Two Views of The PAP

[TracyTan866]

Looking from the opposite angle, the wife cooks every meal for the household, prepares his bed and cleans the house which become so much a part of him, that he takes it for granted as given. The mistress, with no chance to prepare the meals, focuses on boiling soup for her lover. That's why Ah Yee's soup is the best. In this same analogy, how do you put people like Sam, who emigrated years ago - divorced wife or run road lover?

hahahaha...another good analogy

 

[Asian]

true. But that's not the accurate picture

It doesn't have to be the accurate picture.
Most FT here in SG don't intend to stay long term.
They can mess with SG all they want, and when shit happen, they are gone.
But can Singaporeans afford that to happen?

 

[TracyTan866]

It doesn't have to be the accurate picture.
Most FT here in SG don't intend to stay long term.
They can mess with SG all they want, and when shit happen, they are gone.
But can Singaporeans afford that to happen?

Yes, as long as foreigners and visitors keep their wrong picture of SG to themselves, that's ok.

But we, Singaporeans, cant let them try to impose their wrong picture of SG onto Singaporeans.

 

[TracyTan866]

It doesn't have to be the accurate picture.
Most FT here in SG don't intend to stay long term.
They can mess with SG all they want, and when shit happen, they are gone.
But can Singaporeans afford that to happen?

We have to let Singaporeans know the true picture of SG and the dangers ahead

 

[Asian]

We have to let Singaporeans know the true picture of SG and the dangers ahead

Sad to say, on this part, I can agree with Tonychat.
Singaporeans are ball less.
They do know the danger, but choose to ignore it and leave it to PAP as long as they have a place to stay, can get by day by day.

 

[TracyTan866]

Sad to say, on this part, I can agree with Tonychat.
Singaporeans are ball less.
They do know the danger, but choose to ignore it and leave it to PAP as long as they have a place to stay, can get by day by day.

We can only highlight the dangers ..the other Singaporeans will have to decide what's good for Singapore.

But I see that more Singaporeans are aware of PAP's misdeeds. That's good news

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

I'm a Singaporean and I know Singapore very well but I still have an extremely favourable view of the PAP. I think they do a wonderful job.

60.1% of Singaporeans agree with me.

I'm sure people vote PAP for many reasons, from being uncomfortable with change, to being unsure if the opposition can do a good job. Just because a person voted PAP does not mean he loves them.

In fact i know of many who voted opposition even though they disliked the candidates.

 

[Leongsam]

In fact i know of many who voted opposition even though they disliked the candidates.

The candidates may not be likable but that doesn't alter the fact that as a party, the PAP has delivered. Just look at the amount of wealth generated in Singapore every year and you can't help but acknowledge that when it comes to the things that matter, no party can match the PAP.

 

[Debonerman]

The candidates may not be likable but that doesn't alter the fact that as a party, the PAP has delivered. Just look at the amount of wealth generated in Singapore every year and you can't help but acknowledge that when it comes to the things that matter, no party can match the PAP.

Then drag your sorry ass back from down under to enjoy the fruits of Lee Kuan Yew's labour.

 

[Leongsam]

Then drag your sorry ass back from down under to enjoy the fruits of Lee Kuan Yew's labour.

I have already reaped the rewards of LKY's hard work and dedication.

 

[TracyTan866]

I'm sure people vote PAP for many reasons, from being uncomfortable with change, to being unsure if the opposition can do a good job. Just because a person voted PAP does not mean he loves them.

In fact i know of many who voted opposition even though they disliked the candidates.

A voter cast his vote for one or some of the of following reasons:

1. He supports the politicial party
2. He supports the candidate
3. He is ignorant
4. He has been lied to
5. He is fearful of the consequences
6. He is seduced by the promise of HDB upgrading
7. He is grateful for the growth dividend
8. He supports the party's manifesto

So to say that all 60% support the pap because the pap gets 60% vote during GE 2011 is too simplistic. From PE 2011, we can clearly see that pap doesnt get 60% support.

The Opposition must strategise well for the next GE and fight the right battle. If they fight well, the pap may get less than 50% of the votes

 

[po2wq]

... In this same analogy, how do you put people like Sam, who emigrated years ago - divorced wife or run road lover?

dat burger took half of his assets n now njoying ze fruits of his labor ...

 

[TracyTan866]

Then drag your sorry ass back from down under to enjoy the fruits of Lee Kuan Yew's labour.

good suggestion

 

[kingrant]

A sad case of unrequited love...

In this same analogy, how do you put people like Sam, who emigrated years ago - divorced wife or run road lover?

 

[TracyTan866]

A sad case of unrequited love...

hahahaha..true

 

[Fook Seng]

dat burger took half of his assets n now njoying ze fruits of his labor ...

I guess your answer is he is a divorcee. He took his alimony and is now enjoying the fruits of his previous marriage.

 

[cass888]

Then drag your sorry ass back from down under to enjoy the fruits of Lee Kuan Yew's labour.

Why don't you just go drag your own sorry ass back to work instead of whining about the result of how useless you are.

 

[freedalas]

The candidates may not be likable but that doesn't alter the fact that as a party, the PAP has delivered. Just look at the amount of wealth generated in Singapore every year and you can't help but acknowledge that when it comes to the things that matter, no party can match the PAP.

Yes, great wealth is indeed generated in S'pore every year. But who gets to enjoy these wealth? Only a handful. The rest are slotting it out every day just to make ends meet and many are living hand to mouth. And these are the things that matter in governing a country. Not creating wealth for the sake of creating wealth just to look good as a KPI to justify their out-of-the-world salaries.

What the PAP had achieved is only making the rich gets richer and the poor poorer. Actually the same result would have occurred even in a society without any government, because when things are left on their own, the natural outcome is the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. But a friend told me that what the PAP had done is in fact worse, because they have not only made the rich richer but made them filthy rich and at same time not only made the poor poorer but made them less than a human being. So from this perspective, u are right, Leongsam, when it comes to things that matters, there is no match for the PAP because no other govt can be worse than what the PAP had done.

 

[freedalas]

I have already reaped the rewards of LKY's hard work and dedication.

Actually u are what Goh Chok Tong called a quitter. When the going got tough, u just migrate. And not only that, when those stayed behind to continue contributing to S'pore made certain observations about the failings of the PAP, u sit there comfortably away from it all to mock at them even though they are the ones to experience first-hand the ill effects of PAP's failed policies. Just how much credibility u have in making those remarks about S'poreans? Go figure

 

[Leongsam]

Actually u are what Goh Chok Tong called a quitter. When the going got tough, u just migrate.

I actually lived through the toughest periods... the Indo confrontation and the threat of being blown up, merger with Malaysia and subsequent expulsion, the race riots, the British withdrawal of bases, the lack of a proper roof over my head, no running water and no electricity, having to walk 1km for a bath and 100m to shit into a bucket..... and not forgetting floods... REAL FLOODS...not the "ponding" you see today.

I haven't "quit" either. I still spend a considerable amount of time in Singapore overseeing my interests. It's true I've cashed out my major assets but that wasn't because the PAP was crap. It was because they have done such a fantastic job of ensuring a strong currency and high asset values. It was a choice I made based on my personal goals. We all have our own lives to lead no matter what any govt does or does not do. I left when the going was good and not when it was tough.

Because I'm based in NZ and spend a lot of time in OZ too, it gives me the opportunity to see the woods from the trees and realise what a good job the PAP is doing for Singapore. While I agree that some of the ministers aren't very likable, that should not be a yardstick by which the govt is measured. You have to look at the bottom line and you'll see that Singapore is in very good shape.

You guys and girls don't realise how lucky you all are. You inherited a country that has everything. Perhaps that's the problem. You end up taking it all for granted. You don't know the meaning of "tough". You've had it far too easy.