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Chitchat Why China has not invaded Taiwan

scroobal

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Huge army, treasury in surplus, has threatened every nation making a claim in the disputed South China Sea, massive investments in Africa, Asia, the Belt initiative, factory of the World etc.

So why has China not invaded the small Island for 70 years?

Let’s the hear the views?
 

democracy my butt

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Chinese were avoiding to spill blood with own siblings. This is question to ask LHL why never arrested all his own famiLEE members.
 

war is best form of peace

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Sun Tze says, if you have to start the fight, you've already lost.


This is absolutely wrong. War is a CONSTANT PHENOMENA & NORM. Losses of lives keeps everything in a healthy balance and thus the universe will last till eternity.

Birth is Yang & Death is Yin, Day is Yang and Night is Yin, War is Yang, & Peace is Yin, Breathing into your lung is Yang & Breathing out is Yin. All must take place TOGETHER & BALANCE.

War must be maintained non-stop & at sufficient scale with sufficient death toll and losses all the time, and rotate to other war zones to overcome peace, in cyclic rotation and periodical characteristic. If there is No War we won't need silly 孙子 and all about him is then REDUNDANT.
 

kryonlight

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I believe because a war with Taiwan would actually impoverish themselves. Two thirds of their trade surplus is with Hong Kong and USA. A war on Taiwan would seriously damage the communist party's international standing.

They are too addicted to the ill-gotten wealth and they are going to pay the price for their predatory trade practices in 2019. It's going to be a triple whammy for China on debt opium: tax cuts by Republicans, Fed rate hikes in 2018 & 2019, and trade actions by Donald Trump. Be prepared for a sudden massive devaluation of the yuan.
 

kkbutterfly

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This is absolutely wrong. War is a CONSTANT PHENOMENA & NORM. Losses of lives keeps everything in a healthy balance and thus the universe will last till eternity.

Birth is Yang & Death is Yin, Day is Yang and Night is Yin, War is Yang, & Peace is Yin, Breathing into your lung is Yang & Breathing out is Yin. All must take place TOGETHER & BALANCE.

War must be maintained non-stop & at sufficient scale with sufficient death toll and losses all the time, and rotate to other war zones to overcome peace, in cyclic rotation and periodical characteristic. If there is No War we won't need silly 孙子 and all about him is then REDUNDANT.

i accept what you said.
 

kryonlight

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This is absolutely wrong. War is a CONSTANT PHENOMENA & NORM. Losses of lives keeps everything in a healthy balance and thus the universe will last till eternity.

Nonsense! The world is actually getting more peaceful. This is all thanks to the great superpower USA keeping belligerent Russia and China in check.

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Birth is Yang & Death is Yin, Day is Yang and Night is Yin, War is Yang, & Peace is Yin, Breathing into your lung is Yang & Breathing out is Yin. All must take place TOGETHER & BALANCE.

What rubbish is this? War is Evil and Peace is Good. The qualities of Good and Evil is not inherent in either Yang or Yin. You have made a major blunder twisting Taoism to your silly interpretation.
 

tun_dr_m

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Nonsense! The world is actually getting more peaceful. This is all thanks to the great superpower USA keeping belligerent Russia and China in check.

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What rubbish is this? War is Evil and Peace is Good. The qualities of Good and Evil is not inherent in either Yang or Yin. You have made a major blunder twisting Taoism to your silly interpretation.



Lack of war that is why planet earth is doomed, and we will get total extinction. The top scientists are already repeatedly warning of doomsday. Where is the whole fucking problem coming from? Peace! Humanity! Security! Freedom! Economy! Consumption + over population! Ruin all resources and turned everything into waste!
 

kryonlight

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Lack of war that is why planet earth is doomed, and we will get total extinction. The top scientists are already repeatedly warning of doomsday. Where is the whole fucking problem coming from? Peace! Humanity! Security! Freedom! Economy! Consumption + over population! Ruin all resources and turned everything into waste!

Relaxlabrudder! There is no World War 3, except maybe for a small war with North Korea in August 2020. The world will become even more peaceful after that with a united Korea.
 

war is best form of peace

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I believe because a war with Taiwan would actually impoverish themselves. Two thirds of their trade surplus is with Hong Kong and USA. A war on Taiwan would seriously damage the communist party's international standing.

They are too addicted to the ill-gotten wealth and they are going to pay the price for their predatory trade practices in 2019. It's going to be a triple whammy for China on debt opium: tax cuts by Republicans, Fed rate hikes in 2018 & 2019, and trade actions by Donald Trump. Be prepared for a sudden massive devaluation of the yuan.


Must destroy all economies because that is the very phenomena of squandering remaining bits of resources on earth, if existence man does not come to the mostly inevitable abrupt ending, then in future all ECONOMIES must be prevented strictly. Only tiny pockets of furthest Isolated human inhibited in primitively natural live styles, and no idea where about are other human colonies or survivors, no communication nor trade allowed to occur. Otherwise the same tragedy & gross mistake will repeated again, all will extinct.
 

Slim_10_Sg

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This is absolutely wrong. War is a CONSTANT PHENOMENA & NORM. Losses of lives keeps everything in a healthy balance and thus the universe will last till eternity.

Birth is Yang & Death is Yin, Day is Yang and Night is Yin, War is Yang, & Peace is Yin, Breathing into your lung is Yang & Breathing out is Yin. All must take place TOGETHER & BALANCE.

War must be maintained non-stop & at sufficient scale with sufficient death toll and losses all the time, and rotate to other war zones to overcome peace, in cyclic rotation and periodical characteristic. If there is No War we won't need silly 孙子 and all about him is then REDUNDANT.


吃饭=阳
拉屎=阴
Must balance and maintain at same time or else live will stop.

I asked my master after learning lesson. This answer is confirmed by master.

One can not keep eating without shitting, too much Yang no Yin, you will die.

Nor one can keep shitting without eating, too much Yin without Yang in this case, you will shit your guts out and die too! Only way to live in balanced of Yin and Yang to stay alive and lasting on. Lost this balance means up lorry.
 
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glockman

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Because of kinship and there's also the small matter of incurring the wrath of the US and the rest of the world. War is never good for everyone.
 
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virus

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no lah.... after all the spies report aka tourists visit, and found it to be as backward as pee sai, they decided to forgo it.
 

JohnTan

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China is not confident of beating the combined military might of US and its pacific allies. There also is a possibility of NATO getting involved too since US is the main NATO member.
 

Think_PAP

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China is not confident of beating the combined military might of US and its pacific allies. There also is a possibility of NATO getting involved too since US is the main NATO member.

China already had sufficient long and bloody proxy wars with USA and allies @ Korean Wars & Vietnam Wars, decades long. US were extremely far from any expected victories. Wanted to use nuke in Korean War too. So the Ang Moh and Beijing both know where their own positions were.

Old Taiwan KMT govt knew how to survive in the gap between east & west, China was under embargo sanctions 100X bigger scale than today's Kim Jong Nuke during those eras. The CCP could take Taiwan but will cost their own losses as much as their commitment in Vietnam Wars. Still they could do it with resolve. In both Korean & Vietnam wars CCP lost millions of warriors which were always OK to the CCP, no problems. Americans can not afford to lost even half of what they lost.

Remember, CCP had only wooden boats when they liberated Hainan Island. They did it. Hainan about same size and population level as Taiwan. The Purple-Blue Island in this map.


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JohnTan

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China already had sufficient long and bloody proxy wars with USA and allies @ Korean Wars & Vietnam Wars, decades long. US were extremely far from any expected victories. Wanted to use nuke in Korean War too. So the Ang Moh and Beijing both know where their own positions were.

Korean and vietnam wars are land wars, which are basically the only type of wars the chinks know how to fight and they usually know. Invading Taiwan would be a real naval war since the american support ships and carriers will be operating in the seas off chinkland's coasts and even from the pacific ocean.

The chinks know jackshit about naval warfare. The only major naval warfare the chinks ever fought in their entire long history was against Japan which they lost badly. Other historical naval warfare in chink history is usually restricted to fighting on rivers and lakes.

Currently, the only current naval military experience the chink navy has is chasing pinoy and viet fishermen from the Spratlys.
 

3_M

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Reunification isn't an urgent priority as China focus is still about economic. As long as status quo stays, China don't see any need to retake the island by force for the next 20 years

Talk about USA coming to the defence of Taiwan, my take is it not very possible.

Think about it this way, if USA don't even dare to touch on North Korea despite the direct nuclear threat on their national security, you think they will take on China for the interests of others?
 

Taksama_b_l

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Reunification isn't an urgent priority as China focus is still about economic. As long as status quo stays, China don't see any need to retake the island by force for the next 20 years

Talk about USA coming to the defence of Taiwan, my take is it not very possible.

Think about it this way, if USA don't even dare to touch on North Korea despite the direct nuclear threat on their national security, you think they will take on China for the interests of others?


Time is now.

The price to do it now is low and the gain is MAXIMUM now. It is a move that prove that USA can no longer play game in Asia Pacific. This gain is tremendous and the most needed thing now. US not able to fix NK is an indicator but not conclusive and convincing. PLA taking Taiwan will have the just necessary effects needed by 1B1R.
 

Taksama_b_l

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Korean and vietnam wars are land wars, which are basically the only type of wars the chinks know how to fight and they usually know. Invading Taiwan would be a real naval war since the american support ships and carriers will be operating in the seas off chinkland's coasts and even from the pacific ocean.

The chinks know jackshit about naval warfare. The only major naval warfare the chinks ever fought in their entire long history was against Japan which they lost badly. Other historical naval warfare in chink history is usually restricted to fighting on rivers and lakes.

Currently, the only current naval military experience the chink navy has is chasing pinoy and viet fishermen from the Spratlys.


Now 7th fleet betrayed Trump's order to hit NK, and fled to Australia. Then kept crashing and dying their own ships, and lost planes into the sea, begging Chinese to help search for corpses. Captains & Fleet Commanders got U R Fired! How to fight?
 

greedy and cunning

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Korean and vietnam wars are land wars, which are basically the only type of wars the chinks know how to fight and they usually know. Invading Taiwan would be a real naval war since the american support ships and carriers will be operating in the seas off chinkland's coasts and even from the pacific ocean.

The chinks know jackshit about naval warfare. The only major naval warfare the chinks ever fought in their entire long history was against Japan which they lost badly. Other historical naval warfare in chink history is usually restricted to fighting on rivers and lakes.

Currently, the only current naval military experience the chink navy has is chasing pinoy and viet fishermen from the Spratlys.

no problem lah.
china can followed what sillypoore did.
get a few of these sampans and china will rule the waves.

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