Anyone knows if you use vpn to access forums, than the admins will not be able to detect when you create clone accounts because no ip address is revealed?
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Use vpn can avoid detection of clone in forum?
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VPN still shows an IP address.
If you want to create clone accounts you don't need a VPN just register with a different email address.
When register a new account in forum is sure must use different email address what?
The only thing is when use vpn, can same ip address accounts be detected anot?
Unless you have a static IP address your IP will not be unique. If you have a dynamic IP the one you are using now could be assigned to someone else tomorrow.
By default, it will be static ip?
fuckwarezone admin always can detect me when i create clone account. This means by default its static ip?
Yours is a dynamic IP. Unless you pay extra you usually won't be assigned a static IP.
If fuckwarezone can detect your clone accounts it probably means they have access to the MAC address of your device. This is usually via a mobile app.
Are you using the fuckwarezone app?
No.
I either use my labtop or my smartphone. How come hwz still can detect my clone account?
Who do i pay extra for static ip? I am using singtel. So i pay extra to singtel and request for static ip?
You can get it for free
https://myrepublic.net/sg/add-ons/static-ip/
Why would you want one?
As for fuckwarezone being able to detect your clone accounts I don't have a ready answer but then I am not a network expert so perhaps someone with the necessary knowledge can answer this.
However you have to remember that HWZ is ulimately owned by the government and they may have deployed network tools or installed cookies on your devices. They have infinite resources when it comes to monitoring the net.
Regardless of your IP address, the ISPs can still trace you if the need arises, whether dynamic or static. If this is what you're asking. I do not know enough about VPNs to comment if our ISPs can still track you when you use one. I would guess yes, but leave it to the experts to comment.
This is only free for myrepublic customers?
I am using singtel. Might as well i pay to singtel to get static ip?
This forum is owned by you?
Than you should know how is ip address being detected to find out clone accounts?
still able to detect you from the range of dynamic address by which ISP assigned
You are using a dynamic IP address so I cannot identify you via your IP address. Neither can I ban you via your IP address.
However if you use a static IP address I can ban that IP.
However you can easily get around the ban by signing in via a VPN.
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In the past, this has generally been done for security purposes – think of those warnings you get when you log into certain online services from a new phone or tablet. Today however, it is increasingly being used by marketers to learn about us, study our behavior and sell us things.
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Organizations are becoming more and more capable of using our device footprints to effectively de-anonymize us, monitor our actions and predict what we will do next. For retailers, for example, this means they can begin to track our actions from the first time we show interest in a product, to the way we browse sales listings, right up to point-of-sale.
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Similarly, devices often change hands, are shared between groups, or have their fingerprint fundamentally altered in some way by, for example, operating system updates. This makes device fingerprinting a bit more complex than it first seems. In order to operate effectively, it requires a continuous ongoing process of cross-referencing and verification which is demanding in terms of CPU power and data bandwidth, making it a Big Data operation.
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Privacy awareness site amiunique.org refers to device fingerprinting as the “cookie-less monster” due to how it allows us to be tracked without storing cookies.
Monitoring and tracking via device fingerprinting is more difficult for us to circumvent than prior technologies, which makes is unsurprisingly somewhat controversial, and concerns have been raised over the privacy challenges it represents.
I mentioned this to Hale, who said that the solution is for companies to be very up-front and clear about how they are collecting data, and the reasons for it. “Two things need to occur – there needs to be the ability to opt-out of being tracked.
“And then if they do choose to opt-in, the terms of service need to indicate very clearly what is going to go on.”
This might mean sending more, and clearer, notifications to users to let them know they are being tracked. Alongside the “cookie law” notifications that EU users now see on almost every website, further notifications warning that behavior may be tracked through device fingerprints could become common – or even legally obligatory in more privacy-aware jurisdictions.
In other places which have been slower to impose legislation on what marketers can do with personal information, such as the US, the implications could be greater.
“Something we had a significant conversation with our lawyers about was, who owns this data?” Hale tells me.
“Access points can often be provided by third parties – you have a big retail chain with thousands of stores, and a third party managing their access points.
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For anyone who doesn’t want to be tracked, be it via cookies or device fingerprinting, there are solutions that include the use of virtual private networks (VPNs) that make it look as if we are connecting from a different machine, anonymous internet protocols such as TOR, and operating systems designed to only publish device information which will keep you indistinguishable from other users. Unless you are a whistleblower or want to hide from a despotic regime, these may seem like overkill if you simply want to avoid your bank or supermarket finding out too much about you.
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In the past, this has generally been done for security purposes – think of those warnings you get when you log into certain online services from a new phone or tablet. Today however, it is increasingly being used by marketers to learn about us, study our behavior and sell us things.
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Organizations are becoming more and more capable of using our device footprints to effectively de-anonymize us, monitor our actions and predict what we will do next. For retailers, for example, this means they can begin to track our actions from the first time we show interest in a product, to the way we browse sales listings, right up to point-of-sale.
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Similarly, devices often change hands, are shared between groups, or have their fingerprint fundamentally altered in some way by, for example, operating system updates. This makes device fingerprinting a bit more complex than it first seems. In order to operate effectively, it requires a continuous ongoing process of cross-referencing and verification which is demanding in terms of CPU power and data bandwidth, making it a Big Data operation.
Nevertheless, as tools and as-a-service frameworks become available, it puts this kind of marketing firepower within the reach of moderately-resourced businesses. This therefore means we are likely to see a lot more of it in the near future.
Device Fingerprinting overcomes some of the inefficiencies of using other means of customer-tracking. Most notably this includes cookies installed in our web browsers, which businesses have long used monitor our behavior when we visit their websites. The problem is that cookies can deleted whenever we want, and its relatively easy for us to stop specific sites, services or companies from using them to track us.
Device fingerprinting doesn’t have this limitation as it doesn’t rely on storing data locally on our machines, instead is simply monitors data transmitted and received as devices connect with each other.
Privacy awareness site amiunique.org refers to device fingerprinting as the “cookie-less monster” due to how it allows us to be tracked without storing cookies.
Monitoring and tracking via device fingerprinting is more difficult for us to circumvent than prior technologies, which makes is unsurprisingly somewhat controversial, and concerns have been raised over the privacy challenges it represents.
I mentioned this to Hale, who said that the solution is for companies to be very up-front and clear about how they are collecting data, and the reasons for it. “Two things need to occur – there needs to be the ability to opt-out of being tracked.
“And then if they do choose to opt-in, the terms of service need to indicate very clearly what is going to go on.”
This might mean sending more, and clearer, notifications to users to let them know they are being tracked. Alongside the “cookie law” notifications that EU users now see on almost every website, further notifications warning that behavior may be tracked through device fingerprints could become common – or even legally obligatory in more privacy-aware jurisdictions.
In other places which have been slower to impose legislation on what marketers can do with personal information, such as the US, the implications could be greater.
“Something we had a significant conversation with our lawyers about was, who owns this data?” Hale tells me.
“Access points can often be provided by third parties – you have a big retail chain with thousands of stores, and a third party managing their access points.
“Who controls that data? The customer needs to be aware and notified at opt-in that [the terms of service apply to] the company which has the retail stores, not for the access point provider, who can actually resell that data if they wanted to.”
For anyone who doesn’t want to be tracked, be it via cookies or device fingerprinting, there are solutions that include the use of virtual private networks (VPNs) that make it look as if we are connecting from a different machine, anonymous internet protocols such as TOR, and operating systems designed to only publish device information which will keep you indistinguishable from other users. Unless you are a whistleblower or want to hide from a despotic regime, these may seem like overkill if you simply want to avoid your bank or supermarket finding out too much about you.
But it is a strategy which is becoming increasingly popular. Last month YouGov reported that 16% of UK internet users have used a VPN, and 25% of those did it in order to avoid advertisers tracking their behavior
This forum is different from fuckwarezone forum?
That is why fuckwarezone admin can ban me and my clone accounts?
Like I said fuckwarezone is owned by the government and they have the resources to deploy scripts and create cookies that can identify devices connected to their network. The detection is done at server level and this has nothing to do with the software that runs the forum.
I do not have the same resources so I am unable to do the same.
You can run an experiment and try to create a clone account using the TOR browser. Let me know if you succeed in bypassing detection.
https://www.torproject.org/
Boss,
I am using PUFFIN VPN.
But, when I Google "check IP address", it was able to reveal my IP address, etc.
How come?
Thanks.
Puffin is not a VPN it is a proxy and the Puffin browser forwards your IP address to the websites that you visit.
It uses the "x-forwarded-for" command. X-Forwarded-For - Wikipedia
If I ban an IP address that is dynamic then anyone else using the same ISP might end up getting banned as well. This is because dynamic IPs are not unique to a particular account.
Puffin browser does not hide your IP address.
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