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Who says F-35 is crap

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Source: Israeli F-35 destroyed Chinese-made radar during airstrikes in Syria
Feb 20, 2019

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Last month, an Israeli satellite imagery analysis company ImageSat confirmed that Chinese-made JY-27 radar of the Syrian Air Defense at Damascus airport destroyed by Israeli airstrikes on January 20th.
No airstrike details were given and the quoted ImageSat did also not contain any further information but some source said that radar was destroyed by Israeli F-35i Adir fighter jets.
The source claims that F-35i Adir fighter jet of the Israeli Air Force has destroyed Chinese design JY-27 radar of the Syrian Air Defense near Damascus International Airport on 20 January.



The JY-27 radar of the Chinese manufacturer CETC is a fully solid-state and fully coherent long-range early warning system. It is designed and developed to provide early warning information and detect low-observable air targets in so-called “Stealth technology”, included F-35 and F-22 fighter aircraft. Besides, it provides the early warning information for weapons system as well.
Representatives of the Israeli Air Force refused to comment on this issue.
In fact, the recent raids reveal Israel’s continuing ability to defeat Syrian air defense facilities, but some military experts said that radar was destroyed by the kamikaze-drone.
For reference, F-35I Adir (“Mighty One” in Hebrew) is a modified Lockheed Martin’s F-35 fifth-generation multirole stealth fighter jet of Israel Defense Forces.
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https://twitter.com/ImageSatIntl/status/1087795248762441728
 

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Source: Israeli F-35 destroyed Chinese-made radar during airstrikes in Syria
Feb 20, 2019

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Last month, an Israeli satellite imagery analysis company ImageSat confirmed that Chinese-made JY-27 radar of the Syrian Air Defense at Damascus airport destroyed by Israeli airstrikes on January 20th.
No airstrike details were given and the quoted ImageSat did also not contain any further information but some source said that radar was destroyed by Israeli F-35i Adir fighter jets.
The source claims that F-35i Adir fighter jet of the Israeli Air Force has destroyed Chinese design JY-27 radar of the Syrian Air Defense near Damascus International Airport on 20 January.



The JY-27 radar of the Chinese manufacturer CETC is a fully solid-state and fully coherent long-range early warning system. It is designed and developed to provide early warning information and detect low-observable air targets in so-called “Stealth technology”, included F-35 and F-22 fighter aircraft. Besides, it provides the early warning information for weapons system as well.
Representatives of the Israeli Air Force refused to comment on this issue.
In fact, the recent raids reveal Israel’s continuing ability to defeat Syrian air defense facilities, but some military experts said that radar was destroyed by the kamikaze-drone.
For reference, F-35I Adir (“Mighty One” in Hebrew) is a modified Lockheed Martin’s F-35 fifth-generation multirole stealth fighter jet of Israel Defense Forces.
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Before and after the strike: JY-27 radar in #Damascus #International #Airport, #Syria, 20 January 2019.​
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So you finally agree that USA is best! AMDK the best!
 

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Source: Israeli F-35 destroyed Chinese-made radar during airstrikes in Syria
Feb 20, 2019

in Aviation, News





Last month, an Israeli satellite imagery analysis company ImageSat confirmed that Chinese-made JY-27 radar of the Syrian Air Defense at Damascus airport destroyed by Israeli airstrikes on January 20th.
No airstrike details were given and the quoted ImageSat did also not contain any further information but some source said that radar was destroyed by Israeli F-35i Adir fighter jets.
The source claims that F-35i Adir fighter jet of the Israeli Air Force has destroyed Chinese design JY-27 radar of the Syrian Air Defense near Damascus International Airport on 20 January.



The JY-27 radar of the Chinese manufacturer CETC is a fully solid-state and fully coherent long-range early warning system. It is designed and developed to provide early warning information and detect low-observable air targets in so-called “Stealth technology”, included F-35 and F-22 fighter aircraft. Besides, it provides the early warning information for weapons system as well.
Representatives of the Israeli Air Force refused to comment on this issue.
In fact, the recent raids reveal Israel’s continuing ability to defeat Syrian air defense facilities, but some military experts said that radar was destroyed by the kamikaze-drone.
For reference, F-35I Adir (“Mighty One” in Hebrew) is a modified Lockheed Martin’s F-35 fifth-generation multirole stealth fighter jet of Israel Defense Forces.
View image on Twitter

https://twitter.com/ImageSatIntl/status/1087795248762441728
Another arabic mozzie anti Chinrse rant
This bloody racist Shit POOtra
 

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Source: Israeli F-35 destroyed Chinese-made radar during airstrikes in Syria
Feb 20, 2019

in Aviation, News





Last month, an Israeli satellite imagery analysis company ImageSat confirmed that Chinese-made JY-27 radar of the Syrian Air Defense at Damascus airport destroyed by Israeli airstrikes on January 20th.
No airstrike details were given and the quoted ImageSat did also not contain any further information but some source said that radar was destroyed by Israeli F-35i Adir fighter jets.
The source claims that F-35i Adir fighter jet of the Israeli Air Force has destroyed Chinese design JY-27 radar of the Syrian Air Defense near Damascus International Airport on 20 January.



The JY-27 radar of the Chinese manufacturer CETC is a fully solid-state and fully coherent long-range early warning system. It is designed and developed to provide early warning information and detect low-observable air targets in so-called “Stealth technology”, included F-35 and F-22 fighter aircraft. Besides, it provides the early warning information for weapons system as well.
Representatives of the Israeli Air Force refused to comment on this issue.
In fact, the recent raids reveal Israel’s continuing ability to defeat Syrian air defense facilities, but some military experts said that radar was destroyed by the kamikaze-drone.
For reference, F-35I Adir (“Mighty One” in Hebrew) is a modified Lockheed Martin’s F-35 fifth-generation multirole stealth fighter jet of Israel Defense Forces.
View image on Twitter

Before and after the strike: JY-27 radar in #Damascus #International #Airport, #Syria, 20 January 2019.​
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Don't be so desperate to use an invalid example. It has no significant at all.

The Chinese radar can track and kill F-35 this even American are very sure of.

But Radar have their down time, rest time, AA missiles also have their down time. Including Crew / soldiers EATING SNAKES, Idol, Rebel, network down, cable damages, redeployment time gap etc. Then there is a chance for F-35 to attack it.

It fact Radar itself cannot shoot the plane. It depends on missile batteries. The missile team also have down time and reload and maintenance time. Crew went eat snake, smoking break, lunch break, AWOL etc.

There were AA missile tucks got shot by plane also happen in Syria. It is does not mean the weapon got problem. Most likely crew problem. May be insufficient man power, over worked, low moral, poor training, poor command chain. It is always happening in war.

F-35 is a useless expensive shit full of problems. Not one but tons of problems. Americans themselves are so pissed by this junk.

Everyone knows.

It claimed to attack a radar can not change these facts.
 

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总师透露中国反隐雷达性能:从发现到击落全程包揽

总师透露中国反隐雷达性能:从发现到击落全程包揽



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自隐身战机被投入到战争的那天开始,如何有效的发现以及打击这种可以有效躲避雷达探测的飞行器,一直以来都是各国空军的重点研究课题。虽说随着技术的进步,本世纪以来各种新体制反隐身雷达的出现,极大的提升了预警防控网络对隐身飞机的预警、探测能力。然而发现归发现,如何引导空对空、地对空火力对隐身飞机进行有效的打击,却依旧是一个反隐身领域的世界性难题。

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反隐身雷达直接引导导弹对隐身目标进行打击是世界性难题
不过,对于在新三打三防时代就已经十分重视对反隐身能力建设的我国而言,这些难题虽然极具挑战性,但终归是要解决的。正如我国在反隐身雷达技术领域所取得赫赫成就那般,我们在反隐身雷达直接引导导弹对隐身飞机进行打击这一课题的研究,也同样走在了全世界的前面。之所以这样说,底气就是来源于大名鼎鼎的中电科首席科学家、著名雷达专家吴剑旗近期在接受国内杂志专访时所透露的一些信息。
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中电科首席科学家、著名雷达专家吴剑旗
众所周知,现代反隐身雷达一般靠的是隐身战机在低频段(如米波波段)下雷达反射截面积上升的物理特性,来完成对隐身目标的有效探测。而一般米波雷达的测距、测角精度,都显然无法做到直接引导导弹对隐身目标进行拦截的水准。不过,凡事无绝对,据专访文章透露,当在被提问道现代反隐身雷达的跟踪精度,是否能够满足导弹火控的需求时。吴剑旗就特别指出,专门针对此要求设计的米波反隐身雷达是完全可以满足这项要求的。
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经过专门设计的反隐身雷达可以满足导弹引导的需求
实际上,有关米波反隐身雷达如何做到对隐身目标的高精度探测,以满足防空导弹火控需求的问题,早在一些相关的论文中就已经被提及。一般认为,可以直接为防空导弹进行中段引导的搜索雷达,其测角精度不能>0.2-0.3°。而受客观条件限制,传统的米波警戒雷达的测角精度最多也就能达到0.5°的水平,这显然离最低要求还有一段距离。而解决方式,主要还是来源于有源相控阵体制、数字化T/R组件、超分辨率测角等先进技术的运用。
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传统的米波反隐身雷达精度离引导导弹还有一定距离
在这个难题被解决之前,即使是在反隐身雷达的支持下对于隐身目标的拦截,也只是在获得目标的粗略位置后,引导己方战机或雷达对相关空域进行进一步搜索,并准确无误的截获目标后才有条件发射导弹对其进行拦截。而具备高精度探测能力的米波反隐身雷达,在进行反隐身作战时却不会这么繁琐。他们可以省略引导战斗机和高精度雷达对目标区域进行二次搜索的步骤,直接为防空导弹提供中段引导,最终实现从发现到击落的全程包揽。
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作战流程的简化可以极大提升对隐身战机的打击效率

这样做的好处无疑是巨大的,其最大的意义在于,反隐身作战流程的简化,可以极大的提升预警防空系统在复杂战场环境下,针对隐身战机这类时间敏感目标的打击效能。不过总体而言,对于一套完善的反隐身作战体系而言,并非是光靠这种效率更高的组合就能做到高枕无忧。其他如电子侦察、光电侦察、电子对抗、空中预警机乃至己方的隐身战机,都是这当中可以发挥重要作用的角色。单打独斗,永远都是最为末流的选择。(作者署名:啮花熊)

The chief division revealed the performance of China's anti-implicit radar: from discovery to shooting down
The chief division revealed the performance of China's anti-implicit radar: from discovery to shooting down
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Since the stealth fighter was put into the day of the war, how to effectively detect and combat such an aircraft that can effectively avoid radar detection has always been a key research topic of the national air force. Although with the advancement of technology, the emergence of various new systems against stealth radars since the beginning of this century has greatly improved the early warning and detection capabilities of early warning and prevention networks for stealth aircraft. However, it was discovered that how to guide air-to-air and ground-to-air firepower to effectively attack stealth aircraft is still a worldwide problem in the anti-stealth field.



Anti-stealth radar directly guides missiles to strike stealth targets is a worldwide problem

However, for the country that has attached great importance to anti-stealth capacity building in the new three-three-three era, these problems are extremely challenging, but they are ultimately solved. Just as China has achieved great achievements in the field of anti-stealth radar technology, our research on the issue of direct stealth radar directing missiles to stealth aircraft is also ahead of the world. The reason for this is that the bottom gas is some information revealed by Wu Jianqi, the famous chief scientist of China Electronics and the famous radar expert, who recently received an exclusive interview with domestic magazines.

Chief scientist of China Electric Power Corporation, famous radar expert Wu Jianqi

As we all know, the modern anti-stealth radar generally relies on the physical characteristics of the radar reflection cross-sectional area of the stealth fighter in the low frequency band (such as the meter wave band) to complete the effective detection of the stealth target. In general, the range and accuracy of the meter wave radar are obviously unable to directly guide the missile to intercept the stealth target. However, there is no absolute thing, according to an interview article, when asked whether the tracking accuracy of modern anti-stealth radar can meet the needs of missile fire control. Wu Jianqi specifically pointed out that the Mibo anti-stealth radar designed specifically for this requirement can fully meet this requirement.

Specially designed anti-stealth radar can meet the needs of missile guidance

In fact, the question about how the Mipo anti-stealth radar can achieve high-precision detection of stealth targets to meet the fire control requirements of air defense missiles has already been mentioned in some related papers. It is generally believed that the search radar that can directly guide the mid-range for air defense missiles cannot have an angular accuracy of >0.2-0.3°. Due to objective conditions, the accuracy of the traditional meter-wave warning radar can reach a level of 0.5° at most, which is obviously a distance from the minimum requirement. The solution is mainly derived from the use of advanced technologies such as active phased array system, digital T/R components, and super-resolution angle measurement.

The traditional Mibo anti-stealth radar has a certain distance from the guided missile.

Before this problem is solved, even the interception of stealth targets with the support of anti-stealth radar is only to obtain a rough position of the target, and then guide the fighter or radar to further search the relevant airspace, and accurately intercept the target. Only after the conditional launch of the missile will intercept it. The Mibo anti-stealth radar with high-precision detection capability is not so cumbersome in anti-stealth operations. They can omit the steps of guiding the fighter and high-precision radar to perform a secondary search on the target area, directly providing mid-range guidance for the air defense missiles, and finally achieving the whole process from discovery to shooting down.

Simplification of operational procedures can greatly improve the efficiency of combat against stealth fighters

The benefits of this are undoubtedly huge. The biggest significance is that the simplification of the anti-stealth combat process can greatly enhance the impact effectiveness of the early warning air defense system against time-sensitive targets such as stealth fighters in a complex battlefield environment. However, in general, for a complete anti-stealth combat system, it is not because of this more efficient combination can achieve peace of mind. Other stealth fighters such as electronic reconnaissance, photoelectric reconnaissance, electronic countermeasures, airborne early warning aircraft and even their own are all important roles. Single-handedly, it is always the most endless choice. (Author's signature: Bear)
 

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Hell no. F-35 wouldn't stand a chance in afghanistan. Thats why they use embraer a-29 super tucano.


The problem is Assad's troops, warriors' quality. They are not doing their jobs and poorly trained poorly disciplined.

This is why entire Syria fall into hands of ISIS rebels more than 70 factions of militants loyal to different foreign powers.

if Czar Putin did not sent Russian Troops to save Assad's Ass he was already captured and sodomized to death like Qaddafi long ago.

This is why any good radar tanks missiles in hands of Assad's troops are switched off useless, wrongly used, abandoned and captured / destroyed by enemies.

USA can claim it's F-35 bombed the Chinese made radar, they would not tell you that their satellite discovered that radar abandoned and unmaned for 2 weeks before they bombed it! They will mislead the world to desperately claim a false victory. USA Dotard-land is now in such a desperate position.

The USA will not tell you that the radar site already ran out of fuel for 10 days no power! Or the crew members fled because they had not received salaries for 3 months! Or they ran out of food & water and ran AWOL deserted to find ways of survival. These kind of problems can easily and reasonably be expected in Syrian War as well as in ANY WARS @ ANYWHERE.
 

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Terrex that won't get confiscated:

Many many different models not easy to tell one apart from another. Some can order (export models) some not for sale.

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大八轮战术开喷!我陆军11式轮式突击车实弹猛打

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我陆军11式105毫米轮式装甲突击车实弹开火。11式轮式装甲突击车,是陆军快速反应力量的主要突击装备,用于实施快速部署、要域夺空和地面突击,摧毁敌装甲目标、野战防御工事,杀伤敌有生力量,夺占预定地域或目标。(来源:鼎盛007兄弟)

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  • 新浪军事深度:近日,网友曝光了海军陆战队涂装的ZTL11型105mm轮式突击车照片,这表明我军陆战队已经开始装备这型新锐的陆战快反利器。ZTL11型轮式突击车在网络上被称为大八轮。
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  • 其显著的特征就是其具备高机动性的八轮驱动底盘,其赋予了11式轮式突击车优越的公路机动性,在车尾部装备了两具导管螺旋桨还赋予了其优良的水上机动性能。



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  • 11式轮突现在已经大规模装备了我军陆军快速反应部队,还曾参加我国9·3大阅兵,是陆军的明星装备。此次曝光的照片中,11式轮突被漆上了海军陆战队专属迷彩,这表明其已经做好了进入陆战队服役的准备。
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  • 我们知道,现在我国海军陆战队的主要步兵战斗车辆是05型两栖步兵战车车族,其中包括05两栖装甲突击车、05两栖装甲步战车、05型两栖装甲指挥车和05型两栖装甲抢救车。05车族的性能优越


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  • 装备先进,突击车装备的105mm火炮和炮射导弹能够有效对付滩头坚固火力点和装甲车辆、步战车装备的30mm机关炮和反坦克导弹也能有效支援陆战队登陆作战



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  • 是陆战队可靠的战场伙伴和运输工具。然而,05车族是履带装甲车辆,尽管拥有优秀的涉水越野能力和防护力,但其重量大(战斗全重26吨以上),难以远程投送、机动速度慢。




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  • 而11式轮突的出现正好弥补了陆战队在远程投送,远距部署时重装备难以随动的问题,并且其道路机动速度和城市作战中更加轻巧灵活,

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  • 正好满足了未来陆战队多样化环境部署作战的需求。同时,其装备的105mm火炮拥有与05车族相同的火力,在支援陆战队作战时也毫不逊色。

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从之前陆军装备的图片上来看,11式轮突在炮塔上与09式轮战有了较大变化,强化了观瞄设备和稳定系统,使其有更好的射击稳定性。而在官方报道的多次演习中



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  • 陆军的11式轮突均有上镜,其表现也得到了官兵的一致好评。而从近日曝光的陆战队版来看,解放军对其的评价也很好,并依据未来的任务变化将其配属陆战队使用。



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轮式战车与履带战车在登陆作战中其实是互补的互有优缺点的装备。对于登陆滩头必然会面对的软湿地况,履带式战车通行能力自然要优于轮式。但在随后确立滩头向内发展阶段,轮式战车却便于依托公路网络迅速向纵深突击稳固登陆区域。因此新接八轮系战车,未来可能是会出现05系与八轮系的轻重组合,更好应对登陆的不同时期作战任务。





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另外值得注意的是,目前海军陆战队某两个旅以05两栖战车为主,都已经满编。而这次换装八轮车组自然要么是新组建某旅级单位,要么就是某旅换装,但其换下05两栖战车还没到退役年限,可能转交另外新单位。两种情况无论如何,都标明未来可能会新组建海军陆战队单位,会不会是传闻的某些陆军转隶海军的单位,值得我们继续关注。(作者署名:浩汉防务)



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  • 我陆军中型轮式快反合成旅炮兵营的装甲轮式122毫米自行榴弹炮群开火。09式是目前世界最先进的122毫米自行榴弹炮,火控系统甚至比05式155毫米自行加榴炮还先进。可不经试射,直接展开非常精确的效力射,实现目标首群覆盖。09式能在停止行进1分钟后开炮, 实现了火炮的操瞄自动化和单炮自主作战。由于有了先进火控,09式全连打击暴露目标,每炮打一发就能精确的完成既定任务。(来源:鼎盛007兄弟)




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  • 新浪军事深度:在嚷嚷淘汰122毫米榴弹炮的若干观点中,有一种是让120毫米迫榴炮来替代122毫米榴弹炮。他们认为既然120毫米迫榴炮的炮弹威力与122毫米榴弹炮相当,且诸如俄罗斯新一代120毫米迫榴炮2S42在发射新行弹药时射程亦可达18公里,既然两者威力和射程都差不多,那干嘛还留着122毫米榴弹炮呢。让120毫米迫榴炮直接和152/155毫米加榴炮直接组成两级压制炮兵体系岂不是更好。




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120毫米迫榴炮最早出现于1980年代中期,其研制的动因有两点:一则是为了为空降兵寻求一种可空降的轻型自行火炮;二则是要简化空降兵部队中种类繁杂的各种火炮。迫榴炮兼顾迫击炮和榴弹炮的弹道性能,从功能上可以认为是迫击炮的延伸,但是从结构上则可以认为是超级轻量化的榴弹炮。




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  • 之所以被认为是超级轻量化的榴弹炮,是因为其在发射炮弹时的最大初速只有376米/秒。要知道即便是M-30型122毫米榴弹炮,其最大初速也得有515米/秒。更小的初速,意为这更小的膛压和后坐力,这样火炮的身管和反后坐机构就可以做的很轻。



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  • 例如俄罗斯的2B16型120毫米牵引迫榴炮可以将炮重做到1.2吨左右,而以D30为基础的超轻122毫米榴弹炮最多也就是减重到1.85吨。2S9型120毫米自行迫榴炮战斗全重只有9吨不到,而目前世界上还没有谁能把履带式122毫米自行榴弹炮的全重做到10吨上下的。
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  • 在性能上,2S9型120毫米迫榴炮在发射迫弹时,最大初速331米/秒,最大射程7.75公里;发射榴弹时,最大初速367米/秒,最大射程8.85公里。为了进一步增大120毫米迫榴炮的射程,俄罗斯为其研制了火箭增程榴弹,使其射程进一步提高到了12.8公里。



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俄罗斯在2S9之后,研制了射程更远的2S31型120毫米迫榴炮,目前俄罗斯最新的2S42型120毫米迫榴炮其实就是2S31的现代化量产型号。新的120毫米迫榴炮使用了更长倍径的身管,从而通过提高初速让炮弹的射程更远。2S31在发射迫弹时初速367米/秒,最大射程达到8.8公里。之前有报道说2S31发射新型榴弹时射程可以达到18公里,其实这个榴弹是底排或者火箭增程弹。





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关于中国的120毫米迫榴,我们是以2S9的战斗部为基础进行了弹药本地化设计的,初速和射程与原版2S9和2S31略有出入,不过可以肯定的是发射普通迫弹和榴弹的射程都没有超过10公里。120毫米迫榴炮发射普通弹射程不超过10公里,122毫米榴弹炮发射底凹榴弹射程18公里,前者是万万不能替代后者的。




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况且从编制上讲120毫米迫榴在我军是编入机械化部队合成营的,而122毫米榴弹炮则是旅一级的支援火炮,两者之间完全是两条平行线。从威力上讲,120毫米迫弹弹重13.9千克,其中装药1.8千克左右;120毫米榴弹弹重19.8千克,其中装药5千克。与之相比,122毫米榴弹弹重22千克,其中装药3.5千克。




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  • 由此可知在大部分情况下,120毫米迫榴炮的弹丸威力是不足以与122毫米榴弹炮相提并论的,前者只有在发射榴弹时威力比后者大一些。不过在另外一个方面评价弹丸的威力不仅仅要看装药的多少,也要看破片的质量。因为如果碰到轻装甲目标时,显然破片比爆轰波更有杀伤力。



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  • 上所述,在现在并不存在什么120毫米迫榴炮代替122毫米榴弹炮的可能。如果强硬的通过加长身管和增加装药来增加射程的话,120毫米迫榴炮的后坐力和重量急剧增加,其也就失去了存在的意义,如果真的到哪天谁取代谁就不好说了。军队的编制和火力配系都有其专门要考量的特点,不同级别的编队对于压制火力有着不同的要求,火力和射程固然重要,但是用的起,跑的快才是王道。脱离了这些来谈谁替代谁,谁统一谁只能是无厘头式的过家家。(作者署名:炮霸707)





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My Army's 11-type 105mm wheeled armored assault vehicle fired on fire. The 11-wheeled armored assault vehicle is the main assault equipment for the Army's rapid response force. It is used to implement rapid deployment, domain capture and ground assault, destroy enemy armor targets, field defense fortifications, kill enemy forces, capture the intended territory or aims. (Source: Dingsheng 007 brothers)


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Sina military depth: Recently, netizens exposed the photos of the ZTL11 105mm wheeled assault vehicle painted by the Marine Corps, which indicates that our Marine Corps has begun to equip this new type of land combat fast weapon. The ZTL11 wheeled assault vehicle is called the Big Eight Wheel on the network.

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Its distinctive feature is its highly maneuverable eight-wheel drive chassis, which gives the 11-wheeled assault vehicle superior road maneuverability, and the two-engined propellers at the rear of the car also give it excellent water maneuverability.




The 11-round rotation has now been equipped with our army's rapid response force on a large scale. It has also participated in the 9-3 military parade in China and is the star equipment of the army. In the photo of the exposure, the 11-type wheel is painted with the exclusive camouflage of the Marine Corps, indicating that it is ready to enter the Marine Corps.

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We know that the main infantry fighting vehicles of our Marine Corps are now Type 05 amphibious infantry fighting vehicles, including 05 amphibious armored assault vehicles, 05 amphibious armored combat vehicles, 05-type amphibious armored command vehicles and 05-type amphibious armored rescue vehicles. car. 05 car family's superior performance




Equipped with advanced equipment, the 105mm artillery and artillery-launched missiles of the assault vehicle can effectively deal with the strong firepower points and armored vehicles of the beachhead, and the 30mm cannons and anti-tank missiles equipped with the combat vehicles can also effectively support the landing of the Marine Corps.




It is a reliable battlefield partner and transportation vehicle for the Marine Corps. However, the 05 car family is a tracked armored vehicle. Although it has excellent wading and off-road capability and protection, its weight is large (more than 26 tons of combat weight), it is difficult to remotely deliver, and the maneuvering speed is slow.





The emergence of the 11-type rounds just makes up for the problem that the Marine Corps is difficult to follow during long-distance delivery and long-distance deployment, and its road maneuvering speed and urban combat are more lightweight and flexible.


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It just meets the needs of the future deployment of the Marine Corps' diverse environment. At the same time, its equipped 105mm artillery has the same firepower as the 05 car, and it is not inferior when supporting the Marine Corps.


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Judging from the pictures of the former Army equipment, the 11-type wheel has a great change in the turret and the 09-style round of war, strengthening the sighting equipment and stability system, so that it has better shooting stability. In the many exercises reported by the official





The Army's 11-type rounds are all on the mirror, and their performance has also been well received by the officers and men. Judging from the recent exposure of the Marine Corps, the PLA has also evaluated it well and assigned it to the Marine Corps based on future mission changes.




Wheeled chariots and crawler chariots are complementary equipments with advantages and disadvantages in landing operations. For the soft wet conditions that the beachhead will inevitably face, the capacity of the crawler chariot is naturally better than the wheeled one. However, in the subsequent development of the beachhead inward development, the wheeled chariots were able to quickly and firmly slam the landing area by relying on the road network. Therefore, the new eight-wheeled chariot, in the future may be the light and heavy combination of the 05 and the eight-wheel system, better to deal with the different missions of landing.






It is also worth noting that some of the two brigades of the Marine Corps are mainly based on the 05 amphibious vehicles, which are already fully compiled. This time, the replacement of the eight-wheeler group is naturally a new formation of a brigade-level unit, or a brigade reloading, but its replacement for the amphibious chariot has not yet reached the retirement period, and may be transferred to another new unit. In either case, it is indicated that the new Marine Corps unit may be formed in the future. Will it be a rumor that some of the Army’s units will be transferred to the Navy, which deserves our continued attention. (Author's signature: Haohan Defense)




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Run fast and play! My Army 09 wheeled howitzer cluster fired


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The armored wheeled 122mm self-propelled howitzer group of the Army's medium-sized wheeled fast-reaction synthetic rifle barracks opened fire. The Type 09 is the world's most advanced 122mm self-propelled howitzer. The fire control system is even more advanced than the 05-type 155mm self-propelled howitzer. Can be launched without a test, directly launch a very accurate shot, to achieve the target group coverage. The Type 09 can be fired after stopping for 1 minute, realizing the automation of the gun and the self-operation of the single gun. Thanks to advanced fire control, the 09-style full-strike strike targets, and each shot can accurately complete a given task. (Source: Dingsheng 007 brothers)






Sina Military Depth: One of several viewpoints in the elimination of 122mm howitzers was to replace the 122mm howitzer with a 120mm mortar. They believe that since the 120mm mortar cannon has the same power as the 122mm howitzer, and the Russian new generation 120mm mortar cannon 2S42 can also shoot 18km when launching new ammunition, since both power and range are similar, Why do you still have a 122mm howitzer? It is better to have a 120mm mortar and a 152/155mm plus a howitzer directly form a two-stage suppression artillery system.





The 120mm mortar was first introduced in the mid-1980s. There are two reasons for its development: one is to find a light self-propelled artillery that can be airborne for airborne troops; the other is to simplify the various types of airborne troops. Kind of artillery. The forceful performance of the mortar and howitzer and the howitzer can be considered as an extension of the mortar, but it can be considered as a super lightweight howitzer.





It is considered to be a super lightweight howitzer because its maximum initial velocity when launching a projectile is only 376 m/s. Be aware that even the M-30 122mm howitzer has a maximum initial velocity of 515 m/s. The smaller initial velocity means smaller rolling and recoil, so that the artillery's body and recoil mechanism can be made light.




For example, Russia's 2B16 120mm towed cannon can achieve a cannon weight of about 1.2 tons, while the D30-based ultra-light 122mm howitzer can lose weight to 1.85 tons. The 2S9 120mm self-propelled howitzer has a total weight of less than 9 tons. At present, no one in the world can make the full weight of the crawler 122mm self-propelled howitzer up to 10 tons.

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In terms of performance, the 2S9 120mm mortar cannon has a maximum initial velocity of 331m/s and a maximum range of 7.75km. When launching a grenade, the maximum initial velocity is 367m/s and the maximum range is 8.85km. In order to further increase the range of the 120mm mortar, the Russian extended rockets were developed to increase the range to 12.8 kilometers.




After 2S9, Russia developed a 2S31 120mm mortar with a longer range. At present, Russia's latest 2S42 120mm mortar is actually a modern production model of the 2S31. New 120
 

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I suppose next war, PLA better send in their troops and equipment like putin. Otherwise this kind of news is bad for their reputation.
 

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I suppose next war, PLA better send in their troops and equipment like putin. Otherwise this kind of news is bad for their reputation.


I think there is a big market for good quality and highly trained mercenaries or proxy army. Putin & Xi will pay. Golden Escalator will also pay.

But Gurkhas are too stupid. Can get con by MSK e.g.

Putin used false flag volunteers to invade Crimea & Donbass, because he does not want to use his own Russian flag. If he could he also find and use another proxy army in Syria instead of his own Russian army. Because he want to play nice guy towards EU who are his customers buying gas & oil via pipelines. Dotard is trying very hard to steal this business and painting Putin as devil to EU. But both are not smart. EU are beggars and soon will run out of $$$ to pay for Putin's gas. No point to sell to them nor please these beggars, soon they will expect cheap or free HUMANITARIAN Gas Supplies. Sent Russian Army to wipe out EU all the way until Ireland & England. Graft all these beggars remaining resources and starve them dead is the better practical way.

Xi got need to take care of brutal businesses, he always try to find Kind / Civilized Alternatives than blood. But if you got a strong and disciplined and well trained private army without PLA flag to offer him services, he may pay if Dotard forced him. But Xi will be a very difficult customer, he will impose 100 fucking civilized rules and demands, which will cause you to be sucker at war front.

Golden Escalator is BEST CUSTOMER. He will actually want you to use his flag and fly it high to show the world. He hire you because his army and generals are coward and useless. He will pay you anything you name if you can win for his ego. Gold or oil or CBs he will give it all to you. His favorit Golden Escalator he can also give to you!
 

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I have repeatedly poured scorn on Chink technology as I know for a fact that Chinese designed stuff never performs as it is supposed to. All their tech is a pile of junk.

Even the much touted Huawei phone cam produces such poor quality images that they use DSLRs to shoot all the images in their adverts and then falsely claim they were shot with the phone cam.

https://www.valuewalk.com/2019/03/huawei-p30-marketing-dslr-photos/

The west has absolutely nothing to fear if comes to real warfare because 95% of chink designed stuff will just crash and burn without a shot having to be fired.
 

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Like I said many times if the chinks did not try to cheat I'd be very worried.

Here’s What Huawei Said When Caught Using DSLR Pics For Huawei P30
March 13, 2019 at 8:47 am by Vikas Shukla

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Huawei has done it at least a couple of times in the past. And the Chinese company has done it again. That’s quite surprising because Huawei’s flagship phones are among the world’s best smartphone cameras. If your phones offer the best smartphone cameras, why would you want to use stock DSLR photos and try to pass them as pictures taken with your flagship phone? Doesn’t seem right, right? Huawei has once again been caught using DSLR photos in the Huawei P30 marketing campaign. The company didn’t explicitly say it, but implied that the pictures were taken using the Huawei P30 series.

‘Misunderstanding’ on the Huawei P30 controversy

After having made the same mistake more than once, Huawei seems to have learned little from its past blunders. Maybe the company is deliberately trying to mislead users with its questionable marketing. The company is set to launch the Huawei P30 series phones at an event in Paris on March 26th.

To drum up consumer excitement, Huawei’s Richard Yu shared a series of pictures on Chinese microblogging site Weibo to showcase the phone’s zoom capabilities. The company has confirmed that the upcoming P30 Pro would feature a ‘super-zoom’ periscope camera. However, the pictures shared by Huawei were taken using professional cameras rather than its smartphones.

Huawei’s Weibo post didn’t have any disclaimer to clarify that the images were taken using DSLRs instead of its upcoming phones. The company added a disclaimer only after being caught. Folks at GSMArena pointed out that the picture showing a child and ducks was published by photographer Jake Olson in 2016 instead of being clicked by the P30. According to GadgetMatch, another picture of an Indonesian volcano is nearly identical to a photo taken by Tom Pfeiffer in 2009.

Only after the origins of the pictures were revealed online did Huawei add a disclaimer to its post noting that the pictures were meant for creative purposes only. It was misleading because it gave the impression that you could achieve the same level of image quality and bokeh effect with the Huawei P30 series phones.
Having compared the “fake” Huawei P30 sample shots grabbed by GSMAreana with the ones in Richard Yu’s weibo post, it’s safe to say that Huawei updated the pics with a disclaimer *after* being called out. This wouldn’t have been an issue if this was done in the first place. pic.twitter.com/8RmRPFWcIO
— Richard Lai (@richardlai) March 12, 2019

Huawei responded to the whole episode by saying that there could have been a “misunderstanding.” In a statement to Android Authority, the Chinese company said the pictures were only teaser posters that were meant to highlight the “unique new features that will come with the Huawei P30 series.” The Chinese company has “acquired the licenses to the original images.” But the burning question is – why didn’t Huawei add the disclaimer in the original post to begin with? It could have avoided the whole embarrassing incident.

An isolated incident or a habit?

This is not the first time Huawei was caught testing the limits of ethical marketing practices. Last year, the company was caught cheating on benchmark scores to artificially inflate the scores of its phones. Also in 2018, a behind-the-scenes picture from a Huawei Nova 3 ad revealed that the selfie shown in the ad was taken with a DSLR rather than the Nova 3 phone. Back in 2016, the company had tried to pass a picture taken on a $4,500 camera as a photo clicked with its P9 smartphone.

Anyway, we will get a better look at Huawei P30’s super-zoom periscope camera when the company unveils its new flagship on March 26 in Paris. According to the rumor mill, the P30 would feature 6GB or 8GB RAM and 128GB of internal memory. The more expensive P30 Pro would get 8GB RAM and 128GB or 256GB of internal storage. Both handsets are said to run Huawei’s own Kirin 980 processor. Huawei is also rumored to launch a ‘Lite’ version of its flagship phone.
There is little chance the Chinese company would launch the phones in the US market. The US and many other Western nations have accused that Huawei gives the Chinese government a backdoor for spying on other countries. Last year, the US government asked AT&T and Verizon not to carry Huawei phones due to national security fears. The US had also arrested Meng Wanzhou, Huawei CFO and daughter of Huawei founder Ren Zhengfei.

Earlier this month, the Chinese company sued the US government over the ban on its equipment. Despite little presence in the US, Huawei managed to sell more than 200 million smartphones last year. It shipped more than 10 million units of Mate 20 in just four and a half months.
 

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Huawei Caught Using DSLR Photos to Highlight Phone's Camera
The commercial plays up the selfie-taking capabilities of Huawei's Nova 3 handset with examples of the high-quality photos you can take. However, a Reddit user has uncovered evidence that the photo examples were taken by a DSLR camera.


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Don't always believe what you see. A new commercial from Huawei appears to be passing off DSLR-captured photos as images taken by a company smartphone.

The commercial, which has been running in Egypt, plays up the selfie-taking capabilities of Huawei's Nova 3 handset, including what the photos will supposedly look like. According to the ad, the images can look surprisingly vivid and sharp. However, an observant user on Reddit posted on Sunday that the photos promoted in the commercial were likely faked.

The evidence? One of the actors in the commercial, Sarah Elshamy, posted on Instagram a behind the scenes image, showing how the advertisement was made. By doing so, she accidentally revealed that a DSLR-camera was used to take one of the still shots that Huawei's smartphone appeared to capture in the ad.



Her post even shows that the actor supposedly holding the Huawei smartphone to take the selfie only pretended to do so. In reality, Elshamy's castmate held nothing in his hand. The Instagram post has since been deleted, but the Reddit user was savvy enough to save it and circulate the evidence over the web.
It's not the first time Huawei has been caught passing off DSLR-taken photos as smartphone-captured material. Two years ago, the company used a photo taken by a $4,500 Canon camera as the kind of images you could supposedly capture with a Huawei P9 smartphone.

In the case of the Nova 3 commercial, Huawei isn't denying that DSLR-taken photos were used. The company told PCMag: "The purpose of this advertisement is to demonstrate how consumers can use the features of the Huawei Nova 3 and Nova 3i." The smartphone maker also noted that the commercial does feature a disclaimer; it comes at the 28-second mark and is written in Arabic.

However, the disclaimer simply states that "product images and the content are provided for reference only," and omits any explicit mention of a DSLR camera or professional grade photos used in the ad. It doesn't help that disclaimer is also quite small and appears for only about two seconds.
Editor's Note: This story has been updated with further comment from Huawei.
 

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The soviets have given up trying to stop chinese copying their jet fighter design and engines.
Including the thrust vector from mig-29 onwards.
 

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Like I said many times if the chinks did not try to cheat I'd be very worried.

Here’s What Huawei Said When Caught Using DSLR Pics For Huawei P30
March 13, 2019 at 8:47 am by Vikas Shukla

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You don't have to try very hard if you want to catch Apple using DSLR pics to fake Gay Phone Pics. Samsung also do the same.

Advertising Agents are the ones doing it.
 

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The soviets have given up trying to stop chinese copying their jet fighter design and engines.
Including the thrust vector from mig-29 onwards.


Chinese jet engines already exceeded Russians in many ways:

  • longer overall lifespan from new to scrap
  • longer necessary maintenance interval between useful service hours
  • superior automated software and intelligence
  • easier to service & repair
  • highest max capacity especially for gas turbines used in land-based power generation plants & heavy marine (warship) engines
  • miniaturization to make tiny and ultra-light jet engines for military drones and missiles

Not released and proven yet but at prototypes that are still being improved - new Chinese jet engines has higher trust/weight ratio than the best Russian jet engine. Russian released 1st but with a slightly lower trust/weight ratio, Chinese achieved success in a slightly higher trust/weight ratio model, but is take a longer fine tuning and optimization process / route than Russian, will be released soon as indicated. However some times it is more important to have volume production sooner rather than a fully optimized product that is delayed, especially if conflict & interest at stake is facing immediate challenge, you must have it before the war not after.
 
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