"Uprooting the Leading Causes of Death" by Dr Michael Greger

[takashi]

[video=youtube;30gEiweaAVQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gEiweaAVQ[/video]

"DESCRIPTION: Death in America is largely a foodborne illness. Focusing on studies published just over the last year in peer-reviewed scientific medical journals, Michael Greger, M.D., offers practical advice on how best to feed ourselves and our families to prevent, treat, and even reverse many of the top 15 killers in the United States."​

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

What's the use of living so long when u only eat veggies?

Might as well stay home your whole life if u scared of getting knocked down by a car!

 

[frenchbriefs]

oh nooooooooo tonychat is right,in order to reduce ur risk of heart disease and stop the progression of plague buildup in your arteries(leading to heart attack),you have to lower your cholesterol level down to that of a pure vegetarian/soursop diet.

 

[yellowarse]

Basically many of the Western death-causing diseases like heart disease, diabetes and cancer are due to a combination of diet and lifestyle.

You don't have to go off meat, unless you're doing it for religious or ideological reasons. Just stick to a balanced diet, rich in fibre, fruit and vegetables, and whole foods prepared in a healthful way like steaming, grilling, baking, stewing, rather than deep-frying. Avoid too much of processed foods and snacks.

Stick to a moderate intensity exercise regimen – brisk walking for 50 min 3x a week. Get enough sleep – 7 to 8 hrs a day, and reduce stress.

It's not rocket science. The Okinawans have the longest life expectancy in the world, and they're not vegans. Fresh produce and seafood form a large part of their diet.

 

[frenchbriefs]

oh nooooooooooooooo tonychat is right again,the incidence of cancer is lowest among vegetarian diets especially fast growing cancers like lymphomia.no wonder arse loong is a three time cancer sufferer,he must be stuffing down those fried chicken wings and a fan of those korean bbq all you can eat.

omg tonychat's pussy must be weeping with joy now.

 

[takashi]

omg tonychat's pussy must be weeping with joy now.

You mean even his pussy is a vegetarian, like this? :p


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[takashi]

The Okinawans have the longest life expectancy in the world, and they're not vegans. Fresh produce and seafood form a large part of their diet.

Unless I'm mistaken, I think there's a significant difference between fish and pork/beef...

 

[yellowarse]

Unless I'm mistaken, I think there's a significant difference between fish and pork/beef...

A little pork or beef won't do any harm. The Japs love their Kobe beef; the Bamans love their pork. Everything in moderation.

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The Chinese village with the secret to long life

Tourists paying homage to Bama's centenarians are bringing in millions. But the Guangxi county's success may be its undoing

Huang Puxin, who says he is 113, waits for visitors at his home in Longevity Village in Bama, Guangxi, which is famed for the long lives of its residents. The character behind him, partially seen, means longevity. Photograph: Tania Branigan for the Guardian Tania Branigan/GuardianTania Branigan in Longevity Village, Guangxi

Monday 30 December 2013 15.58 GMT Last modified on Thursday 22 May 2014 12.10 BST



Her T-shirted charges trailing behind her, the young guide swept into Huang Puxin's home and flicked her tour flag towards the centenarian, who was waiting on the sofa beneath a giant bas-relief inscribed with the word "longevity". "The old man is 113," she mumbled into her headset, turning away.

The tourists stuffed cash into piled-up red envelopes and moved in beside Huang, patting his knee as they handed him the money and posed for a picture.

Huang has lived through wars, famines, the rise and fall of Maoism and much more. But his life's latest turn may be its unlikeliest: reinvention as a tourist attraction.
Bama county, in southern Guangxi, used to be one of China's poorest places. Now, thanks to residents such as Huang, it is a travel hotspot.

Famed for centuries for its residents' unusual longevity, it now has 81 centenarians. Proportional to population, that is roughly five times China's average.
A decade ago the best-known settlement in the county rebranded itself as Longevity Village, and in the past few years coverage and word of mouth have prompted a surge in visits. More than 640,000 people came in the first five months of 2013, boosting the economy by 406m yuan (£41m), say officials.

An estimated 20,000 health tourists – many times the number of native residents – live in the surrounding district, staying for months at a time. Thousands more arrive on coach trips, to receive the benediction of the oldest residents.

Longevity Village in Bama, Guangxi, has undergone rapid development in the past few years as tourists come to discover the secrets of long life. Photograph: Tania Branigan for the Guardian Tania Branigan/GuardianThick stands of bamboo, graceful eucalyptus and glossy chestnut trees line the road into Bama. Its stunning karst landscape is pierced by caverns and rises into steep crags.

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"Even in winter it's not cold at all. The mountains are beautiful and the river is the colour of jade," said Dai Guifang, 65, who runs a construction firm in north-eastern China. "The air is very good. I feel uncomfortable if I smoke even half a cigarette in Shenyang – but in Bama I'm fine if I smoke a pack a day." Her late husband spent his last few months here. She believes the stay prolonged his life and reduced the pain of his stomach cancer. "A lot of people were sick but got better after living there – it's the water. It has a lot of minerals," she said.

Most tourists drink the waters and the bolder ones bathe in it, with mixed results. Some have drowned, report residents. Further up the valley, scores of middle-aged and elderly people perch on rocks in the gloom of the giant Baimo cavern. A few stand with their faces turned to giant boulders, pressing their hands to the stone. This is geomagnetic therapy, they say, enthusing about its beneficial effect on the heart, the brain and even varicose veins.

Cui Xuedong, 58, pulled up his shirt to show the scar across his torso; he had just had a second round of surgery for liver cancer. He was sceptical when a neighbour urged him to try Bama but said the impact was unmistakable: "After 30-odd days my face was rosy again. When I arrived I felt exhausted every afternoon, whatever I did in the morning. Soon I could swim a kilometre and still kick a shuttlecock around."

He has now moved to Bama and runs an organisation bringing city dwellers to the area, while his wife exports hundreds of tonnes of its water.
Cui believes the area's geomagnetism and negatively charged oxygen ions are as important as its relaxed, modest lifestyle. Experts scorn that and see simpler explanations for the town's longevity: in large part, poverty and isolation.

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Yang Ze, deputy director of the Institute of Geriatrics at Beijing hospital, began researching Bama's secret in the mid-90s. One key, he said, is natural selection. The area is remote and mountainous. In the old days, it took three days to leave the hills, so there was relatively little mixing with the outside world. In tough conditions, without medical treatment, the strong genes remained; the weak were eliminated.

In particular, he said, Bama residents have mostly inherited a gene from both parents that helps the body to produce a protein called apolipoprotein-E. That combines with fats to form a lipoprotein that reduces excess cholesterol.

Lifestyle played a part, too. People worked hard in the fields. Much of their food was steamed, not fried. When Yang first arrived, they ate "rice porridge with a bit of salt, and hemp oil", and seldom consumed meat. Old people were surrounded by relatives. "They were not lonely and were happy. They were calm, had fewer desires, did not compete, and were more optimistic," Yang said.

Now the area's new-found popularity is destroying its very attractions. "The new residents bring a Beijing lifestyle to Bama. They shout in the mountains; they turn up the music to do exercise in the morning," he added.

Hammers and drills disturb the once-tranquil scene thanks to the soaring demand for rented property. Cars clog the narrow streets, pumping out fumes. Residents complain the river is polluted because visitors dump rubbish and because the sewage systems cannot cope with so many people. These days, the young prosper by selling goods to tourists rather than by labouring. And the eldest can sit at home, on a couch, and wait for red envelopes.

As the area has grown wealthier and less isolated, it has also grown less healthy. Bama is a microcosm of China: its burst of development made its shift from diseases of poverty to those of affluence even more pronounced.

A tourist stops to talk to Huang Meijian, 99, and her 76-year-old niece Huang Meijie. Photograph: Tania Branigan for the Guardian Tania Branigan/Guardian"The centenarians eat braised pork every day. Since they have got richer, their diet has been changing," Yang said. "Last time I was there, I told them problems such as high blood sugar and high blood pressure were appearing in this village, and that if they were not careful, it would lead to death. They did not listen to me and despised [my advice]. They said they had just started to get rich, and we were trying to stop them."

In 2005 there were 17 or 18 people aged over 100, but these days there are just two, he thinks – not seven, as the village claims. An Italian, aged 111, is officially the world's oldest man.

Yang believes Bama could soon lose all its centenarians. Not only are the next generation likely to have shorter lives, even those who are already elderly are unlikely to reach 100, he suggests. But having struggled for years to feed themselves, Bama's elderly see little to lament in this new world of plenty. "In my time there were a lot of wars. A lot of people starved to death. A lot of people were hungry," ruminated Huang Puxin.

"I have had a lot of happy times, but the best is now," observed Huang Makan, a few houses down, with a flash of her exquisite smile.

A tiny figure in a padded jacket, with a jade bracelet on each wrist, she says that she is 108, has never had a day's sickness, and enjoys the constant company. "Many people come to see me. I hope I live until 200," she confided.

Additional research by Cecily Huang

How they did it

Living a long life, Bama-style, according to those who have managed it:

Huang Puxin, 113: Be a good person. Have a good heart.

Huang Makan, 108: Eat green, organic, simple foods. I eat sweetcorn congee a lot. I don't have many demands.

Huang Meijian, 99: Work and walk around every day.

Dr Yang Ze's (strinkingly similar) advice

1. Treat yourself and others well, be more tolerant to yourself and others, be optimistic. Love life, love your family, have love to offer to people and be open-minded.
2. Have a healthy lifestyle. Neither eat too much nor stay hungry. Keep your diet bland. Eat more vegetables and fruits, and less protein and carbohydrates.
3. Do more exercise. All centenarians help themselves and do everything by themselves … They go farming in the mountains, they cook for themselves.
4. Bama women have children late: they give birth to their first baby at 27 and the last baby is usually around 42 or 43.

 

[takashi]

A little pork or beef won't do any harm.

I agree, but it MUST be REALLY little.

And I think this is the key:

Lifestyle played a part, too. People worked hard in the fields. Much of their food was steamed, not fried. When Yang first arrived, they ate "rice porridge with a bit of salt, and hemp oil", and seldom consumed meat. Old people were surrounded by relatives. "They were not lonely and were happy. They were calm, had fewer desires, did not compete, and were more optimistic," Yang said.
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How they did it
Living a long life, Bama-style, according to those who have managed it:

Huang Puxin, 113: Be a good person. Have a good heart.

Huang Makan, 108: Eat green, organic, simple foods. I eat sweetcorn congee a lot. I don't have many demands.

Huang Meijian, 99: Work and walk around every day.

Dr Yang Ze's (strinkingly similar) advice

1. Treat yourself and others well, be more tolerant to yourself and others, be optimistic. Love life, love your family, have love to offer to people and be open-minded.
2. Have a healthy lifestyle. Neither eat too much nor stay hungry. Keep your diet bland. Eat more vegetables and fruits, and less protein and carbohydrates.
3. Do more exercise. All centenarians help themselves and do everything by themselves … They go farming in the mountains, they cook for themselves.
4. Bama women have children late: they give birth to their first baby at 27 and the last baby is usually around 42 or 43.

 

[takashi]

By the way, I discovered that video by Dr Michael Greger only after discovering this first:

[video=youtube;HsXbbSshEkY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsXbbSshEkY[/video]

 

[Patriot]

[h=2]Dr Yang Ze's (strinkingly similar) advice[/h]

1. Treat yourself and others well, be more tolerant to yourself and others, be optimistic. Love life, love your family, have love to offer to people and be open-minded.


2. Have a healthy lifestyle. Neither eat too much nor stay hungry. Keep your diet bland. Eat more vegetables and fruits, and less protein and carbohydrates.


3. Do more exercise. All centenarians help themselves and do everything by themselves … They go farming in the mountains, they cook for themselves.


4. Bama women have children late: they give birth to their first baby at 27 and the last baby is usually around 42 or 43.

 

[tonychat]

Basically many of the Western death-causing diseases like heart disease, diabetes and cancer are due to a combination of diet and lifestyle.

You don't have to go off meat, unless you're doing it for religious or ideological reasons. Just stick to a balanced diet, rich in fibre, fruit and vegetables, and whole foods prepared in a healthful way like steaming, grilling, baking, stewing, rather than deep-frying. Avoid too much of processed foods and snacks.

Stick to a moderate intensity exercise regimen – brisk walking for 50 min 3x a week. Get enough sleep – 7 to 8 hrs a day, and reduce stress.

It's not rocket science. The Okinawans have the longest life expectancy in the world, and they're not vegans. Fresh produce and seafood form a large part of their diet.

you don't have to go off meat..hahaha i heard that a zillion times from meat eating losers..

it is not that you cannot do without meat, it is that you cannot accept your preconceived and indoctrinated notion of needing to include meat in your meals..

I am done with the caveman primitive notion of having meat in the diet and slowly and surely newer generations will consist of more people going for vegetarian / vegan diet and mostly will gear towards Vegan eventually.

You got to look at what Okinawans did that lead to longest life expectancy if that is so.

i am sure it is not just because they include seafood in the diet that lead them to live longer. That is just a preconceived statement from a meat eating loser.

 

[tonychat]

Maybe i should remind meat eating losers of my diet again:

Morning is usually my 1200ml of organic juice followed by my mid morning snack of organic superfruits

This is called the anti-cancer diet too.

 

[yellowarse]

You got to look at what Okinawans did that lead to longest life expectancy if that is so.

i am sure it is not just because they include seafood in the diet that lead them to live longer. That is just a preconceived statement from a meat eating loser.

Of course it's not 'just because they include seafood in the diet'. It's all the other things as well: fresh produce, fruit, lots of physical activity, low stress, positive attitude towards life. Ditto for the Bamans, dickhead.

I brought up the Okinawans to show that eating meat – if in moderation – is not a hindrance to long life expectancy. If you don't want to eat meat, it's your choice. But don't say that only a vegan diet gives you a long life.

 

[tonychat]

Of course it's not 'just because they include seafood in the diet'. It's all the other things as well: fresh produce, fruit, lots of physical activity, low stress, positive attitude towards life. Ditto for the Bamans, dickhead.

I brought up the Okinawans to show that eating meat – if in moderation – is not a hindrance to long life expectancy. If you don't want to eat meat, it's your choice. But don't say that only a vegan diet gives you a long life.

i never say only vegan gives you long life... i say the human race will eventually turn to a vegan diet.

It is ridiculous for humanoid to partake meat by sacrificing another living being for food. There is no wisdom in this at all.

Well, some people are just more advanced than others, it takes times to progress and it sure take longer for others, i guess.

 

[yellowarse]

It is ridiculous for humanoid to partake meat by sacrificing another living being for food. There is no wisdom in this at all.

If you're arguing from a philosophical or even spiritual angle that it's not right for a human to sacrifice another animal (plants, by the way, are living beings too) for food, you may have a point. Then again, it boils down to personal belief and ideology.

But don't bring health or life expectancy into the argument, because you can still lead a healthy life if you take meat sparingly.

 

[tonychat]

If you're arguing from a philosophical or even spiritual angle that it's not right for a human to sacrifice another animal (plants, by the way, are living beings too) for food, you may have a point. Then again, it boils down to personal belief and ideology.

But don't bring health or life expectancy into the argument, because you can still lead a healthy life if you take meat sparingly.

i am talking about the eventual realisation of the uselessness of having meat as food by the human race.. currently i see it as a stupidity.. It has nothing to do with being philosophical or spiritual.. It is science.

As i say, an advanced person is not always understood by primitive ones..

 

[takashi]

i am talking about the eventual realisation of the uselessness of having meat as food by the human race.

I'm also a vegetarian, and sometimes even a vegan (i.e. strict vegetarian, meaning no fish, eggs and dairy products as well); and I agree that a vegetarian, preferably vegan, diet is the HEALTHIEST possible diet for humans.

Unfortunately, I don't agree that meat-eaters eat meat primarily because of any "usefulness".
They eat meat because they LIKE to eat meat, which gives them PLEASURE.
So even if they eventually realize that eating meat is "useless", they would still CONTINUE eating meat SIMPLY because they like it.
To be more precise, they are ADDICTED to meat.

It's just like cigarette addicts, who are unlikely to quit smoking, even though it's possible for them to quit and even though they KNOW that it increases their risk of contracting lung cancer or other diseases... :(

 

[Patriot]

I'm also a vegetarian, and sometimes even a vegan (i.e. strict vegetarian, meaning no fish, eggs and dairy products as well); and I agree that a vegetarian, preferably vegan, diet is the HEALTHIEST possible diet for humans.

Unfortunately, I don't agree that meat-eaters eat meat primarily because of any "usefulness".
They eat meat because they LIKE to eat meat, which gives them PLEASURE.(

It's quite difficult to find vegetarian food in Singapore which are not bland.

I wonder if the mock meat vegetarian dishes and Indian bean & plant-based curry rice are healthy.

Should one stick to fresh vegetables, like salads for a really healthy meal?

 

[tonychat]

It's quite difficult to find vegetarian food in Singapore which are not bland.

I wonder if the mock meat vegetarian dishes and Indian bean & plant-based curry rice are healthy.

Should one stick to fresh vegetables, like salads for a really healthy meal?

If you wanna turn vegetarian, mock meat is not a good choice if you want to be healthy.. It is a processed food laden with colouring and possible additives.

If you are in the transition to be a vegetarian, mock meat can serve you well for the transition period.

Real health comes from whole food.

You need effort to find ways to create a healthy way to eat your fresh whole food. Many can be found online.

Another reason meat eating loser find the veggie taste blend is because meat is always soak in heavy flavoured sauce and your tongue are used to it. Once you released your tongue from such heavy flavour, you get the succulent taste of fruits and vegetables...i don't even add in any sugar if i buy any drink. I avoid sugar drink too.. My sugar sweetness comes from fruits and juices.