NSP to lose deposit again in 3-corner fight in Marine Parade, just like 1992

[ahsoo]

There was a by-election in 1992 in Marine Parade. A four-corner fight between PAP, SDP, NSP and SJP.

The results:

PAP 72.9%

SDP 24.5%

NSP 1.4%

SJP 1.1%

NSP should not risk losing its credibility further. In a multi-corner fight, opposition supporters will vote for the stronger PAP challengers.

The choice is so obvious, unless NSP's intention is to deprive a likely victory for WP.

 

[Lemon]

1992 was twenty three years ago. A baby born in 1992 would be 23 years old now. How to compare old data and now like that. Does not make sense at all.

 

[ahsoo]

1992 was twenty three years ago. A baby born in 1992 would be 23 years old now. How to compare old data and now like that. Does not make sense at all.

Punggol East by-election 2013 is a more recent example. Smart opposition supporters will ensure spoilers lose their deposits.

And compared to 23 years ago, today's voters have Internet to rely upon for useful and solid information to help them make their decision.

 

[laksaboy]

Punggol East by-election 2013 is a more recent example. Smart opposition supporters will ensure spoilers lose their deposits.

And compared to 23 years ago, today's voters have Internet to rely upon for useful and solid information to help them make their decision.

Hopefully, they are smart enough to know which are the PAP IB sites.

I have provided a list of my own.

https://www.facebook.com/LabourMovementSingapore
https://www.facebook.com/FiveStarsAndAMoon
https://www.facebook.com/singaporeconscience
https://www.facebook.com/FabricationsAboutThePAP
https://www.facebook.com/fabflop
http://www.youtube.com/user/singaporeroar
http://www.fivestarsandamoon.com
https://www.facebook.com/shutdowntrs
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9PAYsa3wsdEaBkpYg1JlIA (Tiffany loves SG)
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOAg1wCuOqL8ZAtIlVcq7zw (Young NTUC)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4wQPDIJnCw24dEnHg-KJxQ (sgHardTruth)
http://sghardtruth.com
https://www.facebook.com/SgHardTruth
http://thesinkietimes.wordpress.com
https://www.facebook.com/contactsingapore
http://sgsilentmajority.blogspot.com
http://sggeneralelections2016.blogspot.com
https://zhunbosingapore.wordpress.com
https://www.facebook.com/ZhunBoSG
https://balancingthesentiment.wordpress.com
https://www.facebook.com/SingaporeMatters
http://www.lovelysingapore.org
https://halfjapanesehalfsingaporean.wordpress.com
https://www.facebook.com/squeaky.hammer
http://thesingaporebeacon.com
http://tellhosaybo.blogspot.com

 

[ahsoo]

Hopefully, they are smart enough to know which are the PAP IB sites.

I have provided a list of my own.

https://www.facebook.com/LabourMovementSingapore
https://www.facebook.com/FiveStarsAndAMoon
https://www.facebook.com/singaporeconscience
https://www.facebook.com/FabricationsAboutThePAP
https://www.facebook.com/fabflop
http://www.youtube.com/user/singaporeroar
http://www.fivestarsandamoon.com
https://www.facebook.com/shutdowntrs
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9PAYsa3wsdEaBkpYg1JlIA (Tiffany loves SG)
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOAg1wCuOqL8ZAtIlVcq7zw (Young NTUC)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4wQPDIJnCw24dEnHg-KJxQ (sgHardTruth)
http://sghardtruth.com
https://www.facebook.com/SgHardTruth
http://thesinkietimes.wordpress.com
https://www.facebook.com/contactsingapore
http://sgsilentmajority.blogspot.com
http://sggeneralelections2016.blogspot.com
https://zhunbosingapore.wordpress.com
https://www.facebook.com/ZhunBoSG
https://balancingthesentiment.wordpress.com
https://www.facebook.com/SingaporeMatters
http://www.lovelysingapore.org
https://halfjapanesehalfsingaporean.wordpress.com
https://www.facebook.com/squeaky.hammer
http://thesingaporebeacon.com
http://tellhosaybo.blogspot.com

Thanks for the efforts. I only read sammyboy, TR and occasionally Online Citizen. Used to read yawning bread and Luckytan. Unfortunately the former has mellowed down and the later has buried itself.

In fact I also read ZB and ST free online. Need to know the enemies to win a battle.

 

[Lemon]

Punggol East by-election 2013 is a more recent example. Smart opposition supporters will ensure spoilers lose their deposits.

And compared to 23 years ago, today's voters have Internet to rely upon for useful and solid information to help them make their decision.

Not trying to side with either the WP nor the NSP.

Again comparing the PEBE and the MP GRC is not exactly comparing apple with apple.

I watched the press interview video of Hazel's explanation. I actually sympathize with her because she seemed genuinely sad.

It is quite unfair to label the NSP as spoiler because the NSP were in MP GRC first. The WP is the "spoiler" in this instance, to be fair.

 

[GOD IS MY DOG]

Punggol East by-election 2013 is a more recent example. Smart opposition supporters will ensure spoilers lose their deposits.

And compared to 23 years ago, today's voters have Internet to rely upon for useful and solid information to help them make their decision.

but WP already had 40% in GE at Punggol.............at Marine Parade, WP is planning for 2021 elections............they just want to get more votes than NSP this time round.........

 

[ahsoo]

Not trying to side with either the WP nor the NSP.

Again comparing the PEBE and the MP GRC is not exactly comparing apple with apple.

I watched the press interview video of Hazel's explanation. I actually sympathize with her because she seemed genuinely sad.

It is quite unfair to label the NSP as spoiler because the NSP were in MP GRC first. The WP is the "spoiler" in this instance, to be fair.

If WP lost to PAP in Marine Parade 2015, with a margin smaller than votes won by NSP, I am afraid NSP cannot run away from the 'spoiler' perception.

NSP and other opposition parties should consider themselves very lucky WP only decided to contest 28 seats, which allow other parties to have a fair share of one-to-one fight. Imagine WP goes all out to contest 60 seats, which I believe they can if they want, there will be many three-corner fights and casualties among the oppositions.

A side note: I really hope WP to contest in Pasir Ris. SDA has zero hope of winning and at most they will collect 35 % of vote cast. They will thus help to improve the overall vote percentage of PAP.

 

[Ralders]

no hair botak.
ai suck cock mai.
pap gao

but WP already had 40% in GE at Punggol.............at Marine Parade, WP is planning for 2021 elections............they just want to get more votes than NSP this time round.........

 

[JohnTan]

Not trying to side with either the WP nor the NSP.

Again comparing the PEBE and the MP GRC is not exactly comparing apple with apple.

I watched the press interview video of Hazel's explanation. I actually sympathize with her because she seemed genuinely sad.

It is quite unfair to label the NSP as spoiler because the NSP were in MP GRC first. The WP is the "spoiler" in this instance, to be fair.

I have not seen NSP do much grassroots work in MP GRC. It is quite ludicrous to label MP GRC as "NSP territory". Handing out fliers and selling party papers on weekends is not counted, since by that sort of logic, that would make MP GRC the territory of any insurance agent or tissue paper seller. By the same argument, Aljunied is not just WP territory. There is no law against NSP or SDA setting up their own grassroots groups, doing charity there and contesting in Aljunied GRC.

The other opposition groups are more than welcome to challenge the duds who ran Aljunied town council into the ground and replace them. Why not SDP or SDA move into Aljunied GRC? They are bragging often enough about their plans for running a town council, even though they both have not run one before (forget about Ling How Doong and Cheo Chai Chen losers).

 

[Lemon]

I have not seen NSP do much grassroots work in MP GRC. It is quite ludicrous to label MP GRC as "NSP territory". Handing out fliers and selling party papers on weekends is not counted, since by that sort of logic, that would make MP GRC the territory of any insurance agent or tissue paper seller. By the same argument, Aljunied is not just WP territory. There is no law against NSP or SDA setting up their own grassroots groups, doing charity there and contesting in Aljunied GRC.

The other opposition groups are more than welcome to challenge the duds who ran Aljunied town council into the ground and replace them. Why not SDP or SDA move into Aljunied GRC? They are bragging often enough about their plans for running a town council, even though they both have not run one before (forget about Ling How Doong and Cheo Chai Chen losers).

In 2011, NSP contested in MP GRC, that was what I meant by the NSP were there first. The WP did not contest there in 2011.

 

[sleaguepunter]

1992 was twenty three years ago. A baby born in 1992 would be 23 years old now. How to compare old data and now like that. Does not make sense at all.

23 years ago, the baby old man still around. most children kenna indoctrination from parents. A anti pap family will generally produce anti papig children.

 

[Sideswipe]

think NSP will eventually face reality and back down. the mighty WP is going to reduce NSP's votes to less than 5%. the NSP should just consolidate their resources on 2 or 3 GRCs. what matters is winning a seat, not contest how many seats.

 

[JohnTan]

In 2011, NSP contested in MP GRC, that was what I meant by the NSP were there first. The WP did not contest there in 2011.

Contesting there first does not mean that the other opposition parties are legally or morally obligated to stay out.

 

[3_M]

When there is an obvious opposition front runner, it not difficult for opposition voters to vote tactically. Moreover nsp doesn't has any unique selling point that set them apart from WP. They can perhaps only get the votes from those insignificant but extreme hardcore who are unhappy with WP so called 'silence' in parliament. These voters will likely spoil their votes in a 2cf involving WP anyway.

 

[Lemon]

Contesting there first does not mean that the other opposition parties are legally or morally obligated to stay out.

Well, nobody is saying who can or cannot contest in MP GRC.

The issue here is that the NSP is being labelled as a "spoiler" if they do not withdraw i.e. if they decide to stay in the contest in MP GRC together with the WP and the PAP.

 

[Wunderfool]

think NSP will eventually face reality and back down. the mighty WP is going to reduce NSP's votes to less than 5%. the NSP should just consolidate their resources on 2 or 3 GRCs. what matters is winning a seat, not contest how many seats.

No man ! May the Best Loser Win !

 

[commoner]

like someone said, sdp was there 1992, so sfp shld have a say?

contest to win, not to make up numbers when theres a better team,,,,

if anyone can form a better team, please blast SDA/RP into oblivion,,,,,

quality and quantity of oppo are getting better, so those "perceived" to be spoilers in 3 corner fight, STAY AWAY

 

[3_M]

think NSP will eventually face reality and back down. the mighty WP is going to reduce NSP's votes to less than 5%. the NSP should just consolidate their resources on 2 or 3 GRCs. what matters is winning a seat, not contest how many seats.

I agree minor parties shouldn't get too overly ambitious and should instead consolidate their resources in a handful of electoral divisions. In such way it enhance their odds of winning. Opposition parties should know their relevance in politics lies in parliamentary presences and not how many wards they manage to chope. Contesting without winning is just simply not good enough.

 

[ahsoo]

NSP Vice President Yip Yew Weng, never heard him criticizing government policy but during election time, he will come out and 'chopped' a place, frequently helping the PAP to get an easy win:

2011 -- Radin Mas -- Lost to PAP Tan Chin Siong (32.9% against 67.1%)

2006 -- Yio Chu Kang -- Lost to PAP Seng Han Thong ( 31.72% against 68.28%)

2001 -- Tampines GRC -- Lost to PAP (26.66% against 73.34%)

1997 -- Chua Chu Kang -- Four-corner fight, lost to PAP (22.07% against 61.92%)

I wonder what is he doing in NSP and why NSP elect such caliber to be their VP?