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Unemployed lazy Singaporean gives lame reason to continue receiving welfare$!

cheongsimon

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She turns down job offer with higher pay, doesn't want steady work. Her excuses:
TOO FAR
Transport costs will eat into pay
TOO PAINFUL
Can't work long hours due to old injury
By Genevieve Jiang

December 11, 2008




WHEN community workers recommended a higher-paying full-time job earlier this year, she wouldn't take it.


POVERTY TRAP: Madam Lim holding letters from HDB and Singapore Power saying she owed them money. Behind on the beds are her three teenage children. TNP PICTURES: GAVIN FOO
Her reason: The workplace was too far.

Prospects at the proposed job were better than at her last job, as a part-time general worker at a voluntary welfare organisation.

Yet Madam Lim Geok Tin, 48, chose to rely on charity, free food rations and temporary financial help.

She also called this reporter to tell her story with the aim of seeking donations from the public.

She claimed she had not been working for the past year. But our checks showed this was not true.

The Central Community Development Council (CDC) and a nearby family service centre (FSC) revealed that she had been working until October this year earning about $500 a month.


It was not known why she had to stop working.

Madam Lim, who is divorced, lives with her three teenage children in a rented one-room flat at Jalan Bukit Merah. She claims she does not get any maintenance from her ex-husband.

For the past few years, she has been supplementing her income with help from The Straits Times Pocket Money Fund. The CDC has also helped her with rental and service and conservancy vouchers.

Madam Lim claimed she cannot remember the number of times she has gone to her Member of Parliament for help to pay her rent and utilities.

She claimed her case worker from the FSC had told her there was little more that could be done to help her unless she found a proper job.

Said Madam Lim: 'I've been told many times by the social worker to get a stable job, but I cannot work long hours. I have an old injury in my back, left leg and right hand from years ago, which acts up now and then. I cannot stand or squat for long, and cannot carry heavy objects.'

The New Paper visited the family at home twice last week and noticed Madam Lim's right hand swathed in bandages. She appeared to have problems walking and standing, and frequently sought her children's help.

But she could not show us medical documents, claiming that she had not seen a doctor for her ailments.

Intellectually disabled

Her eldest daughter, now 17, is intellectually disabled. She also has a 15-year-old son and a second daughter aged 13.

Madam Lim claimed that she received $105 for only three months last year through the ST Pocket Money Fund. But her case worker, who declined to be named, said the amount was much more and help was extended over a much longer period.

She could not reveal the exact period and amount, citing client confidentiality.

Madam Lim also claimed that she was working as a contract worker at a factory last year, earning about $400 a month. Her contract ended in December last year and was not renewed. She has not found full-time work since, she claimed.

She said she works odd jobs a few days every month, earning only $5 an hour. But the CDC revealed that she had been earning $500 a month as a general worker until October.

She claimed that the CDC did not help her look for jobs. But a CDC spokesman said it had been 'advising her on getting long-term employment with better prospects, but she showed no interest'.

'The reason she gave was that her current employment could be reached by foot and that would save her money on transportation,' the spokesman said.

She had been switching jobs often, the FSC case worker said.

Madam Lim also claimed she had no money for food, but when asked about the bags of uncooked rice in her refrigerator, she admitted that she gets free monthly food rations, including canned food and biscuits, from the Salvation Army, and another nearby welfare organisation.

Her story was published in The New Paper two years ago when she received help from the Young Women's Christian Association's Meals-on-Wheels programme, under which free dinners are delivered to the family every weekday. She received several hundred dollars worth of donations after the article was published.

Madam Lim recently got in touch with this reporter again, asking for help to pay her rent and utility bills.

She received a letter from HDB dated 21Oct, a copy of which was shown to The New Paper, stating that she still owed $265, six months' rent. Another letter, from Singapore Power, dated 20Oct, stated that she still owed more than $500 in utility charges.

Madam Lim said her financial woes started in 2000, when her ex-husband's business ran into problems. She claimed that when the business failed, they were left with debts of thousands of dollars.

The family was then living in a three-room flat in Bukit Panjang. To help pay off the debts, they sold the flat and rented another three-room flat in the same area, she said.

But things didn't improve. Madam Lim's ex-husband could not get work.

In 2003, to avoid his creditors, they moved to another rented three-room flat, in Marsiling. Madam Lim found work as a dishwasher, earning about $200 a month. Her ex-husband was then still unemployed.

She claimed he was aggressive and often demanded money from her.

The couple separated in 2005 and are no longer in touch. As she did not want any contact with him, she quit her job as a dishwasher, she said.

Sell tissue packets

With no savings and no income, she resorted to selling packets of tissue on the streets with her children, she claimed.

In July 2005, Madam Lim took her children and moved to the one-room Jalan Bukit Merah flat where they live today.

Her elder daughter, who has an IQ of only 70 (normal is 90 to 110), has been attending a special school since 2006. Her school fees are subsidised.

The two younger children are in neighbourhood schools. Their school fees are waived, and the schools give them free books and vouchers for meals, she said.

During our visit, the son was fiddling with a hand-held electronic game. On his sister's bed was a Sesame Street soft toy, the size of a bolster.

Madam Lim claimed these were gifts.

She said: 'It's not that I don't want to work, but I cannot.'

So she continues to look for help from others. Old habits die hard.


TOMORROW: In the last of our four-part series, social workers speak of a problem they have grappled with for years - welfare shoppers and clients who refuse to help themselves.
 

Conan the Barbarian

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She turns down job offer with higher pay, doesn't want steady work. Her excuses:
TOO FAR
Transport costs will eat into pay
TOO PAINFUL
Can't work long hours due to old injury
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Well, her reasons sound valid. If she is going to spend money on transport,
then the extra pay should be more than the amount spent both in money
and time.

The injuries if real, would be a limiting factor on the type of work that she can do.

However, I have come across people who will not take a change in lifestyle.
Had an old ex-colleague whom I met and complained about getting too low a pay. I offered him a job that pays about $1500 more but he has to work night shift, doing the same thing. He told me he didn't want night shift. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Thereafter, I couldn't be bothered with his complaints.
 

PJ Boy

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Any asshole here have sympathy for her ?? or blame the taxpayer for giving her not enough welfare....:rolleyes:

Are these cases the majority of the welfare cases or just the extreme cases? Sinkees just can't think critically and start slamming people on welfare.
 

singveld

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why is 154 attacking this poor family

she got a kid with special need and very young children

if she leave for work, who is looking after the kid.

pap should help these people until the kids are adult at least

154 is enjoying holiday in usa and europe while writing crap about poor people
 

tiulehloumoh

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Are these cases the majority of the welfare cases or just the extreme cases? Sinkees just can't think critically and start slamming people on welfare.

see, there are asshole who have sympathy....for these lazy poor who refuse to work and claiming cannot work due to old injury...... without medically certified unfit to work......:rolleyes:

Mediacock should give her a chance to act as handicap in drama show.......
 
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PJ Boy

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see, there are asshole who have sympathy....for these lazy poor who refuse to work and claiming cannot work due to old injury...... without medically certified unfit to work......:rolleyes:

Mediacock should give her a chance to act as handicap in drama show.......

stupid sinkees juz cannot comprehend simple English.

Who sez these 3 cases featured deserve sympathy?

But the point is now stupid sinkees start slamming ALL poor people on welfare because they think ALL poor people are fussy, over re-produce, spend on unnecessities like cigs, too lazy to work & abuse the help from others.

So are ALL or MOST poor people poor because they are too lazy to work? Do these 3 cases represent most of the welfare cases? Know one knows for sure, at least not by reading these 3 cases.
 

tiulehloumoh

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Poor peoples will not be poor for whole life unless they are born lazy. The three case show that they are plain lazy and depending on welfare........... again, any asshole have sympathy for these 3 cases ?......:rolleyes:
 

tiulehloumoh

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stupid sinkees juz cannot comprehend simple English.

Who sez these 3 cases featured deserve sympathy?

But the point is now stupid sinkees start slamming ALL poor people on welfare because they think ALL poor people are fussy, over re-produce, spend on unnecessities like cigs, too lazy to work & abuse the help from others.

So are ALL or MOST poor people poor because they are too lazy to work? Do these 3 cases represent most of the welfare cases? Know one knows for sure, at least not by reading these 3 cases.

Stupid asshole who cannot read simple English...... "Any asshole here have sympathy for her ?? " Not all poor on welfare......undertstand !
 

The_Latest_H

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You know, this isn't so much about laziness. This isn't so much about unemployment. This isn't so much about lame reasons. This isn't so much about welfare being making people rot at home.

The fact is that unlike in the US, our welfare isn't even welfare compared to them! The fact is that every case is different, and as much as we would like to make them look like standardised cases, they are not. The fact is that even if we sweep these cases under the carpet, and deny some of them welfare, you would be crazy to think these won't haunt us ten, twenty years from now.

As much as the government wants us to believe that denying poorer people welfare means having a clutch mentality, I believe that welfare by itself is not as harmful as they want us to believe. Its not about welfare; in fact some welfare is needed to help certain sections of society who have been left out in this economical progress over the last 20 years. They simply cannot catch up, and that's why they need us to fish for them initially.

But what makes welfare harmful is not welfare by itself: its by people. People who abuse the system. That's why welfare systems have been reformed and are being reformed by more countries because of systematic abuse. That's why welfare reform is so popular and even centre-left governments like Kevin Rudd, and in the past, Tony Blair have been introducing leaner versions of a welfare system suited for the 21st century.

And as such, by introducing legislation to make sure that is less abused by people, welfare would instead now help people who are left out temporarily while they are out of a job, and completely out of luck. And once they have found a job, and stability, the government would slowly teach them how to fish on their own, make them learn how to store the fish for future use and to give some to their kids and other family members.

That's the goal of limited welfare- in exchange for effort on the other side to learn what's required of them.

The end result is this: stronger social fabric among all citizens. Citizens who are far away and separate because of the vast gap between the haves and have not will slowly but surely turn against each other, and will even do more so as the situation gets worse. That's how China got into so many revolutions since time immortal. That's why in some areas of the US, it remains a racial and social polarisation. That's why African migrants to France rioted against the Chirac regime in 2005 in Paris.

And that's why we have to reduce chances of that happening in Singapore. If you keep these cases under the carpet because of the misguiding of views that welfare itself is abusive, then you forget that first, it makes it worse, and second, you forget that its us who abuse it selfishly, and not because of welfare by itself.
 
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