[Video] - Why HK's 無間道 is incomparably superior to the AMDK remake The Departed

[UltimaOnline]

 

[superpower]

Departed was well made but lacks the tension, pace and suspense of the original. It won Scorsese the Oscar but it's still inferior to the original.

It's sad that the HK and Canto movie industry is suffering from a lack of funding. TVB is now a pale shadow of its former glorious self.

 

[Ah Max]

Departed was well made but lacks the tension, pace and suspense of the original. It won Scorsese the Oscar but it's still inferior to the original.

It's sad that the HK and Canto movie industry is suffering from a lack of funding. TVB is now a pale shadow of its former glorious self.

no thanks 2 ze ccp. not juz a lack of funding but a lack of creative freedom.

 

[superpower]

no thanks 2 ze ccp. not juz a lack of funding but a lack of creative freedom.

Creative freedom maybe, but at its peak HK movies, were always based on triads and cops and robbers and kung fu, never political. These movies would still pass the CCP censors today.

The larger problem is lack of funding because production values in Korea and mainland China have long surpassed HK. I grew up watching TVB, John Woo, Jackie Chan, Wong Kar Wai, Johnnie To and their pantheon of star actors. Today I watch Chinese and Korean dramas, occasionally the good Taiwanese ones. All the good TVB actors and directors and martial arts choreographers are working on the mainland - bigger budget, higher pay, higher production values, more diverse roles. In the '70s, '80s and '90s there were no mainland drama productions. Ditto for Korean dramas, which only took off after 2000.

 

[UltimaOnline]

 

[syed putra]

Creative freedom maybe, but at its peak HK movies, were always based on triads and cops and robbers and kung fu, never political. These movies would still pass the CCP censors today.

The larger problem is lack of funding because production values in Korea and mainland China have long surpassed HK. I grew up watching TVB, John Woo, Jackie Chan, Wong Kar Wai, Johnnie To and their pantheon of star actors. Today I watch Chinese and Korean dramas, occasionally the goof Taiwanese ones. All the good TVB actors and directors and martial arts choreographers are working on the mainland - bigger budget, higher pay, higher productionvalues, more diverse roles. In the '70s, '80s and '90s there were no mainland drama productions. Ditto for Korean dramas, which only took off after 2000.

None can match kung fu hustle though.

 

[superpower]

None can match kung fu hustle though.

That was Stephen Chow's masterpiece. Hasn't surpassed it since. One of the all time great comedies - can't even think of a Hollywood film in the same genre.

 

[Ah Max]

Creative freedom maybe, but at its peak HK movies, were always based on triads and cops and robbers and kung fu, never political. These movies would still pass the CCP censors today.

The larger problem is lack of funding because production values in Korea and mainland China have long surpassed HK. I grew up watching TVB, John Woo, Jackie Chan, Wong Kar Wai, Johnnie To and their pantheon of star actors. Today I watch Chinese and Korean dramas, occasionally the good Taiwanese ones. All the good TVB actors and directors and martial arts choreographers are working on the mainland - bigger budget, higher pay, higher production values, more diverse roles. In the '70s, '80s and '90s there were no mainland drama productions. Ditto for Korean dramas, which only took off after 2000.

infernal affairs 1 didn’t pass ze ccp censors until it’s harmonised, ditto election 1. election 2 didn’t even get released in ze mainland. lol

 

[knowwhatyouwantinlife]

Creative freedom maybe, but at its peak HK movies, were always based on triads and cops and robbers and kung fu, never political. These movies would still pass the CCP censors today.

The larger problem is lack of funding because production values in Korea and mainland China have long surpassed HK. I grew up watching TVB, John Woo, Jackie Chan, Wong Kar Wai, Johnnie To and their pantheon of star actors. Today I watch Chinese and Korean dramas, occasionally the good Taiwanese ones. All the good TVB actors and directors and martial arts choreographers are working on the mainland - bigger budget, higher pay, higher production values, more diverse roles. In the '70s, '80s and '90s there were no mainland drama productions. Ditto for Korean dramas, which only took off after 2000.

Movies are usually funded from laundry shops...

 

[superpower]

infernal affairs 1 didn’t pass ze ccp censors until it’s harmonised, ditto election 1. election 2 didn’t even get released in ze mainland. lol

Mainland doesn't matter. Both Infernal Affairs and Election franchises showed that up till mid-2000s under CCP rule the HK directors still made creative movies, capture an international audience, make it to prestigious film festivals, spawn remakes, and make money at the box office.

Right now the industry is moribund. The CCP is still giving HK film makers a free hand, but money is not coming in. All the talent has gone to the mainland. Even Taiwan has more movies on Netflix than HK, more creative content, even though their budgets are also limited.

 

[Boonsiong]

Hi

 

[Ah Max]

Mainland doesn't matter. Both Infernal Affairs and Election franchises showed that up till mid-2000s under CCP rule the HK directors still made creative movies, capture an international audience, make it to prestigious film festivals, spawn remakes, and make money at the box office.

Right now the industry is moribund. The CCP is still giving HK film makers a free hand, but money is not coming in. All the talent has gone to the mainland. Even Taiwan has more movies on Netflix than HK, more creative content, even though their budgets are also limited.

my reply 2 u iz based on ur premise tat hk movies will pass ze ccp censors even today but obviously few did it unscathed.

no creative freedom = no funding so netflix originals r from outside hk n chyna, like taiwan, korea n thailand.

 

[Ah Max]

Mainland doesn't matter. Both Infernal Affairs and Election franchises showed that up till mid-2000s under CCP rule the HK directors still made creative movies, capture an international audience, make it to prestigious film festivals, spawn remakes, and make money at the box office.

Right now the industry is moribund. The CCP is still giving HK film makers a free hand, but money is not coming in. All the talent has gone to the mainland. Even Taiwan has more movies on Netflix than HK, more creative content, even though their budgets are also limited.

not i say 1, straight from ze horse’s mouth.

 

[superpower]

not i say 1, straight from ze horse’s mouth.

Johnnie To's greatest movies - Election, Vengeance, Running Out of Time, Mad Detective, etc - were all made after '97 handover. The decade after 2000 actually saw HK movies peak. Go figure.

 

[superpower]

my reply 2 u iz based on ur premise tat hk movies will pass ze ccp censors even today but obviously few did it unscathed.

no creative freedom = no funding so netflix originals r from outside hk n chyna, like taiwan, korea n thailand.

Actually there are many successful Chinese dramas (not originals) whose rights are bought over by Netflix. Creative freedom not an issue; viewership is key.

 

[Ah Max]

Johnnie To's greatest movies - Election, Vengeance, Running Out of Time, Mad Detective, etc - were all made after '97 handover. The decade after 2000 actually saw HK movies peak. Go figure.

very simpur 2 figure. until ze 2010s when winnie ze poo r in charge from 2012 n Sino-British Joint Declaration becum a historical document in 2017.