Vancouver A Good Place to Emigrate To!

[johnny333]

Not to mention that Canada is full of PRCs and kelingkia like the "Nice Guy Shot Dead" in the newspaper...

PRC & Indians are not dumb, they know where the good places are.

As for murders did you hear about the murders committed in Spore by PRCs At least in Canada they are trying to weed out secret society members.

 

[johnny333]

Canada is like the Polytechinic in the 1990s. Those people with 'A' Levels whose results are not good enough to enter NUS will enter the polytechnics. :p

Typical Singkie attitude

In Canada you don't need a Uni education to make a decent living. There are bus drivers with & without uni degrees. Blue collar jobs can make more than those white collar jobs.

The uni students there get a uni education because of interest. For a career they can get job training from their polys & community colleges. Unlike in Spore where a degree is necessary if you want a decent paying job. Even then there is no guarantee you don't end up driving a taxi

 

[american]

Typical Singkie attitude

Sinkie or not, I'm a full fledged American and I swear by the Stars & Stripes.

And you ,

 

[eatshitndie]

Canada is like the Polytechinic in the 1990s. Those people with 'A' Levels whose results are not good enough to enter NUS will enter the polytechnics. :p

poly grads from sg are actually better than uni grads from sg. that's pretty much a well known fact among hiring entrepreuners in silicon valley familiar with sg education. of course, all sg students except for stanford grads are way behind iit cohorts and the cream from china. the problem with hiring sg students on the stanford program is that they have to return to sg at the end of 1 year of internship. who the fuck would want to give them an important and long term project? they are thus mostly relegated to grunt tasks.

 

[johnny333]

poly grads from sg are actually better than uni grads from sg. that's pretty much a well known fact among hiring entrepreuners in silicon valley familiar with sg education. .

Yes, I knew someone who went from Spore poly to the Univ of California. Took up US citizenship & never saw him again.

With so many friends who have left, I feel lonely :(

 

[junkmail]

Hi Johnny333,

Vancouver seems like a lovely place to migrate to.

Can you please share with me the extent of racial discrimination? I believe it should be very minimal because of the sizeable chinese population. But these chinese are mainly hongkongers, so is there a sense of isolation in the post-singaporeans community there?

Also how easy is it to assimilate into their culture? Are the Canadians welcoming of chinese who try, really try, to pledge their value to Canada?

I also understand that the unemployment rate is rather high. So is business the surer route to go in Canada? If so, what sort of business is self-sustaining?

Thank you.

 

[southwest]

This should give you an idea to the extent of discrimination. If you have a non-English sounding family name, you will find it harder to get a job.

And if you don't have Canadian qualifications, it's going to be harder. They don't recognize foreign qualifications.

The 3 major problems in Canada are (1) High unemployment (2) High taxes (3) High cost of living

 

[junkmail]

I have considered and discounted all that.

What I am interested in are comments from those who have lived there, feel good about the place.

I wish to learn from the successful, how they make their lives successful.

If our forefathers listened to all the negative reports about singapore, they would not have come over.

 

[BlueCat]

a lot of places are also good to emigrate if you have the CASH....

 

[neddy]

This should give you an idea to the extent of discrimination. If you have a non-English sounding family name, you will find it harder to get a job.

And if you don't have Canadian qualifications, it's going to be harder. They don't recognize foreign qualifications.

The 3 major problems in Canada are (1) High unemployment (2) High taxes (3) High cost of living

There are related studies done in USA and Australia, the results are quite similar. But why should that stop anyone from looking for work.

A number of Aussies work in Singapore before. When they return to Australia, and saw a Singaporean in the CV, I can guarantee that the Singaporean, if suitable, will be shortlisted.

When I recruit, I am a bias towards those nationalities that I worked before.
Eg I am less likely to employ a South African white male or an Aussie white female compared to a Far East Asian.

 

[neddy]

a lot of places are also good to emigrate if you have the CASH....

The question is whether you can adapt and understand the system or not.
Frustration happens after the initial honeymoon, esp when you realise too late where your money disappear into.

 

[neddy]

I have considered and discounted all that.

What I am interested in are comments from those who have lived there, feel good about the place.

I wish to learn from the successful, how they make their lives successful.

If our forefathers listened to all the negative reports about singapore, they would not have come over.

I do not think the foreign talents going to Singapore worry too much about the negative things.

I think the best lesson to be successful comes from within. You have to do things that few will dare to do. And if you persever and know what your objectives are, you will succeed. People thought I am crazy to live in a desert for a resource engineering firm that has rusting equipment lying unused. Then the boom came.

 

[johnny333]

Hi Johnny333,

Vancouver seems like a lovely place to migrate to.

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Sorry, I'm more familar with Edmonton. Lived there for a few years before coming back to Spore.

Have only been to Vancouver as a tourist. I like what I see, in my opinion its nicer than Toronto. When your living in that area its easy to get around by car. I've driven to Vancouver, Seattle, Palo Alto, SF, Anaheim, Vegas,...

My relative has been living in Vancouver since the 80's. Before that he was staying in Spore, went to Germany to study & came back to Spore to work before finally deciding to leave for Vancouver for good.

He did his homework & visited the place & looked around before moving with his wife & 1 son. In fact he bought a house before he made the big move. He's now got 6 kids & seems happy

My neighbour in Spore left with their 2 kids & moved to live in Surrey, BC. Property is cheaper there than Vancouver.

Vancouver is a very cosmopolitan place you'll like the place. Should go take a look yourself. Rent a car & visit the towns of BC, Rockies( Banff & Jasper ) which is next door in Alberta.

 

[johnny333]

,
Also how easy is it to assimilate into their culture? Are the Canadians welcoming of chinese who try, really try, to pledge their value to Canada?

I also understand that the unemployment rate is rather high. So is business the surer route to go in Canada? If so, what sort of business is self-sustaining?

Thank you.

Yes there is discrimination but so what, I've seen the same discrimination in Spore. My angmo boss is married to a malay & has only hired malay staff. My chinese colleagues know about his anti-chinese sentiments & have quit to join other companies or gotten transfers to other depts.

In Spore discrimination is along racial, school, company, political affiliation,sex, age,... lines. In fact I've seen more discrimination in Spore than in Canada.

When I graduated from a Canadian Uni there were plenty of hongkie & Spore students who managed to get jobs, including myself.

Asian work ethic is strong & many bosses value that. Must also understand that in Canada your work colleagues will likely be other PRs(Permanent resident). For example where I worked there were many Americans, new Canadians & PR.

It is actually quite rude to ask someone if they are a foreigner but after you work with someone you find out where they're from. Asking how much they make is also rude

 

[IWC2006]

There are related studies done in USA and Australia, the results are quite similar. But why should that stop anyone from looking for work.

A number of Aussies work in Singapore before. When they return to Australia, and saw a Singaporean in the CV, I can guarantee that the Singaporean, if suitable, will be shortlisted.

When I recruit, I am a bias towards those nationalities that I worked before.
Eg I am less likely to employ a South African white male or an Aussie white female compared to a Far East Asian.

care to share your experiences with South African white? I have one reporting to me, he's ok in general but just not producing quality work & fairly slow in delivering tasks on time. I usually have concerns with PRC or indians because of communications skills and their cultures make it difficult to blend in..not sure about the 'Aussie white female' though.

 

[IWC2006]

Yes there is discrimination but so what, I've seen the same discrimination in Spore. My angmo boss is married to a malay & has only hired malay staff. My chinese colleagues know about his anti-chinese sentiments & have quit to join other companies or gotten transfers to other depts.

In Spore discrimination is along racial, school, company, political affiliation,sex, age,... lines. In fact I've seen more discrimination in Spore than in Canada.

When I graduated from a Canadian Uni there were plenty of hongkie & Spore students who managed to get jobs, including myself.

Asian work ethic is strong & many bosses value that. Must also understand that in Canada your work colleagues will likely be other PRs(Permanent resident). For example where I worked there were many Americans, new Canadians & PR.

It is actually quite rude to ask someone if they are a foreigner but after you work with someone you find out where they're from. Asking how much they make is also rude

My cousin migrated to Vancouver years ago and she never looked back since. I know the welfare system is very good, more so then in Australia. I must visit her once of these days. I've been to Seattle but just never crossover to Vancouver, which is a pity.

Only thing is the harsh cold weather and being too far away from home

 

[neddy]

care to share your experiences with South African white? I have one reporting to me, he's ok in general but just not producing quality work & fairly slow in delivering tasks on time. I usually have concerns with PRC or indians because of communications skills and their cultures make it difficult to blend in..not sure about the 'Aussie white female' though.

The problem with Afrikaans are their snobbishness, stubbornness and expectations. They like to bypass the Asian supervisors and stay with their own kind. They are slow, do things the silly ways and less care about rules.

They fail to realise that in Aus, they are hundreds others who can do their job, unlike in SA, where they are treated like kings. So, they get angry and always compare and whine about Aus. Even the rain get blamed. It rain in the wrong season in Perth which is on the same latitude with Cape Town.

 

[neddy]

Where did you go to

If you don't mind me asling.

I am in Western Australia at the moment.
Basically, same time zone as the Asian emergence markets.

Thought of joining my relatives in BC but having sunset at 10pm in summer is not what I like. Not sure what time for dinner. hahaha

In terms of pay, Australia is better, but it is pretty remote here. The Malaysians were here long time, so are the Japs. The Chinese, Indian and Russians are "recent", they are bastards.

Who knows, I may move to Wood Buffalo some time in the future, if I decide mining the yellow cake is too risky for my health. The first uranium mine is due to $open$ in 2 years $elling to the Japs.

 

[johnny333]

Only thing is the harsh cold weather and being too far away from home

One of the main reasons Vancouver is so popular with asians is that
the winters are mild, it rains in winter. Snow is so rare that when it snows there is chaos because no one is prepared.

If you want to see snow you'll have to drive to the mountains.

Another reason for Vancouvers popularity is that its only one flight away from HK. Although its a long flight. When I went back to edmonton for holidays it was a pain to have to change to connecting flights.

I stayed in Edmonton for many years . Had temperatures going down to -30 to -40s. Must remember that its only in winter that you get such cold temperatures & even then there are days when the temp is +1, +2,. +3 ...

Central heating is common in Canada. I remember going about in T-shirt & shorts in winter in my apartment. Cars have heaters, you have heated bus shelters, you have malls, ... If you visit Edmonton, be sure to visit West Edmonton Mall, its got: casinos, hotels, shops, hockey rink, beach with surfing, chapel,... & parking is free

 

[IWC2006]

One of the main reasons Vancouver is so popular with asians is that
the winters are mild, it rains in winter. Snow is so rare that when it snows there is chaos because no one is prepared.

If you want to see snow you'll have to drive to the mountains.

Another reason for Vancouvers popularity is that its only one flight away from HK. Although its a long flight. When I went back to edmonton for holidays it was a pain to have to change to connecting flights.

I stayed in Edmonton for many years . Had temperatures going down to -30 to -40s. Must remember that its only in winter that you get such cold temperatures & even then there are days when the temp is +1, +2,. +3 ...

Central heating is common in Canada. I remember going about in T-shirt & shorts in winter in my apartment. Cars have heaters, you have heated bus shelters, you have malls, ... If you visit Edmonton, be sure to visit West Edmonton Mall, its got: casinos, hotels, shops, hockey rink, beach with surfing, chapel,... & parking is free

Nah, i don't really fancy a place with 'too many' asians. I try to stay away from suburb have many of those esp from PRC & india. If u live the same way as before, might as well stayback in Sg.

I haven't seen my cousin for ages, might pay her a visit there someday.