Trump where got win the war???

[tobelightlight]

 

[tobelightlight]

Pls tell me logically how this is considered winning.

I still remember the 185 children in school were killed in Iran when missile striked the school.

The children are dead and this bunch of losers still trying to look cool from their barbaric actions.

 

[syed putra]

You just not forget, US used proxy Iraq to attack Iran way back in the 1980's. US provided Iraq with chemical weapons and it was said a million Iranian Perished defending their nation.
So USD300 billion goes a way back for the massive damaged caused.

 

[syed putra]

Pls tell me logically how this is considered winning.

I still remember the 185 children in school were killed in Iran when missile striked the school.

The children are dead and this bunch of losers still trying to look cool from their barbaric actions.

To these elites, the wars, creating insurgencies, instability are just a game. Nobody in US ever indicted for war crimes.

 

[tobelightlight]

After months of sustained bombardment, the assassination of Supreme Leader Khamenei, and a naval blockade that choked off Iranian ports, the United States has signed a ceasefire that leaves the Islamic Republic standing and its regime in place. Washington did not secure regime change or the unconditional surrender Trump had still been demanding as recently as March. The two parties have agreed to a memorandum of understanding, a 60-day window for nuclear negotiations, and a formal signing ceremony in Switzerland on June 19.

Iran has agreed to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, clear the mines it laid there, commit to never pursuing nuclear weapons, and enter talks over handing over its stockpile of nearly 441 kilograms of uranium enriched to 60% purity. Without that transfer, there will be no sanctions relief.
In return, a reconstruction fund of at least $300 billion, financed by the United States and Gulf states, will rebuild infrastructure devastated by the strikes. The Trump administration has avoided the word reparations, instead calling it an "international investment fund." Around $24 billion in frozen assets will be released in stages, the blockade will be lifted immediately, and Tehran will regain the right to sell oil internationally.

Israel, which co-launched the February 28 strikes, has not hidden its displeasure. Netanyahu's government has privately called the deal a deep disappointment. Israeli troops will remain in southern Lebanon indefinitely, and Netanyahu is seeking an urgent meeting with Trump. For Israel, the concern is clear: Iran has emerged battered but intact.


Read the above carefully if you know how to read English and have an acceptable English comprehension level.

How is this a win for Trump? His fucking missile killed 185 children.

 

[syed putra]

You have to ask, why did US stopped the war.
They can continue if they had wanted. Unfortunately, they have ran out of missiles. And China has stopped supplying rare earth to defence industries. So it's checkmate.
Using b-52 to drop bombs is not a option as Iran air defence is capable. So Guide Bombs, US has plentiful. But cannot be used.

 

[laksaboy]

Get your news from the source, not clickbait content produced by those with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

 

[laksaboy]

You have to ask, why did US stopped the war.
They can continue if they had wanted. Unfortunately, they have ran out of missiles. And China has stopped supplying rare earth to defence industries. So it's checkmate.
Using b-52 to drop bombs is not a option as Iran air defence is capable. So Guide Bombs, US has plentiful. But cannot be used.

Skirmish with Iran stopped to pivot to China next.

 

[404]

Skirmish with Iran stopped to pivot to China next.

The US has effectively surrounded China with its allies, with the notable exceptions of its northern borders shared with the five Central Asian nations and northeastern border with Russia.

 

[404]

The Idiot Diaper Faeces all the places illiterates wanting to read the MoU which was prevent from accessing, possible to understand after seeing the content

 

[tobelightlight]

AMERICAN TOTAL SURRENDER CONFIRMED: Trump Went To War And Got A Deal Far Worse Than Obama’s JCPOA

Two days ago, I wrote an article and posted on FaceBook describing the US-Iran ceasefire as a surrender document. That article has since been viewed over 4.5 million times, liked 56,000 times, and shared more than 11,000 times. The response confirmed what many already sensed but could not yet prove: that something was deeply wrong with the terms America had accepted. Now, with the full text of the 14-point Memorandum of Understanding obtained by Al Arabiya English, we no longer have to speculate. The document speaks for itself — and it confirms everything I said.

As a lawyer, I have spent a 35 year career parsing legal language with precision. Reading this MOU, my conclusion is unequivocal: this is not a peace agreement between equals. This is a surrender document. The Americans did not want the world to see this text, and reading it, it is not difficult to understand why. I will now explain in detail why that is so.

Let me set out all 14 clauses in full, and then explain what they mean.

THE 14 CLAUSES OF THE MOU

1. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States, together with their allies in the current war, declare upon the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding an immediate and permanent end to the war on all fronts, including Lebanon, and undertake that from now on they will not launch any hostile action against each other, and will refrain from the threat or use of force against each other. The final agreement will confirm the provisions of this Article and the remaining Articles.

2. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States undertake to respect each other’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, and to refrain from interfering in each other’s internal affairs.

3. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States undertake to negotiate and reach a final agreement within a maximum period of 60 days, extendable by mutual h a final agreement within a maximum period of 60 days, extendable by mutual consent.

4. Immediately upon the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, the United States will lift the naval blockade and prevent any interference or obstruction against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and restore traffic within a maximum of 30 days to its full capacity; the traffic of ships shall be proportional to the pre-war volume of traffic on the part of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States also undertakes to withdraw its forces from the surrounding areas within 30 days after the final agreement.

5. Upon signing this Memorandum of Understanding, the Islamic Republic of Iran will immediately take steps to ensure that the movement of merchant ships from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa is resumed within 30 days to the pre-war volume, taking into account the need for the removal of technical obstacles and the neutralization of mines by Iran.

6. The United States undertakes, together with its regional partners, to create a comprehensive plan agreed upon by both parties for the rehabilitation and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran, while ensuring financing of at least $300 billion. The implementation mechanism of this plan, as part of the final agreement, will be formulated within 60 days.

7. The United States commits to ending, on a schedule to be agreed upon as part of the final agreement, all types of sanctions currently facing the Islamic Republic of Iran, including resolutions of the United Nations Security Council and the Board of Governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, both primary and secondary.

8. The Islamic Republic of Iran reiterates that it will never produce nuclear weapons. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States have agreed that the fate of enriched material and the fate of all other mutually agreed nuclear-related issues, including Iran’s nuclear needs, will be adequately addressed in a final agreement; the final agreement will confirm the provisions of this Article.

9. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States agree that, pending a final agreement, they will maintain the status quo: Iran will maintain the status quo on its nuclear program, and the United States will not impose new sanctions on Iran or strengthen its forces in the region.

10. The United States undertakes that immediately after the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, and until the date of the lifting of sanctions, the United States Treasury Department will issue waivers for exports of Iranian crude oil, petrochemical products and their derivatives, and all related services, including banking, insurance, transportation, and the like.

11. The United States undertakes that, in light of the progress of negotiations towards a final agreement, frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran will be released and made fully available. These funds, whether held in the master account or transferred, will be used for any final beneficiary payment determined by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran and will be fully available for use. The United States undertakes to issue all necessary permits and licenses on this basis.

12. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States agree that an implementation mechanism will be established to oversee the successful implementation of and future commitment to the Final Agreement.

13. Following the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, and upon receipt of assurances regarding the commencement of implementation of Articles 4, 5, 10, and 11 of this Memorandum of Understanding, and the continued implementation of these steps, the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States will enter into negotiations for a Final Agreement solely with respect to the remaining Articles.

14. The final agreement will be approved through a binding resolution of the UN Security Council.

WHY THIS IS A SURRENDER DOCUMENT — AND WORSE THAN THE JCPOA

Reading this MOU as a lawyer, the conclusion is clear beyond peradventure. Let me explain why, point by devastating point.

First: The $300 Billion.

Clause 6 commits the United States and its regional partners to finance Iran’s rehabilitation and economic development to the tune of at least $300 billion. Let us call this what it is — reparations. The victor does not pay the defeated party $300 billion. The party that initiated a war, prosecuted it, and lost pays the winner. The Obama JCPOA involved releasing approximately $100–150 billion in frozen Iranian assets — money that was already Iran’s. This MOU commits the United States to generating $300 billion in fresh financing for Iranian development. Trump went to war and came back owing Iran more than twice what Obama ever conceded.

Second: The Strait of Hormuz Remains in Iranian Hands.

Clause 5 requires Iran to clear its own mines and restore shipping — a technical concession that actually confirms something extraordinary: Iran controls the waterway. The MOU contains not a single provision preventing Iran from later imposing transit fees, “environmental levies,” or “navigational service charges” on vessels passing through. It is tolls under a different name. The Strait of Hormuz, the jugular vein of global energy supply, remains firmly within Iran’s sovereign grip. The United States went to war and lost the Strait, which had been open to the world before then.

Third: The Nuclear Question Is Left Wide Open — And Trump’s Bombast About Iran’s Enriched Uranium Is Flatly Contradicted By The Text.

This is perhaps the most legally significant point of all. Clause 8 states that Iran “reiterates” it will never produce nuclear weapons. The word “reiterates” is not accidental — it is a diplomatic term of art meaning Iran is simply repeating a prior position, not making a fresh, legally binding, verifiable commitment. There is no dismantlement of centrifuges. No reduction in enrichment levels. No breakout timeline. No snap inspections. The fate of enriched material is merely deferred to the final agreement. Compare this to the JCPOA, which at least imposed specific caps on enrichment, reduced Iran’s stockpile by 98%, limited centrifuges, and established a 15-year timeline with IAEA verification. This MOU gives America nothing comparable.

Trump has boasted publicly that under this deal, America will be able to seize and destroy Iran’s stockpile of enriched uranium. This is pure fantasy. Read Clause 8 again: the fate of enriched material is to be “adequately addressed in a final agreement.” That is all. There is no mechanism for seizure, no timeline for removal, no verification procedure, and no enforcement clause. The enriched uranium remains in Iran’s possession, on Iranian soil, under Iranian control — today, tomorrow, and until such time as a final agreement is reached, if one ever is. Indeed, Clause 8 explicitly acknowledges “Iran’s nuclear needs,” a formulation that implicitly recognises Iran’s right to continue developing its nuclear programme as it sees fit. Far from constraining Iran’s nuclear ambitions, this MOU hands Iran enormous residual power over the direction and pace of its own nuclear development. The deal does not strip Iran of its nuclear leverage — it leaves that leverage entirely intact while America pays the bills.

I make no judgment on whether Iran should or should not possess nuclear weapons — my longstanding view has always been that if Iran is not to have them, Israel, which possesses an undeclared arsenal, should not have them either. But the point is this: it is pure hyperbole for Trump to claim that under this deal Iran cannot acquire nuclear weapons. The MOU does not prevent it. And given that the Iranian President Pezeskian, in a recent call with the Pakistani Prime Minister, reportedly threatened to detonate a nuclear device if America remained intransigent — and given that Pakistan has given assurances to Turkey of nuclear cover in the event of an Israeli threat — who is to say a similar assurance will not be extended to Iran by Pakistan, China, Russia, or North Korea? The MOU provides no answer.

Fourth: The Sequencing Reveals Everything.

Clause 13 is perhaps the most telling of all. It provides that Iran and the United States will enter final agreement negotiations only after America has commenced implementation of Articles 4, 5, 10, and 11 — meaning the naval blockade is lifted, frozen assets are released, oil export waivers are issued, and shipping is restored — all before a final deal is concluded. America gives first. Iran negotiates later. This is the logic not of a victor extracting concessions, but of a supplicant purchasing the right to sit at the table.

The Bottom Line

Donald Trump launched military strikes on Iran, deployed carrier battle groups, imposed a naval blockade, and subjected Iranian infrastructure to sustained bombardment. He did so with maximalist rhetoric about preventing Iran from ever obtaining nuclear weapons and forcing Iran’s unconditional surrender. The MOU he has now signed delivers: a $300 billion development commitment, no structural nuclear dismantlement, Iranian retention of effective control over the Strait of Hormuz, immediate American concessions before final negotiations even begin, and a nuclear clause so weak that the word “reiterates” does all the work of what should have been a cast-iron prohibition.

Obama’s JCPOA, whatever its imperfections, at least contained specific, measurable nuclear rollbacks, independent verification mechanisms, and phased sanction relief tied to verified Iranian compliance. This MOU contains none of that structural architecture.

Trump tore up the JCPOA calling it the worst deal in history. He then went to war. And he came home with something worse.

And here is a modest suggestion for the occasion. In 1919, the Treaty of Versailles was signed in the Hall of Mirrors at the Palace of Versailles — a document that imposed such punishing reparations and national humiliation on Germany that it gave rise to Adolf Hitler and delivered the world into the catastrophe of the Second World War. President Macron is now set to dine President Trump in that same Hall of Mirrors during the G7 summit. How fitting it would be — how perfectly, poetically fitting — if Trump were to stay on and sign the final MOU with Iran on 19 June in that very same Hall. After all, a room that once witnessed one great power reduce another to humiliating reparations is precisely the right setting for a document in which the self-proclaimed world’s greatest dealmaker has somehow managed to be the one paying them. The mirrors - 357 in total, at least, would reflect the moment with perfect clarity.

 

[tobelightlight]

Trump is a loser and kill 185 children.

 

[A Singaporean]

From the very beginning coolie gene Sinkies in hdb believed Angmorika could bomb Iran back to the stone age. They do not understand the brave people of Iran. Iranians are totally different from Sinkies.

 

[404]

The Iranian people should thank Ali Larijani for his refusal to back down and for fiercely retaliating with concentrated strikes against US bases across the GCC nations. Following his departure, the IRGC has continued his strategy of attacking US military installations.

 

[superpower]

When the leader of a 250-year-old nation thinks he can obliterate a 5,000 year-old civilization, he ought to have his brain examined. And American cock-sucking clowns like @laksaboy think he can take down China. LOL.

 

[404]

Trump has championed his own specific framework for the preliminary Memorandum of Understanding (mou) to end the war, and it differs sharply from alternative drafts and interpretations pushed by Iran, as well as the initial messaging from the Pakistani mediators.
There are two versions of the Preliminary MoU; each party will sign their respective version and expects the other to sign theirs.

 

[A Singaporean]

Now all the ACSs so quiet ?

 

[nabeifuckpap]

Trump either fucked up big time or the deal either works or doesn't work, time will tell good luck to everyone if it fails, AMDK all pissed off with Trump already