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Verdict - Manslaughter for the Downtown East killing?

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yesterday on my way home, i saw 1 uncle reading the chinese newspaper, cant recall wanbao or xinming.

as he flipped thru the pages, i saw this article.

the killers were convicted of manslaughter.

did any1 manage to see the article?
 
yesterday on my way home, i saw 1 uncle reading the chinese newspaper, cant recall wanbao or xinming.

as he flipped thru the pages, i saw this article.

the killers were convicted of manslaughter.

did any1 manage to see the article?

Yes, but many people expected this verdict right from the very beginning.
This is not the first time.
Some of those past offenders are already out on the street.
 
Aiyah, should have set a condition for these Ah Beng to go FREE.

That is they kill more Ah Beng of the same kind, ridding the society of Ah Beng pests once and for all! LOL
 
VERDICTS like this is put ON PURPOSE to SCARE Citizens.

They are VERY AFRAID Singapore CITIZENS become aggressive. SO by putting up MANSLAUGHTER instead of MURDER charge; technically telling CITIZENS do not be so kwai lun.

I agree many DARKER SKINNED past offenders who have killed people are back on the streets behaving VERY AGGRESSIVELY and speaking HOKIEN loudly to the bemuse (and my non-amusement); as if to frighten people that they are pai kias.

This kind of LAW also can. MAYBE the PARENTS of the deceased who were killed by these chapsshould take issue with the charge.
 
Yes, but many people expected this verdict right from the very beginning.
This is not the first time.
Some of those past offenders are already out on the street.

The fact that the victim is a gang member, his death is the result of gang fight, a riot between two rival gang. In such circumstances there'll always be reasonable doubt, murder charge will not stand.:p
 
The fact that the victim is a gang member, his death is the result of gang fight, a riot between two rival gang. In such circumstances there'll always be reasonable doubt, murder charge will not stand.:p
but isnt it a plan and was carried out?:confused:
 
Moral of the story, join a gang first before you decide to kill someone.
 
but isnt it a plan and was carried out?:confused:

I know where you are coming from but premeditation has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt. In a riot such as a gang clash, a gang fight, evidence of intent, malice aforethought, provocation and whatever other evidence there's circumstantial or otherwise may or may not be proven beyond reasonable doubt to be present or absent. Murder and manslaughter both are actually very serious crime. It's still homicide, the killing of a human being but of different degree. In a fight there's no telling who's going to get killed or who will get killed, victim or otherwise.:p
 
Moral of the story, join a gang first before you decide to kill someone.

Learn something from the event . Next time if want to kill some one punch the enemy first let him hit back then use knife to kill him off. So no death penalty.
 
"Culpable homicide is not murder if it is committed without premeditation in a sudden fight in the heat of passion upon a sudden quarrel, and without the offender having taken undue advantage or acted in a cruel or unusual manner"

In this case when the gang called other members, armed themselves and with numbers, there is clear planning and therefore premeditation. There is no "sudden" quarrel.

Unfortunately the Police will never pursue the murder charge when the assailants and the victims are secret society members. The only exception was a case involving army boys with SS background from armour that killed another SS member in Kallang Park. All kinds of reasons have surfaced including the inability to identify the person who delivered the fatal blow, cut or insertion. They will end up with 7 years jail but come out after 5 years. They then wear a badge of honour claiming they have killed someone and are some big dog. If you notice despite the violence, SS members will never kill a non SS member because they know the death penalty will kick in. SS members will also attack in large numbers and will continue to slash, stab and cut even when the victim is obviously dead. The next day, they will voluntarily surrender themselves.

A precedent has been set and no one seems to care.
 
In this case when the gang called other members, armed themselves and with numbers, there is clear planning and therefore premeditation. There is no "sudden" quarrel.

Unfortunately the Police will never pursue the murder charge when the assailants and the victims are secret society members....

There's a difference between the interpretation of opinion and interpretation of the law. Facts may form opinions but the law needs more than that. What you see is not what you get, reports you read may not even be details of the facts let alone evidence beyond reasonable doubts. You dont put a murder charge on someone and simply not pursue it. It's evidence and evidence to be proven beyond reasonable doubt, secret society members or not, simple as that.
 
yesterday on my way home, i saw 1 uncle reading the chinese newspaper, cant recall wanbao or xinming.

as he flipped thru the pages, i saw this article.

the killers were convicted of manslaughter.

did any1 manage to see the article?
some got charged with rioting nia nia...cheep cheep
 
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