Trump - An Allied Plan to Depend Less on China

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The Covid-19 pandemic is prompting reconsideration of issues that were thought to be settled. One is the wisdom of China as a hub in vital supply chains, a reality driven by cost considerations and the belief that integrating China into the global economy would moderate Beijing’s behavior. Unfortunately, China hasn’t moderated. Beijing has been an unreliable supplier that pressures trading partners.

Roughly three-quarters of American companies report supply-chain disruptions in China, according to a spring survey conducted by the Institute for Supply Management. The Japanese and Australian economies have been severely hurt by China’s lockdown of Hubei province and other supply interruptions. China’s official Xinhua News Agency has threatened to exploit Beijing’s control over medical supply chains as retaliation against U.S. efforts to hold China accountable for its actions during the pandemic.

A re-examination is overdue. Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has set aside $2.2 billion of Tokyo’s stimulus package to assist Japanese companies in relocating production from China to Southeast Asia. The White House’s Larry Kudlow has suggested that the U.S. government could pay moving costs for U.S. companies that leave China. South Korea appears to be planning to shift several important factories from China to India.

Washington and its partners in Asia should set up new supply chains, restructure trade relations, and start to create an international economic order that is less dependent on China. A multilateral “coalition of the willing” approach would better align trading ties with political and security relationships. It would also help India and nations in Southeast Asia develop more rapidly, becoming stronger U.S. partners.

The Quadrilateral Security Dialogue is an optimal venue. Established by Prime Minister Abe in 2007 to discuss regional security issues, the Quad’s members are Japan, India, Australia and the U.S. In 2017 the Trump administration launched a free and open Indo-Pacific initiative, designed to support U.S. relations with India and offset China’s efforts to establish regional dominance. This further enhanced the importance of the Quad. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo held the first ministerial-level Quad meeting in September.

The Quad’s agenda should be broadened to include economic security, and the group could bring in partners like South Korea, Taiwan and Vietnam, in a “Quad Plus” format. Vietnam would be particularly worthy. U.S.-Vietnamese relations have improved dramatically in the past several years. Hanoi shares U.S. concerns about aggressive Chinese behavior and has been striving to become a leader in global supply-chain management and manufacturing.

The Quad-Plus should drive an agenda that balances economic, political and security imperatives. Rather than seeking to bring all supply chains to the U.S. or reorder all trade, it should focus on the most critical industries. The point would be to pair economic concerns with national-security aims, protect intellectual property, and ensure reliable access to public-health goods—so the U.S. is no longer at the mercy of Beijing for supplies in a pandemic.
 
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Fuck all Chinese people. They deserve boycott. Any place that has chinese people doing businesses must be boycotted!
 
America can ignore China and China can ignore America. These are the 2 superpowers of the world economically and militarily (America first China second), but the problem for the rest of the world is that they cannot afford to ignore either. This means that there is a lot of deals between these 2 superpowers and the rest of the world, which sometimes shifts the balance of power temporarily. My main point is that there appears to be 2 segments of this forum, the first which overestimates American and underestimates China, and the second vice versa. The reality is actually neither country should be underestimated, whether pre or post covid 19. :cool:

Yeah, the world can ignore a nation of 1.6 billion!
 
America can ignore China and China can ignore America. These are the 2 superpowers of the world economically and militarily (America first China second), but the problem for the rest of the world is that they cannot afford to ignore either. This means that there is a lot of deals between these 2 superpowers and the rest of the world, which sometimes shifts the balance of power temporarily. My main point is that there appears to be 2 segments of this forum, the first which overestimates American and underestimates China, and the second vice versa. The reality is actually neither country should be underestimated, whether pre or post covid 19. :cool:

US is alreadt bankrupt. The day I found out that even Boeing software (which is some of a national IP) is outsourced to Indians it’s gone case for good.

whatever the case Singapore is going to suffer with break down of the supply chains and death of petrodollar.
 
You are obviously in the second segment. :rolleyes::biggrin:

US is alreadt bankrupt. The day I found out that even Boeing software (which is some of a national IP) is outsourced to Indians it’s gone case for good.

whatever the case Singapore is going to suffer with break down of the supply chains and death of petrodollar.
 
Why talk about shifting around Asians countries.

Fuck US can go to South America countries than keep shifting or sniffing or scoping around Asia and Far East. There are no poor countries in Far East Asia and SEA...

Go get fuck off Asia.... go to South America, fucking Pommies...


The Covid-19 pandemic is prompting reconsideration of issues that were thought to be settled. One is the wisdom of China as a hub in vital supply chains, a reality driven by cost considerations and the belief that integrating China into the global economy would moderate Beijing’s behavior. Unfortunately, China hasn’t moderated. Beijing has been an unreliable supplier that pressures trading partners.

Roughly three-quarters of American companies report supply-chain disruptions in China, according to a spring survey conducted by the Institute for Supply Management. The Japanese and Australian economies have been severely hurt by China’s lockdown of Hubei province and other supply interruptions. China’s official Xinhua News Agency has threatened to exploit Beijing’s control over medical supply chains as retaliation against U.S. efforts to hold China accountable for its actions during the pandemic.

A re-examination is overdue. Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has set aside $2.2 billion of Tokyo’s stimulus package to assist Japanese companies in relocating production from China to Southeast Asia. The White House’s Larry Kudlow has suggested that the U.S. government could pay moving costs for U.S. companies that leave China. South Korea appears to be planning to shift several important factories from China to India.

Washington and its partners in Asia should set up new supply chains, restructure trade relations, and start to create an international economic order that is less dependent on China. A multilateral “coalition of the willing” approach would better align trading ties with political and security relationships. It would also help India and nations in Southeast Asia develop more rapidly, becoming stronger U.S. partners.

The Quadrilateral Security Dialogue is an optimal venue. Established by Prime Minister Abe in 2007 to discuss regional security issues, the Quad’s members are Japan, India, Australia and the U.S. In 2017 the Trump administration launched a free and open Indo-Pacific initiative, designed to support U.S. relations with India and offset China’s efforts to establish regional dominance. This further enhanced the importance of the Quad. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo held the first ministerial-level Quad meeting in September.

The Quad’s agenda should be broadened to include economic security, and the group could bring in partners like South Korea, Taiwan and Vietnam, in a “Quad Plus” format. Vietnam would be particularly worthy. U.S.-Vietnamese relations have improved dramatically in the past several years. Hanoi shares U.S. concerns about aggressive Chinese behavior and has been striving to become a leader in global supply-chain management and manufacturing.

The Quad-Plus should drive an agenda that balances economic, political and security imperatives. Rather than seeking to bring all supply chains to the U.S. or reorder all trade, it should focus on the most critical industries. The point would be to pair economic concerns with national-security aims, protect intellectual property, and ensure reliable access to public-health goods—so the U.S. is no longer at the mercy of Beijing for supplies in a pandemic.
 
Not too feasible as setting up another supply chain takes time and money and will likely fail. For instance Vietnam might offer cheaper labour but their productivity is nowhere near China. USA and Europe too expensive and companies will find it hard to compete. And places like India, nothing gets done.
 
America can ignore China and China can ignore America. These are the 2 superpowers of the world economically and militarily (America first China second), but the problem for the rest of the world is that they cannot afford to ignore either. This means that there is a lot of deals between these 2 superpowers and the rest of the world, which sometimes shifts the balance of power temporarily. My main point is that there appears to be 2 segments of this forum, the first which overestimates American and underestimates China, and the second vice versa. The reality is actually neither country should be underestimated, whether pre or post covid 19. :cool:

The winner is Russia. Russian will be the #1 country in the world soon after USA is decimated.
 
Putin is a strong leader, but Russia is not as powerful as the former USSR in the days of yore. :wink:

The winner is Russia. Russian will be the #1 country in the world soon after USA is decimated.
 
This buffoon MAGA lies about everything.

1. First, he was a crook property developer. Majority of property developers are cut throat scumbags who squeezed builders/traders/architects for prices with no ends in sight.

2. He was not from manufacturing background as such he knows nuts of the industry.

A vindictive property devloper background has to catch him by his collar to kick, slam, hit shits at him with no ends in sight.

Fymccb Trump Arse...

The Covid-19 pandemic is prompting reconsideration of issues that were thought to be settled. One is the wisdom of China as a hub in vital supply chains, a reality driven by cost considerations and the belief that integrating China into the global economy would moderate Beijing’s behavior. Unfortunately, China hasn’t moderated. Beijing has been an unreliable supplier that pressures trading partners.

Roughly three-quarters of American companies report supply-chain disruptions in China, according to a spring survey conducted by the Institute for Supply Management. The Japanese and Australian economies have been severely hurt by China’s lockdown of Hubei province and other supply interruptions. China’s official Xinhua News Agency has threatened to exploit Beijing’s control over medical supply chains as retaliation against U.S. efforts to hold China accountable for its actions during the pandemic.

A re-examination is overdue. Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has set aside $2.2 billion of Tokyo’s stimulus package to assist Japanese companies in relocating production from China to Southeast Asia. The White House’s Larry Kudlow has suggested that the U.S. government could pay moving costs for U.S. companies that leave China. South Korea appears to be planning to shift several important factories from China to India.

Washington and its partners in Asia should set up new supply chains, restructure trade relations, and start to create an international economic order that is less dependent on China. A multilateral “coalition of the willing” approach would better align trading ties with political and security relationships. It would also help India and nations in Southeast Asia develop more rapidly, becoming stronger U.S. partners.

The Quadrilateral Security Dialogue is an optimal venue. Established by Prime Minister Abe in 2007 to discuss regional security issues, the Quad’s members are Japan, India, Australia and the U.S. In 2017 the Trump administration launched a free and open Indo-Pacific initiative, designed to support U.S. relations with India and offset China’s efforts to establish regional dominance. This further enhanced the importance of the Quad. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo held the first ministerial-level Quad meeting in September.

The Quad’s agenda should be broadened to include economic security, and the group could bring in partners like South Korea, Taiwan and Vietnam, in a “Quad Plus” format. Vietnam would be particularly worthy. U.S.-Vietnamese relations have improved dramatically in the past several years. Hanoi shares U.S. concerns about aggressive Chinese behavior and has been striving to become a leader in global supply-chain management and manufacturing.

The Quad-Plus should drive an agenda that balances economic, political and security imperatives. Rather than seeking to bring all supply chains to the U.S. or reorder all trade, it should focus on the most critical industries. The point would be to pair economic concerns with national-security aims, protect intellectual property, and ensure reliable access to public-health goods—so the U.S. is no longer at the mercy of Beijing for supplies in a pandemic.
 
Not too feasible as setting up another supply chain takes time and money and will likely fail. For instance Vietnam might offer cheaper labour but their productivity is nowhere near China. USA and Europe too expensive and companies will find it hard to compete. And places like India, nothing gets done.
I agree that exploring alternatives will take time and money. But it needs to be done. This almost total dependency on a communist regime that is ready to plunder, lie, play dirty and persecute is not the solution either. The world can see it now, and it cannot be business as usual. Through trade and industry, we have allowed that regime to prosper and become arrogant and more ruthless. A soul-less regime that believes in intimidation and military confrontation. China being the world's factory cannot be allowed to remain so. It is not feasible to the world.
 
I agree that exploring alternatives will take time and money. But it needs to be done. This almost total dependency on a communist regime that is ready to plunder, lie, play dirty and persecute is not the solution either. The world can see it now, and it cannot be business as usual. Through trade and industry, we have allowed that regime to prosper and become arrogant and more ruthless. A soul-less regime that believes in intimidation and military confrontation. China being the world's factory cannot be allowed to remain so. It is not feasible to the world.

Chinese product vs Made-in-USA ...at the end of the day, if the price is right, you will buy at the lowest price. That's capitalism. Unless, American corporations are willing to forget about maximizing profits and thus abandon raw capitalism.
 
Chinese product vs Made-in-USA ...at the end of the day, if the price is right, you will buy at the lowest price. That's capitalism. Unless, American corporations are willing to forget about maximizing profits and thus abandon raw capitalism.
There are still many countries in Asia that can produce components or end products at low prices. They just need to buck up on quality. Democratic countries with no intent of dominating other countries and their economies. We need to wean ourselves off China.
 
There are still many countries in Asia that can produce components or end products at low prices. They just need to buck up on quality. Democratic countries with no intent of dominating other countries and their economies. We need to wean ourselves off China.

Impossible to isolate China. China can survive on its own because it has a strong-will government with iron-clad control and the majority of Ah Tiongs are willing to trade some freedoms to have freedom to make money.
 
Impossible to isolate China. China can survive on its own because it has a strong-will government with iron-clad control and the majority of Ah Tiongs are willing to trade some freedoms to have freedom to make money.
Whahaha hahahaha :biggrin::cautious::biggrin::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
 
Impossible to isolate China. China can survive on its own because it has a strong-will government with iron-clad control and the majority of Ah Tiongs are willing to trade some freedoms to have freedom to make money.
U tiong kok chee ah
 
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