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Chitchat Trump Likely To Be Arrested On Monday As Russian Agent or Spy!

JohnTan

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Washington (CNN)A federal grand jury in Washington on Friday approved the first charges in the investigation led by special counsel Robert Mueller, according to sources briefed on the matter.

The charges are still sealed under orders from a federal judge. Plans were prepared Friday for anyone charged to be taken into custody as soon as Monday, the sources said. It is unclear what the charges are.

A spokesman for the special counsel's office declined to comment.

Mueller was appointed in May to lead the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
Under the regulations governing special counsel investigations, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who has oversight over the Russia investigation, would have been made aware of any charges before they were taken before the grand jury for approval, according to people familiar with the matter.


Little chance Congress can kill Mueller's funding

On Friday, top lawyers who are helping to lead the Mueller probe, including veteran prosecutor Andrew Weissmann, were seen entering the court room at the DC federal court where the grand jury meets to hear testimony in the Russia investigation.

Reporters present saw a flurry of activity at the grand jury room, but officials made no announcements.

Shortly after President Donald Trump abruptly fired then-FBI Director James Comey, Rosenstein appointed Mueller as special counsel. Mueller took the reins of a federal investigation that Comey first opened in July 2016 in the middle of the presidential campaign.

Mueller is authorized to investigate "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation," according to Rosenstein's order.

The special counsel's investigation has focused on potential collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, as well as obstruction of justice by the President, who might have tried to impede the investigation. CNN reported that investigators are scrutinizing Trump and his associates' financial ties to Russia.


This has been an incredibly confusing week in politics. That's good for Trump.


Mueller's team has also examined foreign lobbying conducted by former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, former national security adviser Michael Flynn and others. His team has issued subpoenas for documents and testimony to a handful of figures, including some people close to Manafort, and others involved in the Trump Tower meeting between Russians and campaign officials.

Last year, the Comey-led investigation secured approval from the secret court that oversees the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to monitor the communications of Manafort, as well as former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, as part of the investigation into Russian meddling.
In addition to Mueller's probe, three committees on Capitol Hill are conducting their own investigations.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/27/politics/first-charges-mueller-investigation/index.html
 

kryonlight

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That's the nice thing about USA. No one is above all, including the President. Unlike communist China and PAP-junta Singapore.
 

eatshitndie

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the worst the potus gets is impeachment. but as time tells potus is unscathed. minions on the anti-trump side are given time to run road during the weekend before charges are announced on monday. potus and i will begin asia tour next week.
 

Leckmichamarsch

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He's the only Politician I know who does not spew nonsense. The worst nonsense spewing shit came from Obama.
Yingluck oso politician but got charged for implementing her govt policy....... albeit she din make a single baht whereas the crooked army made tonnes of US$ these yrs with more good yrs to come
 

JohnTan

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9:10 a.m.

Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his business associate, Rick Gates, have been indicted by a federal grand jury on charges of conspiracy against the United States and other felony charges.

The indictments unsealed Monday in Washington contain 12 counts, including conspiracy to launder money, failing to register as a foreign agent, false statements, and multiple counts of failing to file reports for foreign bank accounts.

Manafort, of Alexandria, Virginia, and Gates, of Richmond, Virginia, both turned themselves in to the FBI on Monday


https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-white-house-no-report-123515613--politics.html
 

Leongsam

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Gregg Jarrett: Still no evidence of Trump-Russia 'collusion' - but Hillary is a different matter

By Gregg Jarrett

Congressman: Hearing on Clintons-Russia long overdue

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher tells Tucker he has been trying to get a hearing on the Clintons-Russia connection for months. #Tucker

Over the weekend, the mainstream media was absolutely giddy with delight upon learning there would be an indictment by special counsel, Robert Mueller.

This was proof positive, they insisted, that Trump “colluded” with Russia to influence the 2016 presidential election. Their exuberance was the equivalent of a two day-long tailgate party. Too bad it was premature.

Manafort & Gates

The celebration came to a crashing end when the indictments of Paul Manafort and his business associate, Rick Gates, were unsealed Monday morning. It turns out the charges are, basically, a tax fraud case. The two men stand accused of hiding their income from their lobbying work for Ukraine in order to avoid paying taxes, then lying about it. That’s it.

The 31-page indictment makes no mention of Trump or Russia or “collusion.” The media seemed as dejected as a kid who wakes up on Christmas morning, only to find there are no presents under the tree. Gee whiz.

The truth is, it should have come as no surprise to anyone, much less the media, that Manafort was in legal jeopardy for his business dealings. The FBI raided his home over the summer. It was later learned that the FBI wiretapped his conversations as far back as 2014. And it was widely reported that Manafort had been told by Mueller’s team that he would be criminally charged.

It could be said that Hillary Clinton is the one who was conspiring with the Russians by breaking campaign finance laws with impunity.

The media became even more dispirited when they read through the indictment, discovering that nearly all of Manafort’s alleged wrongdoing substantially pre-dates his brief stint as chairman of the Trump campaign. In other words, there is no connection to either Trump or his campaign.

Somewhere, I’m sure, ABC’s Martha Raddatz and CNN’s Van Jones were crying. Again. Just like the tears they shed on camera election night when Hillary lost.

Papadopoulos

But wait. Shortly after the indictments were unsealed, the media’s spirits were suddenly boosted when the special counsel revealed that a former adviser to Trump pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with a Russian national during his time on the Trump campaign. Surely this was evidence of illegal “collusion,” right?

Wrong. George Papadopoulos pled guilty to a single charge of making a false statement to the FBI. He was not charged with so-called “collusion” because no such crime exists in American statutory law, except in anti-trust matters. It has no application to elections and political campaigns.

It is not a crime to talk to a Russian. Not that the media would ever understand that. They have never managed to point to a single statute that makes “colluding” with a foreign government in a political campaign a crime, likely because it does not exist in the criminal codes.

To put it plainly, Mueller is tasked with finding a crime that does not exist in the law. It is a legal impossibility. He is being asked to do something that is manifestly unattainable.

But that did not stop them from accusing Donald Trump, Jr., of illegally conspiring with the Russians when he met with a Russian lawyer to obtain information on Hillary Clinton. What law did he break? None. The Federal Election Commission has made it clear that it is perfectly lawful for foreign nationals to be involved in campaigns, as long as they are not paid and do not donate money. Which brings us to Hillary Clinton.

Hillary Clinton

It is against the law for the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee to funnel millions of dollars to a British spy and to Russian sources in order to obtain the infamous and discredited Trump “dossier.” The Federal Election Campaign Act (52 USC 30101) prohibits foreign nationals and governments from giving or receiving money in U.S. campaigns. It also prohibits the filing of false or misleading campaign reports to hide the true purpose of the money (52 USC 30121). This is what Clinton and the DNC appear to have done.

Most often the penalty for violating this law is a fine, but in egregious cases, like this one, criminal prosecutions have been sought and convictions obtained. In this sense, it could be said that Hillary Clinton is the one who was conspiring with the Russians by breaking campaign finance laws with impunity.

But that’s not all. Damning new evidence appears to show that Clinton used her office as Secretary of State to confer benefits to Russia in exchange for millions of dollars in donations to her foundation and cash to her husband. Secret recordings, intercepted emails, financial records, and eyewitness accounts allegedly show that Russian nuclear officials enriched the Clintons at the very time Hillary presided over a governing body which unanimously approved the sale of one-fifth of America’s uranium supply to Russia.

If this proves to be a corrupt “pay-to-play” scheme, it would constitute a myriad of crimes, including bribery (18 USC 201-b), mail fraud (18 USC 1341), and wire fraud (18 USC 1343). It might also qualify for racketeering charges (18 USC 1961-1968), if her foundation is determined to have been used as a criminal enterprise.

Despite all the incriminating evidence, Clinton has managed to avoid being pursued by a special counsel. Trump, on the other hand, is being chased by Robert Mueller and his team, notwithstanding a dearth of evidence.

Robert Mueller

The indictments of Manafort and Gates now present a unique opportunity to challenge the authority of the special counsel.

Until now, no one had legal “standing” to argue in court that the appointment of Mueller was illegal. The criminal charges change all that. The two defendants will be able to argue before a judge that Mueller’s appointment by Acting Attorney General Rod Rosenstein violated the special counsel law.

As I pointed out in a column last May, the law (28 CFR 600) grants legal authority to appoint a special counsel to investigate crimes. Only crimes. He has limited jurisdiction. Yet, in his order appointing Mueller as special counsel (Order No. 3915-2017), Rosenstein directed him to investigate “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump.” It fails to identify any specific crimes, likely because none are applicable.

To put it plainly, Mueller is tasked with finding a crime that does not exist in the law. It is a legal impossibility. He is being asked to do something that is manifestly unattainable.

If the federal judge agrees, Mueller and his team would be disbanded by judicial order. The Department of Justice would have to seek a new indictment of Manafort and Gates without the special counsel or drop the case entirely.

The naming of Robert Mueller was tainted with disqualifying conflicts of interest from the beginning. Fired FBI Director James Comey admitted he leaked presidential memos to the media for the sole purpose of triggering the appointment of a special counsel who just happens to be Comey’s longtime friend, ally and partner.

It is no coincidence that Rosenstein appointed Mueller. We now know both men were overseeing the corrupt Uranium One sale which involved Russian bribes, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering. They appear to have kept it secret, even hiding it from Congress which would surely have cancelled the transaction involving a vital national security asset. A cover-up? It has the stench of one.

How can Americans have confidence in the outcome of the Trump-Russia matter if the integrity and impartiality of Mueller and Rosenstein has been compromised by their suspected cover-up of the Clinton-Russia case? Both men should resign.

And a new special counsel should be appointed – this time to investigate Hillary Clinton, not Donald Trump.
 

scroobal

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It looks like Mueller is a smart cookie and going for the long game. He is working from the edges and moving in from all sides.

None of the charges preferred has anything to do with Trump but the 3 clowns are from Trump’s campaign team. Looks they are sweating the associates by putting them thru the prosecutorial wringer to force info and even implicate others in a plea bargain exchange.

Looks like a well organised and planned strategy.

I am sure the simple minded will actually think this absolves Trump.

I hope Mueller also goes for Clinton and show her for what she is.
 

Leongsam

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It looks like Mueller is a smart cookie and going for the long game. He is working from the edges and moving in from all sides.

None of the charges preferred has anything to do with Trump but the 3 clowns are from Trump’s campaign team. Looks they are sweating the associates by putting them thru the prosecutorial wringer to force info and even implicate others in a plea bargain exchange.

Looks like a well organised and planned strategy.

I am sure the simple minded will actually think this absolves Trump.

I hope Mueller also goes for Clinton and show her for what she is.
At the end of the day it still boils down to the fact that "collusion" is not a crime in any US statute.While it may be considered to be undiplomatic or cause loss of political capital it is not something that can derail a presidency mid term.

Let's not forget that Obama himself interfered with the Brexit process by actively campaigning against it and threatening Britain with repercussions should it happen. Trump in turn actually did collude with Nigel Farage by inviting him to speak at rallies on more than one occasion.

Impeachment is a process not a verdict. In order to the impeached president to be removed from office the senate has to convict with a two-thirds majority.... something that is hardly likely to happen.
 

Merl Haggard

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At the end of the day it still boils down to the fact that "collusion" is not a crime in any US statute.While it may be considered to be undiplomatic or cause loss of political capital it is not something that can derail a presidency mid term.

Let's not forget that Obama himself interfered with the Brexit process by actively campaigning against it and threatening Britain with repercussions should it happen. Trump in turn actually did collude with Nigel Farage by inviting him to speak at rallies on more than one occasion.

Impeachment is a process not a verdict. In order to the impeached president to be removed from office the senate has to convict with a two-thirds majority.... something that is hardly likely to happen.

Indicting Paul Manafort will give special counsel Mueller leverage in his Russia probe.

The charges filed against Manafort, Trump's former campaign chairman and his former business partner have got nothing to do with his campaign collusion with the Russians.

But instead Mueller will use Manafort's shady past to force him to spill on any wrongdoings he witnessed during the 2016 Presidential campaign.

Mueller's eventual target is none other than Dotard Donald Trump.
 
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