defense in the event of war with the one or more neighbours will not be limited to just flying circles over 710sq km.

One of the first tasks at hand will be to neutralise the air power of the enemy. Once that is achieved Singapore will then be able to patrol the sea lanes unhindered to prevent a blockade of any sort.

You have to understand that a large part of Singapore's defense involves offense. We can't just sit back and allow artillery and missiles to rain down on the Island. Defense in depth will have to be achieved.

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Leongsam said:

The build up to war does not happen in a vacuum. If things escalate towards conflict, intelligence has to kick in an and sufficient knowledge gained to neutralise the threat should it occur.

Why do you think Singapore hosts the US navy from time to time and kisses Uncle Sam's ass when required. It's to keep the nation within the intelligence loop.

NZ does the same thing and acts as listening post for the Southern Ocean.

Doctrines are always under continuous development to counter various scenarios and mobile launching sites are not new. They were a factor more than 3 decades ago when monitoring technology was still in the rudimentary stage.

I admit I am out of date as I no longer have a direct role in the defense of Singapore and things change very quickly.

I'm not pretending to be an expert either. I'm merely trying to counter the idea that Singapore cannot be defended and the we, as Singaporeans, should simply discard all hope of securing the place we call home and leave it completely vulnerable so that the neighbors can do whatever they want with the Island.

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Papsmearer said:

Seriously, you have to stop spewing shit. You can have the best hardware in the world, the best equipped and trained men in the world, its all useless when you don't have good military leaders to lead them. Our paper scholar generals have never fired a shot in anger, nor seen combat. Even Indonesian generals are not respectful of them. Everyone in Asia knows they are a joke. There are so many cambridge, harvard, MIT degrees among them, but not one graduate from the places that really count e.g. West Point, Sandhurst, etc. These assholes are just politicians and Ministers in waiting. Without good generalship, the best army in the world is useless. Look at Alexander the Great's victory at gaugamela against a much larger Persian army. His tactical skill, and maneovring of his troops routed enemy. Singaporeans know that we have fucktards fraudulently masquerading as generals. they are nor fatalistic. they are just realistic that when these idiots lead the SAF into war, all is lost even before a shot is fired. the sooner you wrap your brain around that, the better for you.

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Papsmearer said:

Once again, you are full of shit. Just shut up. Build up to simi lancheow war? Who is going to attack or invade us? malaysia? Indonesia? Thailand? China? India? Who has the motivation and the ability to do so? The answer is NO ONE. Ok, just give me one country that you think wants to attack Singapore in the future and why they would do it.

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joetys said:

Singapore should project air power not just defence, to project air power we should get this fearsome creature

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Leongsam said:

If you're going to be abusive, there's no point debating.

The answer to your question is that nobody can foretell the future. Indonesia declared hostilities on Singapore when it was part of Malaysia. There could be a repeat of such a scenario.

Political instability in a neighboring country could also result in hostile action in a scenario similar to what started the Falkland's war. Singapore has always been the whipping boy of Malaysian politicians when they want to score political capital.

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