truly fucked up - ccp company steals and copies ccp company’s ai codes in tiongcock

[eatshitndie]

can’t make this up. this is probably one of the biggest lol moment in ai history. confronted with trump’s hawkish surveillance and enforcement on industrial espionage and intellectual property theft especially related to ai chips and source codes, huawei found another way to steal and copy - other tiongcock company’s intellectual property - this time alibaba.

Huawei's AI lab denies that one of its Pangu models copied Alibaba's Qwen​

Reuters
Sun, July 6, 2025 at 10:59 PM PDT

BEIJING/SHANGHAI (Reuters) -Huawei's artificial intelligence research division has rejected claims that a version of its Pangu Pro large language model has copied elements from an Alibaba model, saying that it was independently developed and trained.

The division, called Noah Ark Lab, issued the statement on Saturday, a day after an entity called HonestAGI posted an English-language paper on code-sharing platform Github, saying Huawei's Pangu Pro Moe (Mixture of Experts) model showed "extraordinary correlation" with Alibaba's Qwen 2.5 14B.

This suggests that Huawei's model was derived through "upcycling" and was not trained from scratch, the paper said, prompting widespread discussion in AI circles online and in Chinese tech-focused media.

on another note, github, honestagi, pangu’s sorrow sexposed stolen fragments of code from the competition on huawei’s ai model - pangu pro.

Huawei's AI Scandal Just Exploded--And Investors Should Be Paying Attention​

Khac Phu Nguyen
2 min

Huawei is pushing backhard. Over the weekend, its secretive Noah's Ark Lab broke from its usual silence to address accusations that its new AI model, Pangu Pro MoE, borrowed code without proper credit. The model, which runs on Huawei's own Ascend chips (their homegrown answer to Nvidia's GPUs), had its source code picked apart on GitHub, where a group dubbed HonestAGI claimed it spotted unacknowledged code fragments. That post vanished. But another one, titled Pangu's Sorrow, quickly followedalleging that Huawei's team had been under intense pressure to deliver and fell behind domestic rivals in the race. In a rare rebuttal, Huawei said it fully complied with open-source licenses and welcomed technical discussion, not speculation.

 

[congo9]

The Tiong always feel that copying is the way to go. Tiong has no pride and sometimes lazy.

 

[eatshitndie]

The Tiong always feel that copying is the way to go.

under tremendous pressure and time boh pian resort to stealing friend’s homework and claiming it as own.

 

[k1976]

As US drops among Chinese study preferences, Singapore beckons with status and culture​

Universities in Singapore are beginning to offer programmes taught entirely in Mandarin and live support via WeChat for Chinese applicants

Xinyi Wu in Hong Kong
Published: 11:00am, 8 Jul 2025Updated: 1:00pm, 8 Jul 2025

Miya Zheng once aimed to earn a master’s degree when she first arrived in the United States for her undergraduate studies. But now, three years later, the Chinese national has shifted her sights halfway across the world – to Singapore.

“After staying here for some time, I realised that this isn’t quite the right place for me in the long run,” said Zheng, who is majoring in economics and statistics in the US and aspires to work outside China after graduating.

She has faced increasing hurdles as an international student in America. Difficulties adjusting to cultural differences coupled with her parents’ concerns about safety have prompted her to apply to Singapore’s top two universities in the coming application cycle.

“Singapore offers a great environment,” said Zheng, who is drawn to the nation’s warm climate, abundance of Chinese cuisine and relatively high economic and diplomatic openness.

 

[superpower]

TS is behind the times la. This is called industrial espionage. US companies do it on each other all the time.

Ten years ago when I saw knock-offs of Xiaomi products on Taobao, I told my friend: Xiaomi has arrived. Hitherto the Chinese had been copying Western products; when a local product was worthy of copying, it meant that local design and innovation had come of age.

By the way, one of the reasons why BYD cancelled its Mexico factory - apart from the new tariffs - is the fear that the US will lay hands on it Blade lithium iron phosphate battery for reverse engineering, as Mexico's IT laws are still in their infancy and the govt could not guarantee tech leaks across the border.

 

[syed putra]

What is there to copy from the US? The top 4 US semiconductor firm CEO are all chinese.
2 from Taiwan, 2 from Jiu hu.

 

[k1976]

Well, Tiong just love copy-n-paste

 

[superpower]

Well, Tiong just love copy-n-paste

Copy is easy, reverse engineering is hard. That's where the Tiongs excel.

But soon the rest of the world will be trying to reverse engineer Tiong products.

 

[laksaboy]

Huawei is a GLC of the CCP regime, Alibaba is the baby of Jack Ma.

And that's why when Huawei's EV caused the death of a few ATBs, the media coverage was highly censored. Other Chinese EV brands didn't get a similar privilege.

Remember this the next time you want to buy another Huawei/Honor product.

 

[k1976]

Copy is easy, reverse engineering is hard. That's where the Tiongs excel.

But soon the rest of the world will be trying to reverse engineer Tiong products.

Tiongkok is very good in using their thousands hands approach to “copy”

 

[k1976]

Copy is easy, reverse engineering is hard. That's where the Tiongs excel.

But soon the rest of the world will be trying to reverse engineer Tiong products.

Now Nippon n Bayee is busy to “reverse engineering” Tiongkok PL15

 

[k1976]

What is there to copy from the US? The top 4 US semiconductor firm CEO are all chinese.
2 from Taiwan, 2 from Jiu hu.

EUV Litho n Adv photoresist chemistry
The very 2keys to unlock 3nm n below

 

[congo9]

TS is behind the times la. This is called industrial espionage. US companies do it on each other all the time.

Ten years ago when I saw knock-offs of Xiaomi products on Taobao, I told my friend: Xiaomi has arrived. Hitherto the Chinese had been copying Western products; when a local product was worthy of copying, it meant that local design and innovation had come of age.

By the way, one of the reasons why BYD cancelled its Mexico factory - apart from the new tariffs - is the fear that the US will lay hands on it Blade lithium iron phosphate battery for reverse engineering, as Mexico's IT laws are still in their infancy and the govt could not guarantee tech leaks across the border.

Copying BYD battery tech ? Haha.
Reverse engineering is not that difficult.

Why China can't reverse engineer duv machinery. Why they can't reverse engineer rolls Royce engine ?
Why can't they reverse engineer good petrol engine ?

The barrier to entry of a EV is so damn low now. Even a rat poison company came in recent and wanted to make their own EV. THERE is supply chain to it, from your car design, car battery,EV engine.

 

[winnipegjets]

The Tiong always feel that copying is the way to go. Tiong has no pride and sometimes lazy.

Why reinvent the wheel? Build on existing technology. Tiongs are smart.

 

[eatshitndie]

TS is behind the times la. This is called industrial espionage. US companies do it on each other all the time.

Ten years ago when I saw knock-offs of Xiaomi products on Taobao, I told my friend: Xiaomi has arrived. Hitherto the Chinese had been copying Western products; when a local product was worthy of copying, it meant that local design and innovation had come of age.

By the way, one of the reasons why BYD cancelled its Mexico factory - apart from the new tariffs - is the fear that the US will lay hands on it Blade lithium iron phosphate battery for reverse engineering, as Mexico's IT laws are still in their infancy and the govt could not guarantee tech leaks across the border.

in amerika it’s patent infringement, in tiongcock it’s cannibalism. pigs eat pigs, rats eat rats.

 

[laksaboy]

If you want a taste of Tiong AI (chatbot), head over to Baidu.

Knowledge of the Chinese language will be very helpful. It's hilarious.

https://chat.baidu.com

 

[Hypocrite-The]

in amerika it’s patent infringement, in tiongcock it’s cannibalism. pigs eat pigs, rats eat rats.

Chicons eat chicons...wat is new?

 

[mojito]

No excuse! It be longs to the pee pearl.

 

[laksaboy]

in amerika it’s patent infringement, in tiongcock it’s cannibalism. pigs eat pigs, rats eat rats.

You see it in Sinkieland: Tiong mala restaurant copycat another Tiong mala restaurant, Tiong massage spa copycat another Tiong massage spa. Utterly unimaginative and shameless, that's what trashy Tiongs are.

 

[eatshitndie]

You see it in Sinkieland: Tiong mala restaurant copycat another Tiong mala restaurant, Tiong massage spa copycat another Tiong massage spa. Utterly unimaginative and shameless, that's what trashy Tiongs are.

69 years of commie cannibalism and backstabbing.