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Thank you to our readers who spoke up for our credibility
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~by: Ravi Philemon~
Yesterday we linked this The New Paper (TNP) article on our Facebook (see HERE) with the following comment:
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Within 12 hours, we had garnered over 120 comments most of them supportive of TOC. We list here some of the supportive comments from our Facebook:
Jon Zephanius: This is good–it means TOC has become a force to be reckoned with. And also, as much as they are trying to kill you, in order to do so, they have broken an unspoken rule not to mention TOC’s name in the news. The more they try to kill TOC, the more they publicise its name. Let them come and try.
Shalenny Radzali: to be fair, TOC headlines are the same as those in magazines/newspaper/TNP. their main objective are the same for all & that is to entice readers to proceed reading the article/watching e video. whatever readers think of the article is entirely up to them & i think TOC is in no way trying to manipulate ppl’s mind. so thank you TOC for giving us an avenue to read fair & accurate news.
Faizal Basir: TOC…where truth be told…no cover ups, no lies…Job well done!
Abner Koh: why are people bashing TOC? TOC has gone a long way since its beginning days with Zhengxi and Andrew… even if they make a mistake, i think they will learn from it and come out more respectable.
Andi Mohamad: I looked at TOC’s headline…then watched the video..and made my own judgement. In anycase, TOC did not mislead anyone…in fact..I thank TOC for bringing forward the issue. I’m sure that those who watched the video made their own conclusion with no influence from anyone/any source. Once again, thank you TOC.
David Chan: Actually being critical does not equals being anti-establishment. Also, maybe one of the reason why singapore’s MSM is ranked so low is this: if a similar incident were to happened in any other developed country, the media would have been critical about the incident. Over here, the language are very ‘cushioned’. The BlogTV episode is available for all to see and the SMRT press statement as quoted had been clarified. Yet MSM continue to not mention that. Yes, the question of ‘fair and accurate’ needs to be ask.
Zahara Amed Han: Let’s just say, if TOC had not reported the racists remarks SHT mentioned on CNA, would be so far out to think that we won’t see the video elsewhere?? I bet if the video came from another source, almost all of us would have come to the same conclusion. It is absurd to have them deny that what he said was not racist. If anything, their defence of him would have me think it is all right to have your party members spew out racist comments. But then again this is not the first this has happen. Anyway most us are used to the tactics that MSM adopts in this situation. We at the very least not DAFT.
Dahiyaht Sven Gagarin: Sorry TOC. You are the scapegoat.
Qi Jin: Please don’t get slayed. It’s hard to find a local independent & netural news source. TOC has always quoted the gist of the news followed by links to the actual source. Believe that we are mature enough to make own judgements based on the source rather than looking at peoples’ quotes. According to smrt’s reply, it seems that mr Seng has also done a misquote..so..bottom line is regardless the PR’s comment, does he agree with it, enough to be re-paraphrased into his public interviews? Is he aware what he is doing at the point of comment? Consider the timing of this saga, it seems too coincidental for us to forget about the train lapses, but not for the ones who have stuck in them and people who commutes regularly using it. lolx
Melvin Wong: I think the government should concentrate on getting SMRT back in shape instead of wading into a issue that suggest they are trying to win the pr war by muddying and spinning the truth through the main local media. The more they try to put TOC on trial by the media , the more it looks like they circling their wagon to defend their own.
Adrian Tan: Juz remember this. SMRT denies any of its staff made the comment that Han attributed to SMRT staff. So the headline was correct. The statement was Han’s and Han’s alone. To misquote Shamugam, “A significant part of what has been attributed to SMRT is false, to be quite blunt about it.” Move on, those who rant and criticise TOC. Wrong example. TOC has the luck of the devil. According to Milton’s mythology, the devil is on the side of freedom fighters.
Zaffar Ali: I will vouch for TOC no matter what!!!
Ching Man Liu: TOC, would like to you all to know that some of us are really grateful to have you around. You represent hope for local media by asking important questions main stream media never bothered asking! If some people find it uncomfortable answering these questions, it shouldn’t be your fault. Please stay strong and stay true to your cause!
Kwan Yue Keng: I did not find anything remotely “racist” about TOC’s report on SHT’s remarks. IMHO,it is the PAP Indian MPs (Inderjit Singh, Shanmugan and Hri Kumar) who are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill – all their arguments are merely self-serving when the man himself had apologised and said his own remarks are a “regrettable mistake”. How come PAP Malay MPs have criticised SHT’s remarks and “distanced themselves” from it but Indian MPs are defending it?
Shai Sudirman: Anyway TOC, please don’t go anywhere. You are like the Al Jazeera of Singapore. I need a news source of such calibre. =))
Teo Chin Tat: Thomas Slaying or not, lets put our money where our mouth is – donate to TOC.
TOC would like to thank all our readers, well-wishers and supporters for their kind words, as well as criticisms. Both will only make us stronger.
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Thank you to our readers who spoke up for our credibility
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~by: Ravi Philemon~
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<big>1. Quote one person saying, “I find TOC a dependable source of news, which is why I found the report disturbing.”
2. Quote the Law and Foreign Affairs Minister saying, “A significant part of what has been attributed to Mr Seng is false”.
3. Quote Cherian George saying, “Omitting to mention that the speaker you’re quoting is quoting someone else can be a little misleading”.
4. Mention that TOC has nothing else to say at this time.
5. Quote Eugene Tan saying, “…but one hopes this issue has not subjected the social fabrics here to strain”.
6. To ask the question, “Online Journalists fair and accurate?” (TNP) </big>
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<big></big>2. Quote the Law and Foreign Affairs Minister saying, “A significant part of what has been attributed to Mr Seng is false”.
3. Quote Cherian George saying, “Omitting to mention that the speaker you’re quoting is quoting someone else can be a little misleading”.
4. Mention that TOC has nothing else to say at this time.
5. Quote Eugene Tan saying, “…but one hopes this issue has not subjected the social fabrics here to strain”.
6. To ask the question, “Online Journalists fair and accurate?” (TNP) </big>
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Within 12 hours, we had garnered over 120 comments most of them supportive of TOC. We list here some of the supportive comments from our Facebook:
Jon Zephanius: This is good–it means TOC has become a force to be reckoned with. And also, as much as they are trying to kill you, in order to do so, they have broken an unspoken rule not to mention TOC’s name in the news. The more they try to kill TOC, the more they publicise its name. Let them come and try.
Shalenny Radzali: to be fair, TOC headlines are the same as those in magazines/newspaper/TNP. their main objective are the same for all & that is to entice readers to proceed reading the article/watching e video. whatever readers think of the article is entirely up to them & i think TOC is in no way trying to manipulate ppl’s mind. so thank you TOC for giving us an avenue to read fair & accurate news.
Faizal Basir: TOC…where truth be told…no cover ups, no lies…Job well done!
Abner Koh: why are people bashing TOC? TOC has gone a long way since its beginning days with Zhengxi and Andrew… even if they make a mistake, i think they will learn from it and come out more respectable.
Andi Mohamad: I looked at TOC’s headline…then watched the video..and made my own judgement. In anycase, TOC did not mislead anyone…in fact..I thank TOC for bringing forward the issue. I’m sure that those who watched the video made their own conclusion with no influence from anyone/any source. Once again, thank you TOC.
David Chan: Actually being critical does not equals being anti-establishment. Also, maybe one of the reason why singapore’s MSM is ranked so low is this: if a similar incident were to happened in any other developed country, the media would have been critical about the incident. Over here, the language are very ‘cushioned’. The BlogTV episode is available for all to see and the SMRT press statement as quoted had been clarified. Yet MSM continue to not mention that. Yes, the question of ‘fair and accurate’ needs to be ask.
Zahara Amed Han: Let’s just say, if TOC had not reported the racists remarks SHT mentioned on CNA, would be so far out to think that we won’t see the video elsewhere?? I bet if the video came from another source, almost all of us would have come to the same conclusion. It is absurd to have them deny that what he said was not racist. If anything, their defence of him would have me think it is all right to have your party members spew out racist comments. But then again this is not the first this has happen. Anyway most us are used to the tactics that MSM adopts in this situation. We at the very least not DAFT.
Dahiyaht Sven Gagarin: Sorry TOC. You are the scapegoat.
Qi Jin: Please don’t get slayed. It’s hard to find a local independent & netural news source. TOC has always quoted the gist of the news followed by links to the actual source. Believe that we are mature enough to make own judgements based on the source rather than looking at peoples’ quotes. According to smrt’s reply, it seems that mr Seng has also done a misquote..so..bottom line is regardless the PR’s comment, does he agree with it, enough to be re-paraphrased into his public interviews? Is he aware what he is doing at the point of comment? Consider the timing of this saga, it seems too coincidental for us to forget about the train lapses, but not for the ones who have stuck in them and people who commutes regularly using it. lolx
Melvin Wong: I think the government should concentrate on getting SMRT back in shape instead of wading into a issue that suggest they are trying to win the pr war by muddying and spinning the truth through the main local media. The more they try to put TOC on trial by the media , the more it looks like they circling their wagon to defend their own.
Adrian Tan: Juz remember this. SMRT denies any of its staff made the comment that Han attributed to SMRT staff. So the headline was correct. The statement was Han’s and Han’s alone. To misquote Shamugam, “A significant part of what has been attributed to SMRT is false, to be quite blunt about it.” Move on, those who rant and criticise TOC. Wrong example. TOC has the luck of the devil. According to Milton’s mythology, the devil is on the side of freedom fighters.
Zaffar Ali: I will vouch for TOC no matter what!!!
Ching Man Liu: TOC, would like to you all to know that some of us are really grateful to have you around. You represent hope for local media by asking important questions main stream media never bothered asking! If some people find it uncomfortable answering these questions, it shouldn’t be your fault. Please stay strong and stay true to your cause!
Kwan Yue Keng: I did not find anything remotely “racist” about TOC’s report on SHT’s remarks. IMHO,it is the PAP Indian MPs (Inderjit Singh, Shanmugan and Hri Kumar) who are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill – all their arguments are merely self-serving when the man himself had apologised and said his own remarks are a “regrettable mistake”. How come PAP Malay MPs have criticised SHT’s remarks and “distanced themselves” from it but Indian MPs are defending it?
Shai Sudirman: Anyway TOC, please don’t go anywhere. You are like the Al Jazeera of Singapore. I need a news source of such calibre. =))
Teo Chin Tat: Thomas Slaying or not, lets put our money where our mouth is – donate to TOC.
TOC would like to thank all our readers, well-wishers and supporters for their kind words, as well as criticisms. Both will only make us stronger.
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