Trump: Any sane government would have surrended when confronted by the might of the US Military, so is Iran stupid or crazy? I can't understand it!

[UltimaOnline]

Trump confessed to Vance, Rubio and Hegseth that he is genuinely flabbergasted that Iran hasn't surrended to him yet, he was 100% sure Iran would surrender as soon as he ammassed the might of the US military to the middle east, after all, USA is the world's strongest military, so any sane and rational governemt would immediately surrender, like he himself would in that situation.

Trump believes everyone in the world is just like him: all that matters is money, he doesn't believe in any ideology beyond money, so everyone should be negotiable if the right amount of pressure is applied, whether Iran, Putin, Zelensky, Kim or Xi. He can't undersand why Iran is still fighting and refuses to surrender. He also can't understand why both Putin and Zelensky want to keep on fighting instead of making money. It just doesn't make sense to Trump at all.

 

[potato29]

Iran not coward like him. they will fight until death.

 

[KingFook Sr]

That's why SG should have some 'distance' from the USA.

 

[syed putra]

To secure iran from future israeli air incursions iran will. Need to have bases in iraq and kuwait. 0nce US vacate their destroyed bases, iran can take over

 

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[UltimaOnline]

To secure iran from future israeli air incursions iran will. Need to have bases in iraq and kuwait. 0nce US vacate their destroyed bases, iran can take over

Then how can Israel secure itself from future Islamic terrorist attacks from Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, who are the ones chanting "Death to Israel", and are the ones ensuring the war will never end?

Israel doesn't have a "Death to all Muslims" policy like Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, who are the ones chanting "Death to Israel", Israel only retaliates in self-defence against attacks by Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah. Israel has no reason to attack Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah if they stop attacking Israel and stop chanting "Death to Israel".

You and the Islamic terrorists Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah are naive in thinking you can ever destroy Israel, so if you're smart, you'll work out a peace treaty with them instead of your "Death to Israel" nonsense which will never work. So, you want to keep being stupid and prolong the war forever, or wake up your idea and find a way to make peace?

 

[syed putra]

Israel can prevent future attacks by giving palestinians their own state. It is so simple.
Netanyahu likes to compare gaza to singapore. But sinkie is fully independent. Gaza is a prison camp. How to progress?

 

[superpower]

Then how can Israel secure itself from future Islamic terrorist attacks from Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, who are the ones chanting "Death to Israel", and are the ones ensuring the war will never end?

Israel doesn't have a "Deat to all Muslims" policy like Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, who are the ones chanting "Death to Israel", Israel only retaliates in self-defence against attacks by Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah. Israel has no reason to attack Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah if they stop attacking Israel and stop chanting "Death to Israel".

You and the Islamic terrorists Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah are naive in thinking you can ever destroy Israel, so if you're smart, you'll work out a peace treaty with them instead of your "Death to Israel" nonsense which will never work. So, you want to keep being stupid and prolong the war forever, or wake up your idea and find a way to make peace?

Peace in the Middle East will only be attained when the Palestinians get their own state, pre-1967 borders. All the troubles we see in the Middle East in the past 6 decades stem from Israel's illegal occupation of Palestinian land, unbridled settlement and turning Gaza into the world's largest concentration camp.

 

[True Believer]

Iran not coward like him. they will fight until death.

What is so brave about the Iranian leaders hiding in a bunker while sending their soldiers to their deaths against the might of the American and Israeli armed forces???

 

[True Believer]

Peace in the Middle East will only be attained when the Palestinians get their own state, pre-1967 borders. All the troubles we see in the Middle East in the past 6 decades stem from Israel's illegal occupation of Palestinian land, unbridled settlement and turning Gaza into the world's largest concentration camp.

The fact is that up to 10,000 Palestinians were given jobs inside Israel before the 7 Oct 2023 invasion by Hamas. Israel offered Gazans jobs to feed their families, but how did they repay the Israelis? By providing intelligence to Hamas to stage their attacks on Israeli civilians. I do not blame Israel for retaliating. It is like how the USA retaliated against Japan for the attack on Pearl Harbour.

 

[True Believer]

Israel can prevent future attacks by giving palestinians their own state. It is so simple.
Netanyahu likes to compare gaza to singapore. But sinkie is fully independent. Gaza is a prison camp. How to progress?

How can Palestinians be trusted? During the 7 Oct incursion into Israel, Hamas targeted Israeli homes with info supplied by Gazans working in Israel. Even Egypt and Syria refused to allow Gazans to flood in after Israel retaliated. They learned lessons from the civil unrest that Palestinians stirred up in Lebanon (civil war) and Jordan (tried to assassinate the Jordanian king). Even fellow Muslims do not trust the Palestinians.

 

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What is so brave about the Iranian leaders hiding in a bunker while sending their soldiers to their deaths against the might of the American and Israeli armed forces???

A better alternative would be for the Iranian leadership to emerge from their bunkers under a white flag to preserve their lives, welcuming their adversaries as they take control of the land. At least better than hiding in the bunkers.

 

[syed putra]

Peace in the Middle East will only be attained when the Palestinians get their own state, pre-1967 borders. All the troubles we see in the Middle East in the past 6 decades stem from Israel's illegal occupation of Palestinian land, unbridled settlement and turning Gaza into the world's largest concentration camp.

Problem is, israel wants a bigger israel .

 

[syed putra]

How can Palestinians be trusted? During the 7 Oct incursion into Israel, Hamas targeted Israeli homes with info supplied by Gazans working in Israel. Even Egypt and Syria refused to allow Gazans to flood in after Israel retaliated. They learned lessons from the civil unrest that Palestinians stirred up in Lebanon (civil war) and Jordan (tried to assassinate the Jordanian king). Even fellow Muslims do not trust the Palestinians.

Israel has no intention of treating Palestinians nicely. They want Palestinians to disappear. Only way to get a palestinian state is by violent uprising.

 

[True Believer]

A better alternative would be for the Iranian leadership to emerge from their bunkers under a white flag to preserve their lives, welcuming their adversaries as they take control of the land. At least better than hiding in the bunkers.

The best example that the Iranian leaders can show its soldiers is by leading from the front armed with a weapon instead of expecting its soldiers to do all the dying under their orders.

 

[superpower]

The best example that the Iranian leaders can show its soldiers is by leading from the front armed with a weapon instead of expecting its soldiers to do all the dying under their orders.

Do Trump and Hegseth and Vance lead his soldiers from the front armed with a weapon? If not, why expect it of Iran?

 

[True Believer]

Do Trump and Hegseth and Vance lead his soldiers from the front armed with a weapon? If not, why expect it of Iran?

What I wrote applies to all world leaders who do not hesitate to let young men die for their old men's wars.

 

[glockman]

“Older men declare war. But it is youth that must fight and die.” Herbert Hoover

 

[Willamshakespear]

Just prior to the end of WW2 in Japan, soldiers of the Shogun led Imperial Japan Army VOWED NEVER TO SURRENDER.

1. Although they no longer have a navy or air force, most of their forces STILL HELD a large swathe of Asia, with a wealth of resources and slave labor to continue the fight, as well as STOLEN material raw resources shipped to Japan hidden in bunker warehouses to re-manufacture military equipment.


2. It took consistent bombing of Japan - Operation Starvation - as well as NOT just one but TWO Atomic bombs to make the leaders - both the Shogunate and the Imperial Court to realize the futility of continued war. Eventually, the Japan Supreme Council made up of Shogunate commanders, Imperial Court Courtiers and headed by the Emperor, made the decision to surrender, as USA PrezTruman was FULLY READY to drop MORE Atomic bombs upon Japanese cities.


3. The hotheads military commanders and soldiers within the Shogunate decide to stage a military coup against the Supreme Council. Assassinations, bombings, outright protests against surrender were rife, but the Shogunate Commanders whom still control the intelligence and police forces, managed to quell the rebels, and the rest is history........


4. In Japan, it is the Shogun who calls the shots, and NOT the Emperor, as the Shogun has a large military force backing him up, for centuries. The Emperor is just a mouthpiece for the Shogun who hides behind the Emperor, provides the Emperor with food and privileges and extol him to god-like status, so as to MOTIVATE the naive and mostly uneducated serfs turned soldiers to OBEY the god-King, when it is the Shogun that make policies.


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History often repeats itself. May Humankind learn from History.

There is NO need for nukes in this era. Just shutting down the electrical power stations, fossil fuel stations, ports, railways, transportation system whereby nothing goes in or out of the country is enough to bring moronic terrorist to their knees and wake up from their 72 virgins wet dreams.