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TNP vs TR - Getting a taste of its own medicine

aurvandil

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The following was published by TNP over the weekend. Quite interesting if you superimpose this against who has been saying what in SBF.

Getting a taste of its own medicine?

http://www.temasekreview.com/2010/10/24/getting-a-taste-of-its-own-medicine/

A war of wills is breaking out on the Internet. Even as Temasek Review (TR), the anti-government socio-political website, is pitching itself as a watchdog, netizens are setting up anti-TR sites and blogs. These netizens are now trawling cyberspace to expose TR.

And the cause of the conflict? Netizens claimed that TR had launched smear campaigns against individuals and they’re now hitting back.

These netizens have accused the site of everything from plagiarism to stalking.

Now the conflict has taken a twist with a foreign blog claiming it has a sex video of someone linked to TR.

The foreign blog focuses on risque images and sex scandals, especially those involving celebrities.

The 10-minute video, posted on Oct 19, depicts the TR man as having sex with an unknown woman. But the man has since claimed in an e-mail to the blog that his face was superimposed in the “doctored” video.

He has also asked the blog to remove the video but the blog is refusing to do so.

“Doctored”

Instead, it posed the man’s e-mail on its site, a move not missed by netizens who say that was TR’s own tactic when receiving complaints in the past.

But what does the man in the leaked sex tape have to say about the whole episode?

He told The New Paper on Sunday that he has written to the blog and that the video was “obviously doctored” and that it was an “amateurish job”.

“I have already written to the administrator of the site to ask them to take it down. Anyone can see that it’s not me,” he said.

The foreign blog’s administrator said the TR man did claim this but insisted they got it right.

In the same posting, the blog’s administrator added: “Well at least he admitted that it is in fact his face in the video.

“Never actually thought we would get that much from him.”

Two lawyers The New Paper on Sunday spoke to said the video could be defamatory if it’s not the person the blog claims it is.

It may even amount to criminal defamation.

“The person could make a police report and it is up to the police to pursue the matter,” said a lawyer who declined to be named.

The man in the video said he is now seeking legal advice as to how he can “deal with the whole issue”.

But he won’t be making a police report.

He said: “I just want to get on with my life. If I make a police report, this whole thing will just drag on and on.

“I will keep getting phone calls from journalists and others and spend my whole time dealing with it.

“I just want to move on and concentrate on my work. After two or three days, people will forget about this.”

Several netizens have said TR is now getting a taste of its own medicine.

These netizens have posted on several forums claiming the website is guilty of ripping off articles from other blogs and online publications.

They also accused the site of stalking and making false accusations.

Even worse, a picture purportedlt of TR contributor Molina Han has turned out to be a stock picture from an image resource company.

But others like politician Goh Meng Seng feel it is time to move on.

He was previously flamed by the site which accused him wrongfully of, among other things, infidelity, said Mr Goh.

Referring to the netizens who attacked him, the secretary-general of the National Solidarity Party said: “Sometimes people are mischievous. He (the writer) probably thought he was very clever with hiding behind anonymity.”

Many of the postings on TR are written anonymously or with monikers.

Mr Goh, 40, claimed that he and his party colleagues had a suspect in mind when they tracked the Internet Protocol (IP) address to the contributor.

He exaplined: “Some of us who were being disturbed by him did our own tracking two to three years ago.

“We tracked him down to a unique IP address which belonged to the Health Ministry.”

He said they didn’t pursue the matter further.

Explaining why, he said: “It was a small matter to us. We are more concerned with the political front and moving forward.”

Smear campaign

Netizens also accused the blogsite, Wayang Party, of being behind a smear campaign against the Workers’ Party (WP) in 2007. Some of those behind the TR site now were previously contributing to Wayang Party.

In 2007, posters and pamphlets slamming the WP appeared outside the Fortunate Restaurant in Toa Payoh, where WP was hosting its 50th anniversary dinner.

At the same time, in cyberspace, a blog was set up to challenge the WP but its anonymous author told The Straits Times via e-mail then that he was not responsible for the posters and pamphlets.

WP chairman Sylvia Lim told The New Paper on Sunday that the party did not pursue the matter.

“We have moved on from the incident. Even if we know it is this person behind the attack, we are unlikely to do anything about it,” she said.

“People can do what they like. We can’t please everyone. We have better things to concentrate on, such as the upcoming elections.”

Ng Wan Ching (Hp no: 9823 0493)
[email protected]
 
Not lodging police report? Very unlikely of Joseph Ong, unless the video is real?

:D:D:D:D

Two lawyers The New Paper on Sunday spoke to said the video could be defamatory if it’s not the person the blog claims it is.

It may even amount to criminal defamation.

“The person could make a police report and it is up to the police to pursue the matter,” said a lawyer who declined to be named.

The man in the video said he is now seeking legal advice as to how he can “deal with the whole issue”.

But he won’t be making a police report.
 
Not lodging police report? Very unlikely of Joseph Ong, unless the video is real?

:D:D:D:D

the video is boring... if that is Joe Ong, he lose out to the MCA Dr.Chua...that is the standard...no wonder, we have so low reproduction rate... ha ha ha :D
 
aurvandil said:
Other than Shin Min, no other MSM paper has carried the Dr Joe Ong sex tape story. Even TNP which exposed Dr Ong is strangely quiet.

Why do they all seem so afraid?

When they don't carry the story, you say they afraid.
When they carry the story, you say they using threaten tactics.

You seem to have an explanation for whether there is or there isn't. :rolleyes:

So now TNP carry the story, what kind of story you going to think of? :p
 
But what does the man in the leaked sex tape have to say about the whole episode?

He told The New Paper on Sunday that he has written to the blog and that the video was “obviously doctored” and that it was an “amateurish job”.

“I have already written to the administrator of the site to ask them to take it down. Anyone can see that it’s not me,” he said.

Joe Ong self-pawn. If he says anyone can't see it's him, why does he say his face was "doctored" onto the video? If it's an amateurish job, and can do until like this, then it is no longer amateurish but a very professional job.

Don't believe can ask those SDP members who loves putting videos up web. Tell those amateurs to do doctoring on video, and I can say even they are clueless on how to "doctor" a face onto a video.
 
So now TNP carry the story, what kind of story you going to think of? :p

Compared to the first article, this article seems very cautious to avoid saying anything defamatory.

Why would a journalist from mighty SPH be wary of a nobody like Dr Ong?
 
Joe Ong self-pawn. If he says anyone can't see it's him, why does he say his face was "doctored" onto the video? If it's an amateurish job, and can do until like this, then it is no longer amateurish but a very professional job.

If you re-read the TNP article carefully, TNP seems much less confident that the vid is real.

The previous Shin Min article didn't even mention Dr Ong's name.

Given SPH's power and resources, why are they so cautious and afraid?
 
Compared to the first article, this article seems very cautious to avoid saying anything defamatory.

Why would a journalist from mighty SPH be wary of a nobody like Dr Ong?

You got to get your facts right. Joe Ong is wary of TNP. Not the other way.

If not, care to explain why Joe Ong said he would sue TNP if they reveal his identity? And why the lawyer letter haven't send yet? He got no lawyer or don't want to issue?
 
If you re-read the TNP article carefully, TNP seems much less confident that the vid is real.

The previous Shin Min article didn't even mention Dr Ong's name.

Given SPH's power and resources, why are they so cautious and afraid?

Free speech doesn't mean irresponsible speech.

Temasek review do things, they don't care, they just drop their nuclear bombs without finding out whether its true or factual and let people interpret.

So if you are expecting a local paper to do things the way Temasek Review is doing, read my 1st sentence.
 
If not, care to explain why Joe Ong said he would sue TNP if they reveal his identity? And why the lawyer letter haven't send yet? He got no lawyer or don't want to issue?

It is no biggie for an individual person to make legal threats that they don't carry out. I don't see why you are so surprised and hung up over it.

On Dr Joe Ong being afraid, the TR output since he was exposed seem to suggest a complete lack of fear. TR has continued its usual anti-PAP articles and seems to be engaged in a war of words with BOTH TH and SPH.
 
It is no biggie for an individual person to make legal threats that they don't carry out. I don't see why you are so surprised and hung up over it.

On Dr Joe Ong being afraid, the TR output since he was exposed seem to suggest a complete lack of fear. TR has continued its usual anti-PAP articles and seems to be engaged in a war of words with BOTH TH and SPH.

I am not surprised at all. In fact, I am laughing at his credibility. If you are not going to sue someone at all, don't use the word "sue". you make yourself look like a monkey.
 
It is no biggie for an individual person to make legal threats that they don't carry out. I don't see why you are so surprised and hung up over it.

On Dr Joe Ong being afraid, the TR output since he was exposed seem to suggest a complete lack of fear. TR has continued its usual anti-PAP articles and seems to be engaged in a war of words with BOTH TH and SPH.

Are you reading the same TR?? Everything is cut and paste from other sources now. The only original articles are those written to attack TNP and defend Joseph Ong.

Analyse that.
 
If you re-read the TNP article carefully, TNP seems much less confident that the vid is real.

The previous Shin Min article didn't even mention Dr Ong's name.

Given SPH's power and resources, why are they so cautious and afraid?

Actually the TNP is less confident with Joseph Ong's denial. If you read this line in the article:

The man in the video said he is now seeking legal advice as to how he can “deal with the whole issue”.

They called joseph ong the man in the video. :)
 
Actually the TNP is less confident with Joseph Ong's denial. If you read this line in the article:

The man in the video said he is now seeking legal advice as to how he can “deal with the whole issue”.

They called joseph ong the man in the video. :)

Joe Ong wont dare to seek any legal action or make any police report.

if he doesm he himself uis gulity of commiting quite a few crimes himself including keeping pornographic materials of himself. Kind of like shooting himself in the foot and crotch if he does that.

So end of the day, the only legal matter will be between TH and TR and even that, Joe Ong will go down in flames. The guy obviously dont know how deep shit he was in when he started this.
 
Don't waste your time. I don't think reads widely and does not understand what aggregation means with or without crediting the source. He still does not understand what is going on. He probably has no idea why they did the $1 deal.

Are you reading the same TR?? Everything is cut and paste from other sources now. The only original articles are those written to attack TNP and defend Joseph Ong.

Analyse that.
 
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