TJS's Thank You Speech

[steffychun]

His efforts are diffused, much like his recent campaign for presidency.

He made no effort at all

 

[lockeliberal]

dear check

In any system except first past the post he would be king. PR mixed PR etc etc etc. In FPTP as was the case pointed out by the PE he is nothing except a spoiler in a GE n PE

That vote bank of his is split all over Singapore, in a one on one fight against the PAP can he do better than the 39 in Holland Bukit GRC. Is he dumb enough to go for a three cornered fight and assume that the 25 % a given because he is the great TAN JEE SAY ?



Locke

He lost two elections. In advanced democracies, losers are always painted as if they're imbecles by media, mainstream or otherwise.

Not sure I'd discount him too much though. Newbie in politics. But it was a baptism of fire. There is without question a support base he has built. At least 25%. Some younger opposition politicians gravitated to him. Nothing to rival PAP or WP, but not trivial. This speach was to his support base.

If he's able to persuade, through words and action in the coming years, more to his base, he'd be force to reckon. Or at least, he'd be sort out for access to his support base.

 

[Khun Ying Pojaman]

I think Chua Kim Yeow is a political genius. If I'm not wrong, he garnered more than 40% with so much lesser exposure than TJS, and zero rally with zero volunteers.

Chua Kim Yeow could have been the messiah.

 

[Nik1971]

I think Chua Kim Yeow is a political genius. If I'm not wrong, he garnered more than 40% with so much lesser exposure than TJS, and zero rally with zero volunteers.

Chua Kim Yeow could have been the messiah.

Agreed. Chua is the real deal. As for TJS, he is history...

 

[Nik1971]

A very down-to-earth speech by someone who so humble and direct.
TJS has shown that he is with the people and has their concerns close to his heart. Valuable attributes of a good leader.
It is true that he is a political newbie (by his own confession) but he has matured into a national figure within just 4 months. This is a feat and it clearly demonstrate that he has created and carved a path ahead of him that will lead to Singaporeans in becoming politically matured and more keen to serve their country with true care and concern.
There is no school where leaders can be created, neither can leadership be bought off from a shelf in a supermarket. Environment and situation plays a big role in moulding leaders. Time will carve leaders. History has proven this to be a fact.
The fact that this man got a million supporters (not taking into consideration those that voted for TCB and TKL) is a clear indicator that many Singaporeans wants a change.
The PAP should take the results of the last GE and recent PE as a sign that Singaporeans are yearning for a change and enable them to get what they actually want.
It is true that those residing in Ivory Towers slowly and surely loose touch with the ordinary men on the street.
I am sure the PAP under the leadership of LHL can make the difference. It has to go back to the days where LKY was so close to the people that he became so endeared to Singaporeans. As a young man he became the CM and then the PM.
The ball is in the PAP court.

I read your post again and reflected on it. I get this feeling that you are mockin TJS. Am i right?

 

[SalahParking]

Assentor of Tony Tan is a good friend of mine??? Huh..who is it?


tycoon schoolmate in RI who invested millions in a British company??? double huh?? ...Peter Lim ??


How many degrees of separation can there be in Singapore. everyone is a friend of a friend....

 

[scroobal]

I noticed that he is likes name dropping. So far Margaret Thatcher's cabinet sec, his University Hall master, TT's assentor, RI schoolmate, etc. Seems to be an affliction and he can't help himself.

During the GE he was fine and I was impressed with his economic essay and it was truly well done. The PAP could not knock it down. The PE however was all wrong. My sense is that he is trying to create a profile and support base.


This speech and the book seems to be in the realm of hubris.

 

[rainnix]

For him not to join any political party but galvanize for opposition coalition hides his true intent of his claim. It frees himself to choose whichever benefit himself the most. If the coalition goes well, he will then swoop in like an eagle to become the leader of the coalition (武林盟主) just because he mooted the idea.

If not, he will start a new party giving the reason that the old parties had too much baggage to have ever have formed an alliance and pull those who support his views to his new party. By that time, he will backstab (not that he had not done it before) a lot of political parties and create himself as the next messiah of the oppositions to hoodwink the people.

Unfortunately the majority of the opposition supporters and even naive politicians will believe him.

 

[steffychun]

I noticed that he is likes name dropping. So far Margaret Thatcher's cabinet sec, his University Hall master, TT's assentor, RI schoolmate, etc. Seems to be an affliction and he can't help himself.

During the GE he was fine and I was impressed with his economic essay and it was truly well done. The PAP could not knock it down. The PE however was all wrong. My sense is that he is trying to create a profile and support base.


This speech and the book seems to be in the realm of hubris.

Agree, but all the names point to elite and neoliberal people.

His economic essay can be knocked down. Just look at the Economist debate between Ha-Joon Chang and J Bhagwati on services and manufacturing.

 

[steffychun]

For him not to join any political party but galvanize for opposition coalition hides his true intent of his claim. It frees himself to choose whichever benefit himself the most. If the coalition goes well, he will then swoop in like an eagle to become the leader of the coalition (武林盟主) just because he mooted the idea.

If not, he will start a new party giving the reason that the old parties had too much baggage to have ever have formed an alliance and pull those who support his views to his new party. By that time, he will backstab (not that he had not done it before) a lot of political parties and create himself as the next messiah of the oppositions to hoodwink the people.

Unfortunately the majority of the opposition supporters and even naive politicians will believe him.

The dumb, believing in pure democracy people will.

 

[Checker]

True he's a little late into the field at age 57, but so is Chen SM. Don't really see that as a problem.

The name dropping of elderly UK academics is not doing him favours. Unlike in Asia, most people past 60-65 aren't taken seriously in the West unless they're really bigwigs. Does look like the people he's naming are way past their prime and influence. All these reminiscing of RI schoolboy days are also cheesy. Rookie mistakes - let's see how fast he learns.

The apparent lack of major power figures in their prime age supporting him may be more problematic.

The good thing here is that he's inserted himself into the public eye. Even more when he writes his book. Of course everything could backfire, or not. In any case, people will know more of this character and be better able to judge.

Another possible effect is that better and stronger players may be encouraged to get into the field. Think what we need are more strong players into the field... not less. Then the Darwinian process of survival of the fittest can take place.

 

[Fook Seng]

Agree, but all the names point to elite and neoliberal people.

His economic essay can be knocked down. Just look at the Economist debate between Ha-Joon Chang and J Bhagwati on services and manufacturing.

Ya. His economic essay can be knocked down and it don't have to be services vs manufacturing. His proposal is all about how to spend money.

 

[Annoyed]

Yes, now that you've mentioned it, TJS seems to have a penchant for that. "Affliction" is the right word, because name-dropping does you no favors in the long run. Hell, if you were THAT good, you wouldn't have to keep making other people the subject of your conversations.

"Hubris" too is an apt description. I also like Captain Xerox's allusion to the publication as an attempt at "myth-making".

I noticed that he is likes name dropping. So far Margaret Thatcher's cabinet sec, his University Hall master, TT's assentor, RI schoolmate, etc. Seems to be an affliction and he can't help himself.

This speech and the book seems to be in the realm of hubris.

 

[Wang Ye]

If he is so much more popular that WP, how come he lost in the GRC?

 

[steffychun]

Ya. His economic essay can be knocked down and it don't have to be services vs manufacturing. His proposal is all about how to spend money.

It was essential about services.

 

[steffychun]

If he is so much more popular that WP, how come he lost in the GRC?

Because he has too much Chee Soon Juan in him

 

[steffychun]

True he's a little late into the field at age 57, but so is Chen SM. Don't really see that as a problem.

The name dropping of elderly UK academics is not doing him favours. Unlike in Asia, most people past 60-65 aren't taken seriously in the West unless they're really bigwigs. Does look like the people he's naming are way past their prime and influence. All these reminiscing of RI schoolboy days are also cheesy. Rookie mistakes - let's see how fast he learns.

The apparent lack of major power figures in their prime age supporting him may be more problematic.

The good thing here is that he's inserted himself into the public eye. Even more when he writes his book. Of course everything could backfire, or not. In any case, people will know more of this character and be better able to judge.

Another possible effect is that better and stronger players may be encouraged to get into the field. Think what we need are more strong players into the field... not less. Then the Darwinian process of survival of the fittest can take place.

They weren't even globally famous academics/figrueheads at all. Lord Butler--serving under Thatcher, Sir Ivor--democracy promoter? Spells out TJS's beliefs.

 

[Fook Seng]

It was essential about services.

There are two kinds of services - one, those dealing with foreigners and you earn foreign exchange like tourism (but TJS is against IR and many people in this forum are against F1), financial services and entreport trade. There is no limit to growth in this. The world is the limit. The other is domestic services which basically relates to consumption eg Spas, wellness, sports, education, healthcare etc which is what TJS is suggesting. Being consumption, it's a service limited by population expansion, something most of us do not want. If you ask me, we should focus on the first type as tourism is not easy to take it away from you. If someone wants to see Singapore and you have built up a brand around it, you cannot tell him I have another place that looks like Singapore. Come here instead.

 

[steffychun]

There are two kinds of services - one, those dealing with foreigners and you earn foreign exchange like tourism (but TJS is against IR and many people in this forum are against F1), financial services and entreport trade. There is no limit to growth in this. The world is the limit. The other is domestic services which basically relates to consumption eg Spas, wellness, sports, education, healthcare etc which is what TJS is suggesting. Being consumption, it's a service limited by population expansion, something most of us do not want. If you ask me, we should focus on the first type as tourism is not easy to take it away from you. If someone wants to see Singapore and you have built up a brand around it, you cannot tell him I have another place that looks like Singapore. Come here instead.

It was a free-market plan on services.

 

[lee6100]

He has little to offer. 11 years of being quiet and all he has done was to earn his own money and then suddenly hate the casinos.

It's all about dollars and cents. He wants to publish a book because he needs the money, having spent it on the GE and PE. He hasn't done well since leaving government service which was why he was eying the MP's pay in the GE. And later, going for broke, the President's pay.