Chitchat Will China implode in 2017?

[Pinkieslut]

china belongs to taiwan.

Whatever shit happens Sinkieland will still be OK according to Pinky!

 

[winners]

China will control Asia. Period.

It can still grow without exporting to US. Can US grow without exports?

Talk like a child and without using your brain. This can only reflect poorly upon yourself. I know you are in desperate need to garner support for the Chinks, but at least substantiate your argument with facts and statistics to be credible. Otherwise, you are just making a fool of yourself here....yawn.

 

[Reddog]

Will China fail ?
Will Chinese fail ?

Chinese is China.

 

[Asterix]

Ang Moh is da best lah .......... romantic London part II ............ make American Great Again with coal ........... do-do-donora my my my delilah .......... all these Chinks are so smart to inhale opium instead of sulphates .......... bwahahahahaha ............ funny or not?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Donora_smog

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delilah

[video=youtube;65KZXt1q2jM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65KZXt1q2jM[/video]

[video=youtube;4IXP_RkALJs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IXP_RkALJs[/video]

 

[Asterix]

Talk like a child and without using your brain. This can only reflect poorly upon yourself. I know you are in desperate need to garner support for the Chinks, but at least substantiate your argument with facts and statistics to be credible. Otherwise, you are just making a fool of yourself here....yawn.

And you call yourself winner when you can't even google to get the facts and figures that are readily available to anyone who understands Engrish?

Some of the key statistics are here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_China

To summarise, UArseA gets 19.9% of its imports from China. China's total trade in 2013 with Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Germany and Australia is in aggregate twice that of its total trade in that year with UArseA.

China will suffer some pain from a trade war with America but it will not be life threatening and her growth path will resume in short order. Implode? Fat hopes, just part of Ang Moh dream for lost glory. Dream on while the rest of the world moves ahead.

 

[greedy and cunning]

Talk like a child and without using your brain. This can only reflect poorly upon yourself. I know you are in desperate need to garner support for the Chinks, but at least substantiate your argument with facts and statistics to be credible. Otherwise, you are just making a fool of yourself here....yawn.

great admonishment
proof that your brain is far superior.
all favorable opinions about china can only come
from someone desperate to garner support for the chinks.
they speaking like a fool.

 

[frenchbriefs]

china fall?lmao.......chinese companies are all over the world buying up companies and absorbing it into chinese entity,like wanda.
the only way china will fall at this point is if the whole world implodes.

all you idiots better prepare to assimilate.We are the borg.Prepare for assimilation.Resistance is futile.

Lower your shields and surrender ur ships.we will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own.your culture will adapt to serve us.Resistance is futile.

[video=youtube;WZEJ4OJTgg8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZEJ4OJTgg8[/video]

 

[scroobal]

China will continue to grow for years and decades to come as they have the largest and cheapest labour supply in the World. They will continue to be the factory for the World. The 1st World will continue to innovate and get China to build, assemble and ship the finished products back to their consumers and rest of the World. What the 1st world as well as the rest of the World are keen to see is a stable China to ensure that their production lines are not disrupted and there is no better entity than the Chinese Communist Party and its mechanism of control. No other country in the World can provide that level of stability. Its in everyone including the US interest to see the CCP in full control.

There are however some core issues that China faces

China main big issue is that their continued trade surpluses are screwing their currency and they cannot keep it artificially undervalued for so long. It is for this very reason that Chinese businesses and businessmen are constantly sending their wealth abroad both legally and illegally. There are incidents such as in Canada and Australia where low profile commercial properties are bought at twice or three times their valuation even though there is no reason or sight of a competitive bid. It shows a sign of desperation to conclude a deal or any deal where wealth in Chinese currency is converted to a more reliable currency or properties or even luxury items outside China. In essence Chinese nationals do not feel safe leaving their wealth in China. The irony is that even their own Govt feel much safer to hold much of their sovereign wealth in US investments instruments.

China's second issue is that their reputation when it comes to overseas investment and seeding of infrastructure for 3rd World countries is in tatters. The backlash from locals are getting louder and louder and last week they were had to close operations in Mozambique due to locals revolting. Remember we had to ship an entire batch of trains to the factory.

Third big issue is the loss of highly talented young Chinese who have gone to the best schools and colleges in the 1st World country and are no longer prepared to return. They have achieved high academic standards and have been absorbed or attracted into R&D and top businesses in their adopted countries. These are the ones that will help continue the cycle of innovation in the 1st World country which they have been adopted into.

Unless China develops a roadmap like the Japanese who did it in the 50s to innovate locally they will continue to be the factory for the World. Then again it is so much easier to copy and counterfeit and like opium addiction under the British the counterfeit addiction will curtail any motivation to innovate.

By the way one becomes the largest economy in the World not because of brains but because of the sheer size of the population. When 2 people do a commercial transaction such a buying a kg of rice - housewife buying from a corner shop owner, that impacts the economy. Imagine a billion people transacting.

 

[winners]

And you call yourself winner when you can't even google to get the facts and figures that are readily available to anyone who understands Engrish?

Some of the key statistics are here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_China

To summarise, UArseA gets 19.9% of its imports from China. China's total trade in 2013 with Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Germany and Australia is in aggregate twice that of its total trade in that year with UArseA.

China will suffer some pain from a trade war with America but it will not be life threatening and her growth path will resume in short order. Implode? Fat hopes, just part of Ang Moh dream for lost glory. Dream on while the rest of the world moves ahead.

Hey lesbian. And your point is?

 

[Pinkieslut]

Japan? You must be clueless. Japan's innovation is laughable at best.

It is mostly just stealing and copying (like what China did), then refined the quality and costs through sheer military like work conditions (no different from China and South Korea). In fact US government blatantly did free technology transfers and gave it the most favorable trade conditions in order to built the country up quickly.

US was damn worry Japan might collapse and fall into communism like many parts of Asia. That is the reason why US kept most of the world time elites who till today continue to revise the WW2 atrocities.

Most of the Japan's effort to catch up on internet platform has failed. Rakuten has an internet stuck in mid 90s look. Line is started by Koreans. Even SoftBank CEO is a Korean.

Japan products now only have market in matured economies like HK, Singapore, Taiwan (Japanophile country), Western Europe and US where the Japan brand name still have cache.

Finally their last industry pillar is the car industry which I foreee in the next decade will be overrun by new startups in China and US (similar to Tesla) and German stalwarts.

 

[scroobal]

Take Uniqlo as an example. This Japanese company designs the clothes, have it manufactured in Chinese factories and sells it to the World. They are laughing all the way to the Bank. Yes, laughable.

Japan? You must be clueless. Japan's innovation is laughable at best.

It is mostly just stealing and copying (like what China did), then refined the quality and costs through sheer military like work conditions (no different from China and South Korea). In fact US government blatantly did free technology transfers and gave it the most favorable trade conditions in order to built the country up quickly.

US was damn worry Japan might collapse and fall into communism like many parts of Asia. That is the reason why US kept most of the world time elites who till today continue to revise the WW2 atrocities.

Most of the Japan's effort to catch up on internet platform has failed. Rakuten has an internet stuck in mid 90s look. Line is started by Koreans. Even SoftBank CEO is a Korean.

Japan products now only have market in matured economies like HK, Singapore, Taiwan (Japanophile country), Western Europe and US where the Japan brand name still have cache.

Finally their last industry pillar is the car industry which I foreee in the next decade will be overrun by new startups in China and US (similar to Tesla) and German stalwarts.

 

[frenchbriefs]

Take Uniqlo as an example. This Japanese company designs the clothes, have it manufactured in Chinese factories and sells it to the World. They are laughing all the way to the Bank. Yes, laughable.

who cares?im buying shit from taobao and alibaba and selling it on ebay and carousell to sinkies too and laughing all the way to the bank.without china,japan will commit seppuku.

 

[scroobal]

Take South Korea, they began in the 90s when the Japanese economy started to slide and now look where they are now. Look at Taiwan and the Bike industry. They were a manufacturing hubbub now their factories are in China. They hold patents on injection moulding that are highly valued.

Singapore was also a high end manufacturing hub but failed to innovate. We are now too expensive for manufacturing and we are now into casinos and more laundering.

 

[eatshitndie]

who cares?im buying shit from taobao and alibaba and selling it on ebay and carousell to sinkies too and laughing all the way to the bank.without china,japan will commit seppuku.

moreover there's nothing unique about uniqlo. the only useful trait is that they design their cut and sizes to fit asian or basically jap physiques. americans who are typically huge skip the joint. some europeans and latinos will patronize the place as they are typically slimmer. they copy down jackets from the west and add some jap touch, but they're essentially down wear i used to wear a long time ago before there was a uniqlo. they copy linen shirts from the french, add color for variety, and sell a shirt for usd29.99. in a french shop in menton it will be usd69. they copy the v-neck "airism" t's from apt, a brand i buy at kohl's. they simply claim they did "extensive" research to derive the material and design. more like research about others' products, copy them, improve a little, tailor the cut for asians, and mass produce them in china to reduce cost. everyone else like gap, banana republic, a&f, old navy, hollister, etc. are using the same formula. there's nothing innovative about that. it's just a business best practice with good targeted marketing.

 

[frenchbriefs]

Take South Korea, they began in the 90s when the Japanese economy started to slide and now look where they are now. Look at Taiwan and the Bike industry. They were a manufacturing hubbub now their factories are in China. They hold patents on injection moulding that are highly valued.

Singapore was also a high end manufacturing hub but failed to innovate. We are now too expensive for manufacturing and we are now into casinos and more laundering.

For most part of 20th century,Korea was lagging behind their Asian counterparts.they only managed to achieve 20k GDP per capital recently in the last ten years.this shows the key to every Asian country success is electronics,from phones to hand held consoles to Gameboys to PlayStation s.something to do with our finger dexterity and our innate ability for maths.and the fact we acquaint our young with electronic devices.

 

[tanwahtiu]

Japanese are fierce warlords that even the angmohs cannot colonized them. Jap fought the British empire drug trade in Japan doorstep and angmoh concede defeat. Japan went on to protect Taiwan and Korea from British empire drug trade too.

Watch the movie Shogun to see Jap slaughtered angmohs to the ground. The Jap even stop white Christian from corrupt the Jap.

Because Jap was not drugged the angmohs used them to be on their side against China. There will be a final invasion of China once China is total bankrupt unable to build modern gunboats and WMD to defend the invasion.

Therefore to standby for final assult invasion of China the angmohs have to provide WMD technology transfer to the Jap and also build military bases and ports in Japan soil. This was how Jap lead China in angmoh industrial revolution and rise up to be no.2 economy after US.

It was after the 2 nuke bombs that turned Japan into dust and a poor nation. Jap learn a hard lesson that going to war cost money and goes bankrupt if defeated.

After surrender the Jap turned to copy angmoh new technology. Poor people copy and what can they do. But Jap copy the technology faster and rise up from the ash and soon create their inventions and soon take over the manufacturing industry.

Manufacturing is king and Japan become king a weathly nation back from ash.

Today Japanese are top in material engineering and produced top quality car parts and control the car industry also most metal and plastic industries. Today Japanese hv moved to medical equipment industry and still top in making good quality medical equipment products.

Tesla cars are just toying with codings to make driverless cars but come to car parts materials they hv to buy from OEM Jap. Angmoh think toying with computer codings means they lead the innovation, my foot.

Japan still lead in computer codings under Ruby program. Ruby program is stable and most Jap coys use Ruby codings and program for new products.

Whereas Google keep flip flop changed codings like change underwear. Now Google is toying new codings and call it Nougat. And Android coding become more messy adding new program where they always says are more powerful. What is this Git program under Android?

So saying Japan will be swallowed by China is unlikely. War with Japan is costly and bankrupt the nation and lesson well learnt war don't come cheap. Still prefer Jap sucked their own cocks and remain trading partners.

Then Jap return 2 nuke bombs to UArseA to settle this score. Give UArseA a taste of their own nuke bombs viruses.

Japan? You must be clueless. Japan's innovation is laughable at best.

It is mostly just stealing and copying (like what China did), then refined the quality and costs through sheer military like work conditions (no different from China and South Korea). In fact US government blatantly did free technology transfers and gave it the most favorable trade conditions in order to built the country up quickly.

US was damn worry Japan might collapse and fall into communism like many parts of Asia. That is the reason why US kept most of the world time elites who till today continue to revise the WW2 atrocities.

Most of the Japan's effort to catch up on internet platform has failed. Rakuten has an internet stuck in mid 90s look. Line is started by Koreans. Even SoftBank CEO is a Korean.

Japan products now only have market in matured economies like HK, Singapore, Taiwan (Japanophile country), Western Europe and US where the Japan brand name still have cache.

Finally their last industry pillar is the car industry which I foreee in the next decade will be overrun by new startups in China and US (similar to Tesla) and German stalwarts.

 

[Pinkieslut]

Take Uniqlo as an example. This Japanese company designs the clothes, have it manufactured in Chinese factories and sells it to the World. They are laughing all the way to the Bank. Yes, laughable.

Uniqlo style business is not going to benefit majority of Japanese or Japan nation. Only the Boss benefit and he will be the 1%. Think about that!

Inditex the Spanish company is also the top 1 or 2 clothing company with brands like Zara. Da Boss is one of the top tycoon in the world. But look at his home town Spain. Totally bankrupt with high unemployment, girls and boys have to prostitute themselves to holiday makers from Europe (sun sand sea and sex the only commodity now useful in Spain). In fact Spain is number 2 in terms of Gross Prostitution Revenue (YES, higher than Thailand or India), numbeer 1 is China (sheer population size compared to Spain).

All these companies manufacture their products in China, or have to use Chinese middle man (HKies, Taiwanese, Chinese) to run their backend manufacturing operations and supply chain.

 

[tanwahtiu]

China will return as a celestial kingdom of the Far East for many centuries to come.

Then organise the Yellow Peril drugging the west with Chinese drugs x100 more powerful than opium. Angmoh loved Chinese pussies and can start robotic China doll pussies for self extinct angmoh race.

China will continue to grow for years and decades to come as they have the largest and cheapest labour supply in the World. They will continue to be the factory for the World. The 1st World will continue to innovate and get China to build, assemble and ship the finished products back to their consumers and rest of the World. What the 1st world as well as the rest of the World are keen to see is a stable China to ensure that their production lines are not disrupted and there is no better entity than the Chinese Communist Party and its mechanism of control. No other country in the World can provide that level of stability. Its in everyone including the US interest to see the CCP in full control.

There are however some core issues that China faces

China main big issue is that their continued trade surpluses are screwing their currency and they cannot keep it artificially undervalued for so long. It is for this very reason that Chinese businesses and businessmen are constantly sending their wealth abroad both legally and illegally. There are incidents such as in Canada and Australia where low profile commercial properties are bought at twice or three times their valuation even though there is no reason or sight of a competitive bid. It shows a sign of desperation to conclude a deal or any deal where wealth in Chinese currency is converted to a more reliable currency or properties or even luxury items outside China. In essence Chinese nationals do not feel safe leaving their wealth in China. The irony is that even their own Govt feel much safer to hold much of their sovereign wealth in US investments instruments.

China's second issue is that their reputation when it comes to overseas investment and seeding of infrastructure for 3rd World countries is in tatters. The backlash from locals are getting louder and louder and last week they were had to close operations in Mozambique due to locals revolting. Remember we had to ship an entire batch of trains to the factory.

Third big issue is the loss of highly talented young Chinese who have gone to the best schools and colleges in the 1st World country and are no longer prepared to return. They have achieved high academic standards and have been absorbed or attracted into R&D and top businesses in their adopted countries. These are the ones that will help continue the cycle of innovation in the 1st World country which they have been adopted into.

Unless China develops a roadmap like the Japanese who did it in the 50s to innovate locally they will continue to be the factory for the World. Then again it is so much easier to copy and counterfeit and like opium addiction under the British the counterfeit addiction will curtail any motivation to innovate.

By the way one becomes the largest economy in the World not because of brains but because of the sheer size of the population. When 2 people do a commercial transaction such a buying a kg of rice - housewife buying from a corner shop owner, that impacts the economy. Imagine a billion people transacting.

 

[Pinkieslut]

You must be brainwashed Japanophile.

No one (especially China) wants to swallow Japan. Japan is a bloody resource-less cuntry, overpopulation with rice fed people who are descendants of immigrants from China and Korea.

Japan "unique" material and aesthetic culture is from the fact they are POOR, Yes bloody POOR. So everything must be used to utmost efficiency and care. This was the observation from both Chinese and European visitors in the middle ages.

The Mongol invasions of Japan was done out of the narcissism of the Mongol overlords who want to conquer for the sake of ego. Basically mainland Asia (China and Korea) cannot bother with Japan at all.

Japan later attempts to invade China during Ming Dynasty was because Toyotomi Hideyoshi (Shogun who united the clans in Japan) knows that China is full of wealth and Japan is overpopulated especially with the jobless samurais (since the big civil wars in Japan has ended). After the failed invasion, his clan was overthrew by Tokugawa and they decided to seal the country in with the local daimyo controlling the local populations with strict caste like structures.

Even after the Meiji restoration (which is way more bloody than the 1911 Chinese Revoluton), Japan was still short of resources and overpopulated. In fact it was so poor that during the eve of first Sino-Japan war, 30% of its national revenue was spent on military. It got lucky (because of the incompetent Qing Government) and end up getting something equivalent of 4-5 years of revenue from China as war compensaiton (in addition to Taiwan and Korea).

That solve its problem for a while but then again the country went into turmoil with multiple assassinations including a Prime Minister by military officers and numerous workers riots (lack of rice supplies). The country is so unstable which ultimately push it into the direction of planning to invade China (start with Manchuria then rest of China).

The plan again was very similar to Germany which is to create living space for Japanese. For example in Manchuria, Korea and Taiwan, all the lands was taken over by Japanese government, leaving many landless peasants. Only a thin layer of native collaborators benefitted. The Japanese also move their own people to take over these lands. That is also the key reason for the genocidal and exploitive behaviour Japan has in China, to suck resources and create space for their own settlers.

Imagine during the eve of major conflict with Warlord ridden China, Japan has 60-70 million people, versus China with about 400 million (in which already stagnating due to massive deaths from famines and wars). So you can imagine how overpopulated Japan is. China only bloom into 1BIL people under Mao (in which many accused him of own genocide against Chinese through Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution).

After the war, US was very scared that Japan will be like North Korea or Communist China. So they need to quickly stablized the country which was bombed into nothing. Massive amount of investments and with technology transfers (the need to beef it up to support US' war effort in Korean War). They also need the support from exisiting wartime ruling class (as it would take too long to train another bunch of pro-US technocrats) in this effort.

All the nonsense you heard over the years the many US inventions (recorder tape, transistor electronics) were commercially expoited by Japan are bullshit. They are bascially technology transfer to beef up Japan's economy. Japan is also given such favourable trade conditions that it can have an effectively closed market (only Japanese cars, only Japanese electronics, etc).

However the price is that Japan will be need to be a US dog on leash, as an unsinkable US aircraft carrier in Asia against Soviet Union and CCP China.

Those advantages are now all gone liao. Japan closed market meant that they (by mistake) miss out the open-standards technology business trends, miss out most of the globally connected software platforms, unable to reform its corporate culture, management heavily laden with bunch of old folks with outdated ideas, and totally de-enfranchised youths.

Japan will become like France soon. Still Hao-lian about its cultural superiority, its work culture, and probably end up selling products where the perceived Japanese design and quality still have cache, things like food, clothing and personal care stuff.

Japanese are fierce warlords that even the angmohs cannot colonized them. Jap fought the British empire drug trade in Japan doorstep and angmoh concede defeat. Japan went on to protect Taiwan and Korea from British empire drug trade too.

Watch the movie Shogun to see Jap slaughtered angmohs to the ground. The Jap even stop white Christian from corrupt the Jap.

Because Jap was not drugged the angmohs used them to be on their side against China. There will be a final invasion of China once China is total bankrupt unable to build modern gunboats and WMD to defend the invasion.

Therefore to standby for final assult invasion of China the angmohs have to provide WMD technology transfer to the Jap and also build military bases and ports in Japan soil. This was how Jap lead China in angmoh industrial revolution and rise up to be no.2 economy after US.

It was after the 2 nuke bombs that turned Japan into dust and a poor nation. Jap learn a hard lesson that going to war cost money and goes bankrupt if defeated.

After surrender the Jap turned to copy angmoh new technology. Poor people copy and what can they do. But Jap copy the technology faster and rise up from the ash and soon create their inventions and soon take over the manufacturing industry.

Manufacturing is king and Japan become king a weathly nation back from ash.

Today Japanese are top in material engineering and produced top quality car parts and control the car industry also most metal and plastic industries. Today Japanese hv moved to medical equipment industry and still top in making good quality medical equipment products.

Tesla cars are just toying with codings to make driverless cars but come to car parts materials they hv to buy from OEM Jap. Angmoh think toying with computer codings means they lead the innovation, my foot.

Japan still lead in computer codings under Ruby program. Ruby program is stable and most Jap coys use Ruby codings and program for new products.

Whereas Google keep flip flop changed codings like change underwear. Now Google is toying new codings and call it Nougat. And Android coding become more messy adding new program where they always says are more powerful. What is this Git program under Android?

So saying Japan will be swallowed by China is unlikely. War with Japan is costly and bankrupt the nation and lesson well learnt war don't come cheap. Still prefer Jap sucked their own cocks and remain trading partners.

Then Jap return 2 nuke bombs to UArseA to settle this score. Give UArseA a taste of their own nuke bombs viruses.

 

[Pinkieslut]

And regards to the bloody British. These angmo (including Americans now) always play the divide and conquer rule.

British were selling technology to both Japan and China around the same time. Because UK was worry about dominance of Russia, they supplied intelligence to Japanese which defeated the Russians in the Russo-Japan wars which happened on Chinese territories. Then being worried about Sovet Union supporting China (KMT was later trained and armed by Soviets), the Brits were quite active in providing both intelligence and technology to Imperial Japan.

Brits only stop when Japan launch full scale invasion of Manchuria. They were worried that Japanese might try to take over all of China and Asia (where Brits had many colonies).