Prefer to drive. Flight for such a short distance not worth it.
yeah drive is a better option only about 3hrs..its just like from sg drive to kl...Road Trip!!!!!
Prefer to drive. Flight for such a short distance not worth it.
Thank you. But must I go personally to the CPF board to withdraw CPF? Can't I send them all the documents and get them to TT the money over?
I need my CPF money, besides, I've been notified by the ICA that it is illegal to hold on to the Sinkee citizenship while having a foreign citizenship. As such, I'll have no choice but to surrender the Sinkee passport and the pink IC when I get back to Oz later this year.
You brought up an interesting point. You mean ICA actually told you it is illegal to hold on top Singapore citizenship?? Was it a case of having to give up singapore passport becasue you want the CPF or was it ICA seperately asking you to turn in passport.
SOme in this forum, including Scroobal (very well informed) has mentioned that unofficial policy is that Singapore Gov will not insist that you hand in your passport upon getting another passport. That there is unofficial dual citizenship.
Perhaps there has been a change in official policy.
Thanks Kiwibird. But what about withdrawl of CPF? Could I call the ICA/CPF board after sometime? How long will the process take? And also, could I possibly trust the ICa and send my documents to them?
you can do it online or via mail. but you need all supporting documents and you need to sign the application form. you can either sign the application in person at their office, or you can sign it in front of a public notary in order to obtain a certification stamp.
go to http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/Members/home.htm
look under faq.
click on question #3.
"Q: Can I withdraw my CPF if I am leaving Singapore and West Malaysia permanently? If so, what do I need to do?
A: You may withdraw your CPF in full if you have left Singapore and West Malaysia permanently with no intention of returning to either country for employment or residence.
You may apply for withdrawal online under my cpf Online Services - My Requests if you have a SingPass. Alternatively, you can also complete the application form CPF-LM and mail it to us.
To support your application, please mail us photocopies of the relevant supporting documents (as stated on the application form) which must be certified by a Notary Public or an official from Singapore High Commision."
you also need a bank routing number in your new country to receive the funds by wire. normally, the cpf board will transfer your money to a bank of their choice in your new country, and you'll get a notice of the transfer via mail in the form of a check or money order issued by the bank.
all the info is readily available online. you just need to search for them.
You brought up an interesting point. You mean ICA actually told you it is illegal to hold on top Singapore citizenship?? Was it a case of having to give up singapore passport becasue you want the CPF or was it ICA seperately asking you to turn in passport.
SOme in this forum, including Scroobal (very well informed) has mentioned that unofficial policy is that Singapore Gov will not insist that you hand in your passport upon getting another passport. That there is unofficial dual citizenship.
Perhaps there has been a change in official policy.
Normally takes about 6-8 weeks for ICA to process renunciation applications if all the documents have been properly filled, notarised etc. Your return mail address is most important for their reply to reach you.
Sending straight to ICA via courier mail is much better and faster than sending it through the scenic route (High Com in Australia).
Once your International Bank draft has been cleared it would indicate that the ICA has received your application and should be processing your application.
ICA would not inform CPF on your behalf. You have to inform the CPF yourself with the letter from the ICA that you have ceased to be a SG citizen. Your CPF funds could be transferred electronically to a SG bank account (10 days) or a International Bank Draft in a currency you prefer and posted to your overseas address (takes longer than 10 days). I don't think CPF would TT your CPF internationally.
Actually I have asked ICA myself and they have told me that Singapore does not allow dual citizenship. They have also told me that having dual citisenship could entail a hefty fine or jail term. I'm aware that some folks like Scroobal have argued in the past till dawn breaks that having dual citizenship is not an offense but there is a grey area here. While many other countries officially allow dual citizenship, Singapore has not stated that it does. The Sinkee government can prosecute a person if it wants to, the question is whether they'll choose to do it or not. All they've got ot do is to just take one person as a scape goat to set an example and who knows who that lucky person to "strike Toto" will be? Like you know, slaughtering the chicken to scare the cows.
Actually I have asked ICA myself and they have told me that Singapore does not allow dual citizenship. They have also told me that having dual citisenship could entail a hefty fine or jail term. I'm aware that some folks like Scroobal have argued in the past till dawn breaks that having dual citizenship is not an offense but there is a grey area here. While many other countries officially allow dual citizenship, Singapore has not stated that it does. The Sinkee government can prosecute a person if it wants to, the question is whether they'll choose to do it or not. All they've got ot do is to just take one person as a scape goat to set an example and who knows who that lucky person to "strike Toto" will be? Like you know, slaughtering the chicken to scare the cows.
If you ask them, sure lah, they'll tell you so. Do you expect them to say, ya ok? Why the sinkie govt has not acted loudly so far is because they wld have to extend the requirement to new citizens too and they are afraid to ask them to choose in case they up and leave. If some of them are allowed, and you come to know of it, won't you kpkb? Therefore, sinkie govt knows they are weak in bargaining - at least for now, when they need FTs.
Yr last sentence: you mean killing the monkey to scare the chickens?
Well I don't know. The fact is that they can prosecute you if they want to, whether they will or not is a different situation altogether but there is always that risk. The choice of holding on to the Sinkee passport however is not open to me as I need my CPF money. .
Hi Guys:
I became an Australian citizen sometime at the end of last month.
Congrats !
My wifey is also in the process of renouncing.. I have done it few years ago, now kinda blur-blur.. your info is worth a gold to us ! Must die-die collect CPF lah, coz the returns in Aus can easily hit 10-20 percent..
good luck !
Good luck and all the best.
If you ask them, sure lah, they'll tell you so. Do you expect them to say, ya ok? Why the sinkie govt has not acted loudly so far is because they wld have to extend the requirement to new citizens too and they are afraid to ask them to choose in case they up and leave. If some of them are allowed, and you come to know of it, won't you kpkb? Therefore, sinkie govt knows they are weak in bargaining - at least for now, when they need FTs.
Yr last sentence: you mean killing the monkey to scare the chickens?
Don Muthuswamy: On the other hand, if they were to allow dual citizenship, people who come of NS age could just run off. So at the end of the day, its more of a choice beteen the devil and the deep blue sea.
Aiyo.. she's a super pro-pap you see.. educated in one of our prestige top 5 JCs and local Uni, she has to be "absolutely" sure before she makes the move.. Of course, opportunity means nothing to her.. (but) safety and security are everything..Thanks. But why she did not renounce together with you? Did she come after you?
Even now, NS liable children are already absconding via emigration when the PAP govt doesn't allow dual citizenship.
Does dual citizenship make it any easier to abscond from NS? Dual citizenship males can run away but they can never return to Singapore even if they hold a SG Passports for they will be arrested the moment they land on Singapore shores. If one cannot return to Singapore even if one has a SG passport, what then is the point of having dual citizenship in name only?
So it makes no difference whether dual citizenship is given or the current status quo remains where running away from NS is concerned.
In fact permitting dual citizenship could prevent the withdrawal of CPF from S'poreans renouncing SG citizenship as the application can be rejected outright by the PAP govt.
especially where they can pevent Sinkees from withdrawing their CPF.