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No proof 2 vaccine doses make it safe to travel, says minister
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April 5, 2021 3:08 PM
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Dr Adham Baba (left) and Khairy Jamaluddin at the press conference where it was announced that notifications for second phase vaccine recipients will go out today.
PETALING JAYA: There is no “concrete evidence” to prove that it would be safe for people who have been fully vaccinated for Covid-19 to travel interstate and internationally.
Health minister Dr Adham Baba said this today, adding that his team was still studying reports by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as well as the World Health Organization on allowing those who have been vaccinated to travel freely.
He said that a special meeting with the National Security Council had agreed to consider the matter and will make a decision later on.
According to Adham, those who had received both doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine were all frontliners who already had permission to travel interstate.











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Prime Minister Muhyiddin Yassin had previously suggested that Malaysians who had been fully vaccinated be given the green light to cross domestic and international borders, on the condition that they received a certificate of verification to act as an immunity passport.
Adham also revealed that 20 clusters related to the education sector were detected since March, adding that schools with positive cases may be advised to temporarily close after a risk assessment by the district health officers.
Meanwhile, the National Covid-19 Immunisation Programme coordinating minister Khairy Jamaluddin said discussions will be held with the human resources ministry to look into having companies give their foreign employees some time off to attend their vaccination appointments.
“We will either suggest or make it mandatory for companies to give their workers a day off to receive the vaccine,” Khairy said.

Khairy, who is the science, technology and innovation minister, added that the Covid-19 immunisation task force had also proposed that family members be allowed to travel interstate for the purpose of bringing their elderly parents to receive their jabs.
 
So what exactly is the purpose of vaccines???

This is the first disease I've come across where being vaccinated makes no difference whatsoever to the outcomes. All it does is facilitate the transfer of wealth from one party to another with lots of people clipping the ticket in between.
 
But getting vaccinated does provide the excuse to implement a digital vaccination passport. :wink:

Even if the current vaccinations are not effective, there's no stopping Big Pharma from pushing annual booster shots afterwards. So it'll be like updating your phone software every year. :cool:
 
But getting vaccinated does provide the excuse to implement a digital vaccination passport. :wink:

Even if the current vaccinations are not effective, there's no stopping Big Pharma from pushing annual booster shots afterwards. So it'll be like updating your phone software every year. :cool:

Phone updates are FOC.
 
wonder whether if one spouse is vaccinated, the other can get the problems thru sex or close contact.....
fuck these vaccines
 
They need to keep up the image that the Emergency Declaration is still a necessity.
 
No proof 2 vaccine doses make it safe to travel, says minister
Faye Kwan
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April 5, 2021 3:08 PM
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Dr Adham Baba (left) and Khairy Jamaluddin at the press conference where it was announced that notifications for second phase vaccine recipients will go out today.
PETALING JAYA: There is no “concrete evidence” to prove that it would be safe for people who have been fully vaccinated for Covid-19 to travel interstate and internationally.
Health minister Dr Adham Baba said this today, adding that his team was still studying reports by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as well as the World Health Organization on allowing those who have been vaccinated to travel freely.
He said that a special meeting with the National Security Council had agreed to consider the matter and will make a decision later on.
According to Adham, those who had received both doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine were all frontliners who already had permission to travel interstate.











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Prime Minister Muhyiddin Yassin had previously suggested that Malaysians who had been fully vaccinated be given the green light to cross domestic and international borders, on the condition that they received a certificate of verification to act as an immunity passport.
Adham also revealed that 20 clusters related to the education sector were detected since March, adding that schools with positive cases may be advised to temporarily close after a risk assessment by the district health officers.
Meanwhile, the National Covid-19 Immunisation Programme coordinating minister Khairy Jamaluddin said discussions will be held with the human resources ministry to look into having companies give their foreign employees some time off to attend their vaccination appointments.
“We will either suggest or make it mandatory for companies to give their workers a day off to receive the vaccine,” Khairy said.

Khairy, who is the science, technology and innovation minister, added that the Covid-19 immunisation task force had also proposed that family members be allowed to travel interstate for the purpose of bringing their elderly parents to receive their jabs.

US CDC is now telling them its safe. Let them study the reports.
 
The vaccine now...change of tone is to reduce the chance of ppl getting sick and dying n b long hauler etc...tomorrow the story will b something else.

 


I find the logic amusing. If the ppl get 1 shot n 3 months get another shot. Does that mean only after everyone get 2nd shot than they will open the country? By than how many more lives would have been lost due to the economic devastation?
 
Guess the powers tat be wants to stretched out the misery. Than why the vaccine?
Why vaccines aren't enough to control this pandemic
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Variants of concern have made the pandemic harder to control.( AP: David Goldman )
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At the end of 2020, there was a strong hope that high levels of vaccination would see humanity finally gain the upper hand over SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.
In an ideal scenario, the virus would then be contained at very low levels without further societal disruption or significant numbers of deaths.
But since then, new "variants of concern" have emerged and spread worldwide, putting current pandemic control efforts, including vaccination, at risk of being derailed.
Put simply, the game has changed, and a successful global rollout of current vaccines by itself is no longer a guarantee of victory.
No one is truly safe from COVID-19 until everyone is safe. We are in a race against time to get global transmission rates low enough to prevent the emergence and spread of new variants. The danger is that variants will arise that can overcome the immunity conferred by vaccinations or prior infection.
What's more, many countries lack the capacity to track emerging variants via genomic surveillance. This means the situation may be even more serious than it appears.
As members of the Lancet COVID-19 Commission Taskforce on Public Health, we call for urgent action in response to the new variants. These new variants mean we cannot rely on the vaccines alone to provide protection but must maintain strong public health measures to reduce the risk from these variants.
At the same time, we need to accelerate the vaccine program in all countries in an equitable way.
Together, these strategies will deliver "maximum suppression" of the virus.
What are 'variants of concern'?
Genetic mutations of viruses like SARS-CoV-2 emerge frequently, but some variants are labelled "variants of concern", because they can reinfect people who have had a previous infection or vaccination, or are more transmissible or can lead to more severe disease.
There are currently at least three documented SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern:
  • B.1.351, first reported in South Africa in December 2020
  • B.1.1.7, first reported in the United Kingdom in December 2020
  • P.1, first identified in Japan among travellers from Brazil in January 2021.
Soldiers in hazmat suits disinfect the Christ the Redeemer statue using hoses attached to backpacks.
The Brazilian variant has sparked a wave of reinfections in the state of Amazonas. ( AP: Silvia Izquierdo )
Similar mutations are arising in different countries simultaneously, meaning not even border controls and high vaccination rates can necessarily protect countries from home-grown variants, including variants of concern, where there is substantial community transmission.
If there are high transmission levels, and hence extensive replication of SARS-CoV-2, anywhere in the world, more variants of concern will inevitably arise, and the more infectious variants will dominate. With international mobility, these variants will spread.
South Africa's experience suggests that past infection with SARS-CoV-2 offers only partial protection against the B.1.351 variant, and it is about 50 per cent more transmissible than pre-existing variants. The B.1.351 variant has already been detected in at least 48 countries as of March 2021.
The impact of the new variants on the effectiveness of vaccines is still not clear. Recent real-world evidence from the UK suggests both the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines provide significant protection against severe disease and hospitalisations from the B.1.1.7 variant.
On the other hand, the B.1.351 variant seems to reduce the efficacy of the AstraZeneca vaccine against mild to moderate illness. We do not yet have clear evidence on whether it also reduces effectiveness against severe disease.
For these reasons, reducing community transmission is vital. No single action is sufficient to prevent the virus's spread; we must maintain strong public health measures in tandem with vaccination programs in every country.
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Can vaccinated people still transmit the virus?Why we need maximum suppression
Each time the virus replicates, there is an opportunity for a mutation to occur. And as we are already seeing around the world, some of the resulting variants risk eroding the effectiveness of vaccines.
That's why we have called for a global strategy of "maximum suppression".
Public health leaders should focus on efforts that maximally suppress viral infection rates, thus helping to prevent the emergence of mutations that can become new variants of concern.
Prompt vaccine rollouts alone will not be enough to achieve this; continued public health measures, such as face masks and physical distancing, will be vital too. Ventilation of indoor spaces is important, some of which is under people's control, some of which will require adjustments to buildings.
Fair access to vaccines
Global equity in vaccine access is vital too. High-income countries should support multilateral mechanisms such as the COVAX facility, donate excess vaccines to low- and middle- income countries, and support increased vaccine production.
However, to prevent the emergence of viral variants of concern, it may be necessary to prioritise countries or regions with the highest disease prevalence and transmission levels, where the risk of such variants emerging is greatest.
Those with control over health-care resources, services and systems should ensure support is available for health professionals to manage increased hospitalisations over shorter periods during surges without reducing care for non-COVID-19 patients.
Health systems must be better prepared against future variants. Suppression efforts should be accompanied by:
  • genomic surveillance programs to identify and quickly characterise emerging variants in as many countries as possible around the world
  • rapid large-scale "second-generation" vaccine programs and increased production capacity that can support equity in vaccine distribution
  • studies of vaccine effectiveness on existing and new variants of concern
  • explore adapting public health measures (such as double masking) and re-committing to health system arrangements (such as ensuring personal protective equipment for health staff)
  • behavioural, environmental, social and systems interventions, such as enabling ventilation, distancing between people and an effective find, test, trace, isolate and support system.
COVID-19 variants of concern have changed the game. We need to recognise and act on this if we as a global society are to avoid future waves of infections, yet more lockdowns and restrictions, and avoidable illness and death.
Susan Michie is Professor of Health Psychology and Director of the UCL Centre for Behaviour Change, UCL. Chris Bullen is Professor of Public Health, University of Auckland. Jeffrey V Lazarus is Associate Research Professor, Barcelona Institute for Global Health (ISGlobal). John N. Lavis is Professor and Canada Research Chair in Evidence-Informed Health Systems, McMaster University. John Thwaites is Chair, Monash Sustainable Development Institute & ClimateWorks Australia, Monash University. Liam Smith is Director, BehaviourWorks, Monash Sustainable Development Institute, Monash University. Salim Abdool Karim is Director, Centre for the AIDS Program of Research in South Africa (CAPRISA). Yanis Ben Amor is Assistant Professor of Global Health and Microbiological Sciences and Executive Director, Center for Sustainable Development (Earth Institute), Columbia University.
This piece first appeared on The Conversation.

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They have no idea how to control the pandemic so they cling onto any hope including vaccine. Just let the virus take it’s course and take it as an opportunity for nature to weed out the unfit.
 
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