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What Do Singaporean Students Gain When NUS and NTU are in the Top 10 Ranking

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Dear brothers and sisters

what do singaporeans gain when NUS and NTU are ranked top 10?

they are unable to find good and meaningful jobs and at the same time, many foreigners from Philippines, Myanmar, China, India flood the market with fake certificates?

what can our Singaporean students do to protect their basic rights?

how about NUS and NTU student bodies? Do they ever voice out their concerned or they are fully paid by PAP?
 
A larger bill for tuition fees to support the bloat. Fees can increase for juniors, no problem, if mine don't increase.
 
Why are you negative and immediately assumed graduates cannot find jobs?

Maybe they dun like the jobs?
 
http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/asian-university-rankings/2014

1. NUS
2. KAIST
3. University of HK
4. Seoul National University
5. HK University of Science & Tech
6. The Chinese University of HK
7. NTU
8. Peking University
9. POSTECH
10. University of Tokyo


RUN has his doubts.
- University of Tokyo is clearly 2x better than nearly all of the Top-10 Asian universities. In my biased opinion, it should be the best in Asia (don't believe? ask the HR global MNCs)
- Tsinghua, Kyoto & Osaka University should be ranked on-par with NUS or even better; they are also clearly more outstanding than NTU and other HK universities
- Fudan, National Taiwan and Shanghai Jiaotong are also strangely ranked behind the HK & NTU universities.
 
..........concerns about the methodology QS uses for its rankings have been brought up by several experts. Simon Marginson, professor ....... University of Melbourne .... said: "I will not discuss the QS ranking because the methodology is not sufficiently robust to provide data valid as social science."...]

In an article for the New Statesman entitled "The QS World University Rankings are a load of old baloney", David Blanchflower, a leading labour economist, said: "This ranking is complete rubbish and nobody should place any credence in it. The results are based on an entirely flawed methodology that underweights the quality of research and overweights fluff... The QS is a flawed index and should be ignored." .....

...... Philip Altbach, professor..... Boston College ....said: “The QS World University Rankings are the most problematical. From the beginning, the QS has relied on reputational indicators for half of its analysis … it...probably accounts for the significant variability in the QS rankings over the years. In addition, QS queries employers, introducing even more variability and unreliability into the mix. ...the QS rankings should be taken seriously by the higher education community is questionable."....

....BMC Medicine authored by several scientists from the US and Greece, it was pointed out:
If properly performed, most scientists would consider peer review to have very good construct validity; many may even consider it the gold standard for appraising excellence. However, even peers need some standardized input data to peer review. The Times simply asks each expert to list the 30 universities they regard as top institutions of their area without offering input data on any performance indicators. Research products may occasionally be more visible to outsiders, but it is unlikely that any expert possesses a global view of the inner workings of teaching at institutions worldwide. Moreover, the expert selection process of The Times is entirely unclear....... In the absence of any guarantee for protection from selection biases, measurement validity can be very problematic.

Alex Usher, vice president of Higher Education Strategy Associates in Canada, commented:
Most people in the rankings business think that the main problem with The Times is the opaque way it constructs its sample for its reputational rankings - a not-unimportant question given that reputation makes up 50% of the sample...... University of British Columbia (UBC) for instance, is now functionally equivalent to Harvard in the Peer Review score, which, no disrespect to UBC, is ludicrous..............

Academicians have also been critical of the use of the citation database, arguing that it undervalues institutions which excel in the social sciences. Ian Diamond.......vice-chancellor of the University of Aberdeen .....saying:.....
The use of a citation database must have an impact because such databases do not have as wide a cover of the social sciences (or arts and humanities) as the natural sciences. Hence the low position of the London School of Economics, caused primarily by its citations score, is a result not of the output of an outstanding institution but the database and the fact that the LSE does not have the counterweight of a large natural science base............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QS_World_University_Rankings


An important idea in the definition of a university is the notion of academic freedom. The first documentary evidence of this comes from early in the life of the first university. The University of Bologna adopted an academic charter, the Constitutio Habita,.... in 1158 or 1155... which guaranteed the right of a traveling scholar to unhindered passage in the interests of education. Today this is claimed as the origin of "academic freedom"....This is now widely recognised internationally - on 18 September 1988 430 university rectors signed the Magna Charta Universitatum,...marking the 900th anniversary of Bologna's foundation. The number of universities signing the Magna Charta Universitatum continues to grow, drawing from all parts of the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University

Interestingly, no university in Singapore has signed the Magna Charta Universitatum .
Can a university that has no academic freedom be considered even a top university-to me its merely a technical college teaching career skills or churning out degrees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Charta_Universitatum
 
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talking about academic freedom, please read my previous post


Dear brothers and sisters,

how are you there? Ginger just had curry dinner at Little India and Ginger specially requested for additional curry powder to be added.

Many academic dissents who have backbone and speaking out their idea have been persecuted by Singapore and different techniques were used to fix different academicians depending on the situation to give the impression to the readers of mainstream media that these academicians are evil with low moral value.

Dr Rey Buono persecuted for his negative and critical comments on the building of Singapore Esplanade.

Dr Cherian George persecuted for his no hold bar style of blog.

Dr Christopher Lingle persecuted for criticising Lee Kuan Yew authoritative economy management.

Dr Chee Suan Juan persecuted for his political idea which is different from mainstream.

Dr James Gomez persecuted for his involvement in WP election.

Prof Tey Tsun Hang persecuted for his academic articles (mainly published in Hong Kong University which is headed by Prof Michael Hor) that are critical Singapore jurisprudence.


All the above academicians were persecuted with the aims to silent them from making negative comments to Singapore.

You may want to read the full artcle below which was published by Online Citizen.

http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2014/02/academic-freedom-in-singapore/

Academic freedom in Singapore?
By Jess C Scott / Photo: Yale-NUS College

According to AAC&U, academic freedom also allows for those working within a scholarly community to “develop the intellectual and personal qualities required of citizens in a vibrant democracy and participants in a vigorous economy.”

Students and professors need the freedom to share their ideas publicly and responsibly, so as to develop critical judgement by exploring a wide range of insights and perspectives.

Do academics in Singapore have a safe environment to express their own views?

Here is a brief look at some of the academics who “expressed their views” about the Singapore government.


1. REY BUONO

rey buonoRey Buono taught in Singapore for nine years between 1987 and 1996. He was hired by the MOE to establish the first Theatre Program in the Singapore educational system.

In 1994, he wrote an article criticizing the architecture of the proposed Esplanade building. He said:

“The subtext of the article was the rigidity of the PAP government and the oppression of local artists. This was enough to result in the non-renewal of my contract. Later, I found out that my phone was tapped, I was followed by police, and the Ministry had in its files detailed information about what went on in my classroom.”

2. CHERIAN GEORGE

cherianDr. Cherian George is a writer and academic engaged in journalism research, education and advocacy.

In September 2012, he delivered a talk at Singapore Management University about the restriction of the press, government accountability, and the co-existence of online journalism and traditional media in Singapore.

In 2013, Dr. George’s second application for tenure at NTU was rejected. Despite petitions and an international outcry, NTU has maintained the stance to deny him tenure. Karin Wahl-Jorgensen, a Cardiff University professor, said the news suggested that anyone “critical of the government” was not going to get a permanent government position.

3. CHRISTOPHER LINGLE

christopher lingleDr. Christopher Lingle began research for his book, Singapore’s Authoritarian Capitalism, during his fellowship at the National University of Singapore.

Work on the book was disrupted when police questioned Dr. Lingle about an opinion piece published in The International Herald Tribune, where he had written that some East Asian governments relied on a “compliant judiciary to bankrupt opposition politicians.”

Although Lingle’s published comments did not name any country or individuals, Mr. Lee Kuan Yew insisted it was clear Dr. Lingle was referring to Singapore.

The paper agreed to pay $214,285 to Mr. LKY, who asserted that he had been defamed.

4. CHEE SOON JUAN

chee soon juanDr. Chee Soon Juan is the well-known leader of the Singapore Democratic Party (SDP).

In 1993, Dr. Chee was fired from his position at the National University of Singapore for allegedly using research funds to mail his wife’s doctoral thesis to the United States. Dr. Chee denied misuse of the funds and staged a hunger strike in protest.



5. JAMES GOMEZ

gomezDr. James Gomez is a politician and academic from Singapore. His first book was written in 1999 and titled, Self-Censorship: Singapore’s Shame.

In 2006, Dr. Gomez wrongly accused a staff at the Election Department for misplacing his minority certificate which he promptly apologized for. However, a police report was made against him and the police acted to investigate him for “criminal intimidation”.

The incident was played up by the local mainstream media. Mr. Lee Kuan Yew seized the opportunity to call Dr. Gomez “a liar” and a “bad egg.”

6. TEY TSUN HANG

tey hsun hangTey Tsun Hang was an NUS law professor, former district judge, and seat counsel in the Attorney-General’s Chambers.

Prof. Tey has been critical of Singapore’s legal system, as evident in his publications such as Death Penalty Singapore-Style: Clinical and Carefree.

In 2011, Hong Kong University Press published his book, Legal Consensus. The blurb states that the book “hints at the power relations and dynamics between the political establishment and the Singapore judiciary.”

In April 2012, Prof. Tey was arrested by the CPIB for investigation on charges of corruptly gaining favours from students. A year later, Prof. Tey was found guilty of corruptly obtaining gifts and sex from former student Darinne Ko, and sentenced to five months’ jail in June.

Darinne Ko said that she had been pressured into agreeing with CPIB on her witness statement after being told by Mr Teng that she could also be charged for corruption.

__________

As Ray Buono wrote:

“I am not the only lecturer to have this happen. I can name two of my contemporaries (and there are many more). . .who were expelled for political reasons.”

One has to wonder how “many more” academics have been treated in a similar manner — and how much of a factor this is in contributing to the steady brain drain whereby many of Singapore’s best and brightest leave for a better life elsewhere.
 
I fuckin glad that nus pwned all those tiong unis! :D
 
You must understand that tertiary education has become a business, and industry unto itself. Good rankings serve as convincing marketing material which can be found on pamphlets and advertisements everywhere.
 
http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/asian-university-rankings/2014

1. NUS
2. KAIST
3. University of HK
4. Seoul National University
5. HK University of Science & Tech
6. The Chinese University of HK
7. NTU
8. Peking University
9. POSTECH
10. University of Tokyo


RUN has his doubts.
- University of Tokyo is clearly 2x better than nearly all of the Top-10 Asian universities. In my biased opinion, it should be the best in Asia (don't believe? ask the HR global MNCs)
- Tsinghua, Kyoto & Osaka University should be ranked on-par with NUS or even better; they are also clearly more outstanding than NTU and other HK universities
- Fudan, National Taiwan and Shanghai Jiaotong are also strangely ranked behind the HK & NTU universities.

I have works with morons from Tsinghua in my field, seriously they are not that good. And when I say they are morons I really mean it. Their exposure on hands on skills that are common in my field are a joke, they can talk till cows come home and that is about it. But when it comes to doing.....

fuck the PRC, if these are the qualities of their top universities, seriously I do not have much respect for their education system.
 
Take all these rankings with a heavy pinch of salt. Depending on how you define the criteria of which to assess, the rankings can be highly elastic.

At the end of the day, it serves as marketing material to appeal to prospective students. It is purely business.
 
Dear brothers and sisters

what do singaporeans gain when NUS and NTU are ranked top 10?

they are unable to find good and meaningful jobs and at the same time, many foreigners from Philippines, Myanmar, China, India flood the market with fake certificates?

what can our Singaporean students do to protect their basic rights?

how about NUS and NTU student bodies? Do they ever voice out their concerned or they are fully paid by PAP?

I tot all the tech billionaires dropped out of college?
 
Take all these rankings with a heavy pinch of salt. Depending on how you define the criteria of which to assess, the rankings can be highly elastic.

At the end of the day, it serves as marketing material to appeal to prospective students. It is purely business.

Cambridge ranks highy yet look at Pinky. Other examples include our scholar ministers. Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard etc for fuck?
 
SINGAPOREANS WANT JOBS IN SINGAPORE SHOULD KILL THE FUCKING PAPs FOR IMPORTING FOREIGN TRASH AND GIVING JOBS TO THE FUCKING FTs

KILL THE FUCKING PAPs



GET RID OF THE POISON IN SINGAPORE
HANG ALL THOSE FUCKING PAPs AND THEIR COLLABORATORS
BBQ THE BASTARD PAPs

AND SINGAPORE CAN BE AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER THAN SWITZERLAND

OR REMAIN HEAD DOWN DOWN AND ARSEHOLES UP HIGH HIGH TO BE FUCKED TO BE TIEWED TO BE KANNED BY THE PAP MAGGOTS COCKROACHES
Kill them all PAPs
Let GOD sort out the good from the really bad ones
The good PAPs can then eat joss sticks and candle wax from time to time
The bad PAPs like smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY will be raped and tiewed and kanned by legions of ghouls and demons and not ever
get time off to eat joss sticks and candle wax

Hang those PAP maggots cockroaches with piano wires from lamp posts to make them dance before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.

BBQ those PAP maggots cockroaches before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.

Cut a few more arseholes into those PAP maggots cockroaches to let out their shit before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.

Make those PAP maggots cockroaches eat joss sticks and candle wax before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.


None of those in PAP work for anyone but that smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY, to help him hold down Singaporeans to screw and fuck hundreds of BILLIONs from us all into smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY stinkapore sovereign funds.

They are there in PAP because LKY know that they are a bunch of self serving greedy bastards and scrapings of scums of society. To call them maggots cockroaches will be to insult real maggots and real cockroaches.
LKY will never allow good decent people into the PAP and good decent people will not want to get into the PAP.

Those in PAP are the most corrupt and moral degenerates and moral bankrupts and moral filths that are being presented to stinkaporeans as moral compasses.

Despite the leeching and fucking of singaporeans by the cheebye PAP and LKY, Singapore still managed to survive to date.
Despite their being hung as a fucking millstones around the necks of Singaporeans and the idiocy and corrupt manipulations of PAP and LKY, Singapore still not dead yet.

WE ALL ARE NOW WAITING FOR THE DEATH OF LKY IN COMING DAYS OR WEEKS.
WE ALL WILL YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AGAIN AND AGAIN DANCING SINGING ON TABLE TOPS AND STREETS

WE THEN WILL SEE THOSE IN PAP WITH SHARPENED KNIVES HOOTING ARSEHLOON A DOZEN NEW ARSEHOLES AND THE DEATH OF THE ENTIRE LEE KWA CLAN

WE THEN WILL PICK UP PIANO WIRES AND HANG ALL THOSE REMAINING PAP AND THEIR COLLABORATORS FROM LAMP POSTS AND SEE THOSE BASTARDS AND BITCHES DANCE.
AND HAPPINESS WILL RETURN TO OUR LAND.

AND STINKAPORE WILL BECOME SINGAPORE ONCE MORE.
 
Increment of school fees will be justified for studying in asia's best University..
 
King of the molehill and sinkies are happy? If your uni cannot beat south East Asian ones you are officially a third world country! Please talk when we beat Harvard MIT or Oxford.
 
what does anything mean in singapore anyway when we are half full of foreigners.

singapore might as well be Mcdonalds Inc,a MNC with over 60,000 employees in 135 countries.
 
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Any Lees from NUS/NTU ? Why?


http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/asian-university-rankings/2014

1. NUS
2. KAIST
3. University of HK
4. Seoul National University
5. HK University of Science & Tech
6. The Chinese University of HK
7. NTU
8. Peking University
9. POSTECH
10. University of Tokyo


RUN has his doubts.
- University of Tokyo is clearly 2x better than nearly all of the Top-10 Asian universities. In my biased opinion, it should be the best in Asia (don't believe? ask the HR global MNCs)
- Tsinghua, Kyoto & Osaka University should be ranked on-par with NUS or even better; they are also clearly more outstanding than NTU and other HK universities
- Fudan, National Taiwan and Shanghai Jiaotong are also strangely ranked behind the HK & NTU universities.
 
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