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Serious Young Precious Dies from Mysterious Inflammation from Covid19

Leongsam

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It's kawasaki disease and there is yet no proven link to Covid-19 it's all just the usual speculation.
 

sweetiepie

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It's as deadly as flu is and we don't shut down the country because of flu.
KNN my uncle already said covid19 spreads at a much higher rate and take lifes away easily for anyone with any abnormalities in their body regardless of age (which can be anyone that seems healthy otherwise) KNN this is not acceptable to compare with flu that doesn't spread as easily KNN and again with such a mysterious deadly virus what's the fucking point to worry about the economy and goals in life KNN
 

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KNN my uncle already said covid19 spreads at a much higher rate and take lifes away easily for anyone with any abnormalities in their body regardless of age (which can be anyone that seems healthy otherwise) KNN this is not acceptable to compare with flu that doesn't spread as easily KNN and again with such a mysterious deadly virus what's the fucking point to worry about the economy and goals in life KNN

Flu kills more people every year than Covid-19 ever will.
 

Leongsam

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It was the hospitals cannot cope with too many people getting sick at the same time overwhelmed the hospitals.

U twit...

Same thing happens with bad flu years too but again I do not recall any lockdowns.

Hospitals Overwhelmed by Flu Patients Are Treating Them in Tents


Here's Why the Flu Is Especially Bad This Year

January 18, 2018 2:28 PM EST


The 2017-2018 influenza epidemic is sending people to hospitals and urgent-care centers in every state, and medical centers are responding with extraordinary measures: asking staff to work overtime, setting up triage tents, restricting friends and family visits and canceling elective surgeries, to name a few.

“We are pretty much at capacity, and the volume is certainly different from previous flu seasons,” says Dr. Alfred Tallia, professor and chair of family medicine at the Robert Wood Johnson Medical Center in New Brunswick, New Jersey. “I’ve been in practice for 30 years, and it’s been a good 15 or 20 years since I’ve seen a flu-related illness scenario like we’ve had this year.”

Tallia says his hospital is “managing, but just barely,” at keeping up with the increased number of sick patients in the last three weeks. The hospital’s urgent-care centers have also been inundated, and its outpatient clinics have no appointments available.

MORE: Here’s Why the Flu Is Especially Bad This Year



The story is similar in Alabama, which declared a state of emergency last week in response to the flu epidemic. Dr. Bernard Camins, associate professor of infectious diseases at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, says that UAB Hospital cancelled elective surgeries scheduled for Thursday and Friday of last week to make more beds available to flu patients.

“We had to treat patients in places where we normally wouldn’t, like in recovery rooms,” says Camins. “The emergency room was very crowded, both with sick patients who needed to be admitted and patients who just needed to be seen and given Tamiflu.”

In California, which has been particularly hard hit by this season’s flu, several hospitals have set up large “surge tents” outside their emergency departments to accommodate and treat flu patients. Even then, the LA Times reported this week, emergency departments had standing-room only, and some patients had to be treated in hallways.

The Lehigh Valley Health System in Allentown, Pennsylvania, set up a similar surge tent in its parking lot on Monday, in response to an increase in patients presenting with various viral illnesses, including norovirus, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) and the flu. “We’ve put it into operation a couples times now over the last few days,” said a hospital spokesperson. “I think Tuesday we saw upwards of about 40 people in the tent itself.”
 

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No lockdown in 1957 even though almost 70,000 died in the USA.

britannica.com

1957 flu pandemic | Cause, History, Deaths, & Facts


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Alternative Titles: Asian flu of 1957, Asian flu pandemic of 1957

1957 flu pandemic, also called Asian flu pandemic of 1957 or Asian flu of 1957, outbreak of influenza that was first identified in February 1957 in East Asia and that subsequently spread to countries worldwide. The 1957 flu pandemic was the second major influenza pandemic to occur in the 20th century; it followed the influenza pandemic of 1918–19 and preceded the 1968 flu pandemic. The 1957 flu outbreak caused an estimated one million to two million deaths worldwide and is generally considered to have been the least severe of the three influenza pandemics of the 20th century.
Where did the 1957 flu pandemic originate?
How many deaths were caused by the 1957 flu pandemic?
How did the 1957 flu pandemic impact flu vaccine development?
Why did the 1957 flu cause some people to become more ill than others?

The 1957 outbreak was caused by a virus known as influenza A subtype H2N2. Research has indicated that this virus was a reassortant (mixed species) strain, originating from strains of avian influenza and human influenza viruses. In the 1960s the human H2N2 strain underwent a series of minor genetic modifications, a process known as antigenic drift. These slight modifications produced periodic epidemics. After 10 years of evolution, the 1957 flu virus disappeared, having been replaced through antigenic shift by a new influenza A subtype, H3N2, which gave rise to the 1968 flu pandemic.

In the first months of the 1957 flu pandemic, the virus spread throughout China and surrounding regions. By midsummer it had reached the United States, where it appears to have initially infected relatively few people. Several months later, however, numerous cases of infection were reported, especially in young children, the elderly, and pregnant women. This upsurge in cases was the result of a second pandemic wave of illness that struck the Northern Hemisphere in November 1957. At that time the pandemic was also already widespread in the United Kingdom. By December a total of some 3,550 deaths had been reported in England and Wales. The second wave was particularly devastating, and by March 1958 an estimated 69,800 deaths had occurred in the United States.

Similar to the 1968 flu pandemic, the 1957 outbreak was associated with variation in susceptibility and course of illness. Whereas some infected individuals experienced only minor symptoms, such as cough and mild fever, others experienced life-threatening complications such as pneumonia. Those persons who were unaffected by the virus were believed to have possessed protective antibodies to other, closely related strains of influenza. The rapid development of a vaccine against the H2N2 virus and the availability of antibiotics to treat secondary infections limited the spread and mortality of the pandemic.
 

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nbcnews.com

A record number of children died of flu this season


3-4 minutes


A record number of children died from influenza this past flu season, federal health officials said Friday.

One more death was reported this week, making 172 child deaths reported for the 2017-18 flu season, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said.

“This number exceeds the 2012-2013 season, which previously set the record for the highest number of flu-related deaths in children reported during a single flu season (excluding pandemics),” the CDC said.

“Approximately 80 percent of these deaths occurred in children who had not received a flu vaccination this season.”

By any measure, this past flu season was a severe one, the CDC said. Flu activity stayed high in all 50 states, or nearly all, for weeks on end — an unusual pattern. Usually, the annual flu epidemic moves from region to region.

“CDC experts have described the 2017-2018 season as a high severity season, with influenza-like-illness remaining at or above baseline for 19 consecutive weeks,
record-breaking flu hospitalization rates, and elevated pneumonia and influenza mortality for 16 weeks,” the CDC said.

It hit kids especially hard.

Last season, 110 children died from flu in the U.S. In the 2009 pandemic of H1N1 swine flu, that new strain killed 282 children and 358 children in total died from influenza that season.

Every year, influenza kills between 12,000 and 49,000 people and can send more than 700,000 people to the hospital,
the CDC says. Flu kills so many people and puts so many into the hospital that the CDC has stopped counting each one. For adults, mortality is estimated.

“These deaths are a somber reminder of the importance of flu vaccination and the potential seriousness of flu,” the CDC said.

And they are likely an underestimate, as not every single flu death is properly recorded or reported. “As reporting of deaths in children can be delayed, it’s possible that additional flu-related deaths in children during the 2017-2018 season will be reported to CDC,” the agency said.

About half the children who died had another health condition, but half did not. “Most children died within seven days of symptom onset,” the CDC said.

It’s not clear why this past influenza season was so severe. The strains that were circulating were not new or unusual. While the flu vaccines that were available were not highly effective — giving about 36 percent protection against infection, the CDC said they did save lives.

“During the 2016–17 season, vaccination averted an estimated 5.29 million illnesses 2.64 million medical visits, and 84,700 influenza-associated hospitalizations,” the CDC said.

“Annual influenza vaccination remains the most effective way to prevent influenza illness.”
 

mojito

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The world followed China

Partly because WHO praised China.

China and WHO the two biggest fuckers in the world.
WHO also praise Singapore gold standard, Vivian go CNBC interview PR offensive. All major news outlets bowed in submission say their countries cannot hope to emulate our brilliance. What happened now? :confused:
 

LordElrond

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A sincere plea to Sam Leong: Please stick to writing about the benefits of cycling, even if it means posting ugly pictures of haggard old nudes riding bike. You are really not gaining any following in your opinion about viruses.
 

nightsafari

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nbcnews.com

A record number of children died of flu this season


3-4 minutes


A record number of children died from influenza this past flu season, federal health officials said Friday.

One more death was reported this week, making 172 child deaths reported for the 2017-18 flu season, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said.

“This number exceeds the 2012-2013 season, which previously set the record for the highest number of flu-related deaths in children reported during a single flu season (excluding pandemics),” the CDC said.

“Approximately 80 percent of these deaths occurred in children who had not received a flu vaccination this season.”

By any measure, this past flu season was a severe one, the CDC said. Flu activity stayed high in all 50 states, or nearly all, for weeks on end — an unusual pattern. Usually, the annual flu epidemic moves from region to region.

“CDC experts have described the 2017-2018 season as a high severity season, with influenza-like-illness remaining at or above baseline for 19 consecutive weeks,
record-breaking flu hospitalization rates, and elevated pneumonia and influenza mortality for 16 weeks,” the CDC said.

It hit kids especially hard.

Last season, 110 children died from flu in the U.S. In the 2009 pandemic of H1N1 swine flu, that new strain killed 282 children and 358 children in total died from influenza that season.

Every year, influenza kills between 12,000 and 49,000 people and can send more than 700,000 people to the hospital,
the CDC says. Flu kills so many people and puts so many into the hospital that the CDC has stopped counting each one. For adults, mortality is estimated.

“These deaths are a somber reminder of the importance of flu vaccination and the potential seriousness of flu,” the CDC said.

And they are likely an underestimate, as not every single flu death is properly recorded or reported. “As reporting of deaths in children can be delayed, it’s possible that additional flu-related deaths in children during the 2017-2018 season will be reported to CDC,” the agency said.

About half the children who died had another health condition, but half did not. “Most children died within seven days of symptom onset,” the CDC said.

It’s not clear why this past influenza season was so severe. The strains that were circulating were not new or unusual. While the flu vaccines that were available were not highly effective — giving about 36 percent protection against infection, the CDC said they did save lives.

“During the 2016–17 season, vaccination averted an estimated 5.29 million illnesses 2.64 million medical visits, and 84,700 influenza-associated hospitalizations,” the CDC said.

“Annual influenza vaccination remains the most effective way to prevent influenza illness.”
really got to hand it to you. I would've given up long ago. :thumbsup::notworthy::notworthy:
 

nightsafari

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A sincere plea to Sam Leong: Please stick to writing about the benefits of cycling, even if it means posting ugly pictures of haggard old nudes riding bike. You are really not gaining any following in your opinion about viruses.
hey... some of his pics of nudes riding bikes is not bad leh... :sneaky: :whistling:
 

Leongsam

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For fucksake, you are not an expert on virus so stop downplaying the virus like dotard trump. You only make a fool of yourself.

I have never claimed to be an expert. Neither am I suggesting treatments or pretending to have a solution to the pandemic but I'm just as eager as everyone else to find out just how serious it is. However whenever I do some research I find flu numbers and mortality rates which are just as terrifying.

I'm not against lockdowns if they really are necessary. However I keep finding high flu fatalities that did not result in lockdowns so I'm trying to find a threshold figure that justifies destroying an economy to save lives.

Nobody disputes the fact that flu causes tens of thousands of deaths annually in countries like the USA and the UK but life goes on and planes, trains and restaurants are packed to bursting point. So let's say a disease comes along with 1.5x the mortality rate does that trigger a lockdown? If the answer is "no" then how about 2x?

Wouldn't it be more logical to allow the young their freedom since their mortality rate is extremely low and just protect the elderly who are at far higher risk?

You can do the sums yourself and I'm sure you'll be asking the same questions. You can't pause the economy like you pause a video and just carry on from where you left off when it is convenient. There are people who are in deep trouble both financially, physically and mentally. Lockdowns have consequences that can be far reaching and permanent.
 
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