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Why no state funeral for ex-president ong teng cheong ???
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because he tried to do his job and asked for an audit of the government reserves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ong_Teng_Cheong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ong_Teng_Cheong
Prataman will get one...and get up & ask " WHY AM I HERE'... ha ha ha
Double standards practised by the MIW ?
This proves that the MIW are a vengeful and unmagnanimous monster.
Goh Keng Swee disappeared for 26 years from the public limelight and when he died,suddenly the MIW propadanda galvanised to show that he is a Saint !!! GE is coming ???
When Ong Teng Cheong died while in office as President of Singapore,he is given a low profile hush hush burial .KNNCCB to the MIW !!!
If MIW still in power the next GE,Heaven got no eyes !!!
The late Mr. Ong Teng Cheong didn't just do his work - be a dummy, he asked one question too many.
The owner of the country became unhappy, sacked him for trying to do his job.
In this world, its not always right to do whats required of you, but to do what the owner asks you to do.
The owner of the country became unhappy, sacked him for trying to do his job.
In this world, its not always right to do whats required of you, but to do what the owner asks you to do.
Noticed that the article in today's credible and trusted State's Times mentioned a list of individual who were accorded state funeral.
Very prominently, Ong Teng Cheong was not mentioned at all.
Hmmmmm....the leeporter did not dared to ask and cannot explain why, hence totally treat as there was never a OTC, one of our PResident who dard to ask questions that may jeopardise the regime ?
Very prominently, Ong Teng Cheong was not mentioned at all.
Hmmmmm....the leeporter did not dared to ask and cannot explain why, hence totally treat as there was never a OTC, one of our PResident who dard to ask questions that may jeopardise the regime ?
The family turned it down.
Officially, yes. But it is hard to imagine his family rejecting the honour of the State , and the citizen, to pay final respect for his contributions.
But at least our credible, highly trusted and unbiased newspaper should at least mention OTC and highlight that is an exception due to 'family turned it down'.
Leaving that out leave much room for rumours, and probably endorsing what the ground is speculating.
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Posted by theonlinecitizen on May 15, 2010 74 Comments I refer to the report “State funeral for former DPM Goh Keng Swee” (Channel News Asia, May 14).
When former President Wee Kim Wee passed away in May 2005, I penned a letter (published in the Today newspaper on 10th May 2005), to ask why former President Ong Teng Cheong was not given a state funeral – a honour accorded to President Wee and all previous Presidents.
I wrote:
I refer to media reports that the honour of state funerals was accorded in the past to former presidents Yusof Ishak and Benjamin Sheares.
I would like to ask whether a state funeral was accorded to the late former President Ong Teng Cheong when he died in 2002.
If not, why is it that he is the only president who was not given a state funeral?
As Singapore’s first elected president, I think many Singaporeans may feel that he deserved a state funeral.
The late President Ong Teng Cheong dedicated 27 years of his working life to public service, as President for six years, Deputy Prime Minister for three years, Second Deputy Prime Minister for five years, Secretary-General of NTUC for 11 years, chairman of the People’s Action Party for 12 years, Minister for Communications, and Member of Parliament for 21 years.
Who decides whether a former president is to be given a state funeral? Is there some criteria for deciding on a state funeral?
I suggest that a state funeral be accorded to all former presidents who die in the future.
Letter from Leong Sze Hian
The Prime Minister’s press secretary replied on 13th May:
Honour rites still evolving; No formula for state funeral entitlement
Mr Leong Sze Hian (Today, May 10) and Mr Goh Choon Kang (Lianhe Zaobao, May 12) have asked why the funeral arrangements for Mr Ong Teng Cheong and Dr Wee Kim Wee, both former presidents, were not the same.
Mr Ong Teng Cheong received a state-assisted funeral, while Dr Wee Kim Wee received a state funeral. Mr Goh Choon Kang suggested that we should have definite rules on who is entitled to a state funeral.
When Singaporeans who have made major contributions to the country pass away, it is right and fitting that they be honoured and mourned by the nation. They may or may not be former Presidents. The appropriate way to do so will vary with each individual.
It is not feasible to have a set formula as to who should receive a state funeral, based simply on the person’s rank or the appointment that he or she had held. It depends on the person’s services to the nation, as well as other special circumstances.
Persons who have made truly exceptional contributions will receive a state funeral. The decision to hold one is made by the Prime Minister and the Cabinet.
If they decide to offer a state funeral, they will of course consult the family members and take into account their wishes.
Singapore is still a young country. Our practices and customs for public ceremonies and observances are still evolving.
As the years pass, we will gradually establish norms and traditions that will reflect the Singapore way of honouring our best sons and daughters who have passed away, that is dignified, restrained and expresses the gratitude and sense of loss of the nation.
Chen Hwai Liang
Press Secretary to Prime Minister
_______________________
When the late President Ong Teng Cheong asked how much assets the Government had, he never got an answer because he was told that it would take 56 man-years to obtain the information for him.
We re-publish former President Ong Teng Cheong’s interview with AsiaWeek (10 March 2000) where he revealed the obstacles he faced when he asked for the copies of the government’s accounts on the reserves and investments.
President Ong Teng Cheong’s political career spanned 21 years. He was Member of Parliament, Cabinet Minister and Deputy Prime Minister, before he resigned to become Elected President in 1993. And it was as Communications Minister that Ong pushed for the development of the MRT system, the largest construction project in Singapore’s history. His next challenge came on the labour front, when he became NTUC Secretary-General in 1983. Ong was diagnosed with lymphoma-cancer of the lymphatic system in 1992. But this did not dampen his desire to continue serving. He became Singapore’s first Elected President a year later, and it was a presidency marked by many charitable projects, which touched the lives of many Singaporeans. Ong stepped down as President at the age of 63.
As chairman of the People’s Action Party (PAP) and secretary-general of the National Trades Union Congress, Ong was considered a firm Lee Kuan Yew loyalist. In January 1986, he sanctioned a strike in the shipping industry, the first for about a decade in Singapore, without telling the cabinet. He said that he did not inform the cabinet or the government because they would probably stop him from going ahead with the strike. There was a major corporate and Cabinet backlash against his decision; however, the strike lasted only two days, and a deal was struck. He was also a former Minister of National Development.
Source: Wikipedia
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By Leong Sze Hian
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Posted by theonlinecitizen on May 15, 2010 74 Comments I refer to the report “State funeral for former DPM Goh Keng Swee” (Channel News Asia, May 14).
When former President Wee Kim Wee passed away in May 2005, I penned a letter (published in the Today newspaper on 10th May 2005), to ask why former President Ong Teng Cheong was not given a state funeral – a honour accorded to President Wee and all previous Presidents.
I wrote:
I refer to media reports that the honour of state funerals was accorded in the past to former presidents Yusof Ishak and Benjamin Sheares.
I would like to ask whether a state funeral was accorded to the late former President Ong Teng Cheong when he died in 2002.
If not, why is it that he is the only president who was not given a state funeral?
As Singapore’s first elected president, I think many Singaporeans may feel that he deserved a state funeral.
The late President Ong Teng Cheong dedicated 27 years of his working life to public service, as President for six years, Deputy Prime Minister for three years, Second Deputy Prime Minister for five years, Secretary-General of NTUC for 11 years, chairman of the People’s Action Party for 12 years, Minister for Communications, and Member of Parliament for 21 years.
Who decides whether a former president is to be given a state funeral? Is there some criteria for deciding on a state funeral?
I suggest that a state funeral be accorded to all former presidents who die in the future.
Letter from Leong Sze Hian
The Prime Minister’s press secretary replied on 13th May:
Honour rites still evolving; No formula for state funeral entitlement
Mr Leong Sze Hian (Today, May 10) and Mr Goh Choon Kang (Lianhe Zaobao, May 12) have asked why the funeral arrangements for Mr Ong Teng Cheong and Dr Wee Kim Wee, both former presidents, were not the same.
Mr Ong Teng Cheong received a state-assisted funeral, while Dr Wee Kim Wee received a state funeral. Mr Goh Choon Kang suggested that we should have definite rules on who is entitled to a state funeral.
When Singaporeans who have made major contributions to the country pass away, it is right and fitting that they be honoured and mourned by the nation. They may or may not be former Presidents. The appropriate way to do so will vary with each individual.
It is not feasible to have a set formula as to who should receive a state funeral, based simply on the person’s rank or the appointment that he or she had held. It depends on the person’s services to the nation, as well as other special circumstances.
Persons who have made truly exceptional contributions will receive a state funeral. The decision to hold one is made by the Prime Minister and the Cabinet.
If they decide to offer a state funeral, they will of course consult the family members and take into account their wishes.
Singapore is still a young country. Our practices and customs for public ceremonies and observances are still evolving.
As the years pass, we will gradually establish norms and traditions that will reflect the Singapore way of honouring our best sons and daughters who have passed away, that is dignified, restrained and expresses the gratitude and sense of loss of the nation.
Chen Hwai Liang
Press Secretary to Prime Minister
_______________________
When the late President Ong Teng Cheong asked how much assets the Government had, he never got an answer because he was told that it would take 56 man-years to obtain the information for him.
We re-publish former President Ong Teng Cheong’s interview with AsiaWeek (10 March 2000) where he revealed the obstacles he faced when he asked for the copies of the government’s accounts on the reserves and investments.
President Ong Teng Cheong’s political career spanned 21 years. He was Member of Parliament, Cabinet Minister and Deputy Prime Minister, before he resigned to become Elected President in 1993. And it was as Communications Minister that Ong pushed for the development of the MRT system, the largest construction project in Singapore’s history. His next challenge came on the labour front, when he became NTUC Secretary-General in 1983. Ong was diagnosed with lymphoma-cancer of the lymphatic system in 1992. But this did not dampen his desire to continue serving. He became Singapore’s first Elected President a year later, and it was a presidency marked by many charitable projects, which touched the lives of many Singaporeans. Ong stepped down as President at the age of 63.
As chairman of the People’s Action Party (PAP) and secretary-general of the National Trades Union Congress, Ong was considered a firm Lee Kuan Yew loyalist. In January 1986, he sanctioned a strike in the shipping industry, the first for about a decade in Singapore, without telling the cabinet. He said that he did not inform the cabinet or the government because they would probably stop him from going ahead with the strike. There was a major corporate and Cabinet backlash against his decision; however, the strike lasted only two days, and a deal was struck. He was also a former Minister of National Development.
Source: Wikipedia
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By Leong Sze Hian
__________________________________________________________
1) The sons turned down the offer of a state funeral which the cabinet offered.
2) For state funerals, it would put undesirable constraint on a country to have formula that states that certain state appointments automatically receives a state funeral. Every case should be considered on its merits. Typically some position holders may not have done well and have committed indiscretions whilst in office. Because it is the highest state in the office, these are never publicised.
I have no love for the PAP. So far they have made the right decisions for state funerals except in the case of OTC who I don't regard as anyone exceptional. He was with the PAP all the way until he took the presidency. The request to value the assets was not the source or roots of the conflict with old man. I am sure you know that at least. Only the gullible and ignorant would think so. It was over his treatment whilst in the Istana and he was asked to move to Command house. The whole thing started over his sons abusing the Istana priviliges expecially one son and the fight over access to the 9 holes.
As an insurance man, you might not have a clue but ask the accountants in the big firms. He was asking to value all state assets including drains. If you read the role of the elected president, it to ensure that funds locked away has to receive his assent. Valuation of state land, buildings, black and white bungalows, drains etc is pretty much meaningless to a sovereign country but it would be important to an individual or a firm. He must have known that most Singaporeans were clueless.
The hardest thing to value is ignorance and the other is engaging in a debate.
2) For state funerals, it would put undesirable constraint on a country to have formula that states that certain state appointments automatically receives a state funeral. Every case should be considered on its merits. Typically some position holders may not have done well and have committed indiscretions whilst in office. Because it is the highest state in the office, these are never publicised.
I have no love for the PAP. So far they have made the right decisions for state funerals except in the case of OTC who I don't regard as anyone exceptional. He was with the PAP all the way until he took the presidency. The request to value the assets was not the source or roots of the conflict with old man. I am sure you know that at least. Only the gullible and ignorant would think so. It was over his treatment whilst in the Istana and he was asked to move to Command house. The whole thing started over his sons abusing the Istana priviliges expecially one son and the fight over access to the 9 holes.
As an insurance man, you might not have a clue but ask the accountants in the big firms. He was asking to value all state assets including drains. If you read the role of the elected president, it to ensure that funds locked away has to receive his assent. Valuation of state land, buildings, black and white bungalows, drains etc is pretty much meaningless to a sovereign country but it would be important to an individual or a firm. He must have known that most Singaporeans were clueless.
The hardest thing to value is ignorance and the other is engaging in a debate.
That does not square with what PMO replied to Leong Sze Hian. The forum letter suggests that OTC was not selected to be given a state funeral. What the family told the press is one thing. But it seems more likely that OTC was given the snub by the PAP. Because if indeed the government wanted to give him a state funeral but the family declined, the PMO would have stated this explicitly in their forum letter.
Because he is too naughty. Some more what ask workers go on strike
Even Americans also make courtesy phone call and ask why Singapore got strike one. Everyone here all blur blur don't know what to say. You see lah!
And then you see Wee and S.R. are both so good and they just play their nice quiet roles in the nice house in the city as the country's figurehead and foreign relations bridge, so they sure get very good death and burial.
Who is really like you so free part of GLC but then old already kenna kick out because you cannot perform and always eat snake? Like that no need yaya papaya la.
You very fat la. And so kay poh as ex-insider some more. And assume you say all really true but nobody outside on ground can know about such things when these things are all confidential and also within-the-clique issues okay? Stupid?
Exactly because he never made a single noise for the past 26 years..
PAP doesn't like noises except singing of praises..
The family rejected the state funeral presumably indignant at either Mrs Ong being denied a state funeral or the mood of Ong's departure.
That is not accurate either. OTC lived in Command House from day one of his Presidency. Only Encik Yusof ever lived in the Istana.
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