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TJS did not lose in this presidential contest

The_Hypocrite

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TJS is not the one that help TT, it was TKL and the singaporeans that voted TT,,,please dont blame the wrong people
 

SotongMee

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ROTFLOL what about Sotong in the Mee Wok?

This PE has thought me a great lesson on the similarity between sotongs in the sea and those on land.

1. Sotongs in the sea are attracted to light and are caught by man. Sotongs on land are attracted to limelight and are used by man.

2. Sotongs in the sea when cornered will release ink to buy time to escape. Unfortunately, man is still aware of their location and catch them. Sotongs on land will release nonsense like "25% will void their votes and it will not make a difference". Unfortunately, man can understand the difference between 25% and 0.5% and will still nail them.

3. Sotong when dried is called JuiHee and its initial is SJ. On land, its initial is reversed because its brain is dead from birth. Even if we manage to resuscitate the brain to life, it will still only have the capacity of a sotong, nowhere near that of man.
 

halsey02

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Comparing to TKL who was already a well known figure to many Singaporeans, TJS burst onto the scene only in Feb this year and he still managed to garner 25% of the votes as against 5% by TKL. To me, that is an achievement already lah! Not to mention TT and TCB both of whom have been politicians for 30 years.

He must use, Brylcreem or Tancho for his hair, & learn to play the Ukele & sing Majulah SINgapura, not Majulah! The SINgapore Spirit!
 
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SotongMee

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Please do not any how talk cock. This is suppose to be a non-partisan PE remember?

Even by whatever name you called it, it would be opposition votes against PAP's best PE candidate if the votes did not go to TT, TCB or TKL.

So TJS cannot publicly say he is the winner of opposition votes but statistically if someone would add up GE2011 no medal to show for opposition votes (non-WP, non-SPP) it would be clear that 25% may be representative of this group with nobody to represent them in government.

People who voted for TJS is like people who voted for TT and TCB, all on the hardcore partisan line.

The one who has the weakest partisan line was TKL, I think this man is the real clown so he deserves to lose his deposit.

TCB is the bogeyman the ghost the ultimate PAP stooge, and everybody fell for it.

Same sentiments here. TJS is implying that he is the winner of "spoilt" votes. Such inane remarks show he lacks the potential for high office. TJS is a jackass who does not realise that his words will alienate him from his own supporters.
 
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wwabbit

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Please do not any how talk cock. This is suppose to be a non-partisan PE remember?

Yes, the PE is supposed to be non-partisan, but you have to be extremely naive to believe that it will actually be non-partisan, and deluded to think that it was TJS's performance that gave him his 25% vote share. In reality, most people vote for the candidate whos ideals and political stance are similar to their own. TJS was the obvious most left-leaning candidate, so he simply gets the votes of the leftist voters.
 

Cestbon

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Now please leave TJS lose lose la.
Now more important. We all Singaporean must petition for RunOff or 2nd round for 2 best candidate TT and TCB.
Others not important anymore. Talk until next year also no use.
Pray for RunOff or suddendeath.
 

Perspective

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TJS 3-4mths political exposure & captured 25% votes. TT & TCB, both titans in the political horizon... managed 34-35% only. if TJS's performance wasnt a distinction, i dont know what is.

If Ooi Boon Ewe qualified and similarly lost deposit with 1% of the vote (which is likely the case) he should also earn a distinction for not getting zero votes because he's a clown through and through.
 

scroobal

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Bro, go thru the past GE (albeit it is not PE) and you will notice that dubious characters and virtual unknowns have got this figure. There is always a residual base for protest votes in this country. See how Chua Kim Yeow polled despite not doing shit - 41.3%
25% votes in national level is not bad results to consider for political newbies. This also help TJS to raise the profile of oppositions for GE 2016...not to forget TJS do not receive any endorsement unlike TT.
 

eQuipment

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Bro, with arguments like this, we would not have gone to the moon.

Did you ever consider that a lot of anti establishment votes were in that lot. It's called a sacrificial anode and it is one of the best political tool to corral and absorb dissent. A sacrificial anode by itself is a dud. It serves a greater purpose. Gone are the days when you use an organ grinder's monkey. Monkeys now need to be dressed in a suit and tie and with some level of starting credentials. The beauty is to pick one without he knowing it.
in the same light, there were alota blind votes for TT. surely u cant deny that there r more extreme pro PAP voters than pro Opp voters out there.
 

scroobal

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Agree on that. TT is considered a safe bet by the older generation who saw a lot of stability in the early years of PAP. He is also the anointed one by the old man. To them freedom of speech, equality etc are foreign words.
in the same light, there were alota blind votes for TT. surely u cant deny that there r more extreme pro PAP voters than pro Opp voters out there.
 

wikiphile

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Agree on that. TT is considered a safe bet by the older generation who saw a lot of stability in the early years of PAP. He is also the anointed one by the old man. To them freedom of speech, equality etc are foreign words.

Just like the concept of welfare and fairness to the PAP is as repungant as anal sex on 6 year old boys, understand this analogy may be crude but it is sound never the less
 

eQuipment

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If Ooi Boon Ewe qualified and similarly lost deposit with 1% of the vote (which is likely the case) he should also earn a distinction for not getting zero votes because he's a clown through and through.
dont be an idiot la. if all 4 candidates were of similar caliber & had equal amount of exposure... the par would be 25% respectively. however, it is not the case, and so there is significant handicap for the newbie TJS, while TKL possibly has more handicap since he was once a PAP member. TCB & TT would be the star favorites, and so have less handicap in the PE.

TT & TCB being veterans, their par would be raised to 35% each, while the par for TJS & TKL would be reduced to 12.5% & 15% respectively. (35+35+12.5+15=97.5%...2.5% buffer for spoilt votes)

final score:
TCB 34% (1% below expectation)
TT 35% (par)
TJS 25% (12.5% above expectation)
TKL 5% (10% below expectation)

if Ooi who's a total stranger & qualified, his par would be 5%, and if he managed 1% vote... he's 4% below expectation.
 
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Narong Wongwan

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Elections over liao, TT won liao. No need so many post mortem analysis.
Bottom line blame the voters who voted TT and then the other 3 candidates who did not do more to win over more voters to cast votes for them.
 
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rusty

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dont be an idiot la. if all 4 candidates were of similar caliber & had equal amount of exposure... the par would be 25% respectively. however, it is not the case, and so there is significant handicap for the newbie TJS, while TKL possibly has more handicap since he was once a PAP member. TCB & TT would be the star favorites, and so have less handicap in the PE.

TT & TCB being veterans, their par would be raised to 35% each, while the par for TJS & TKL would be reduced to 12.5% & 15% respectively. (35+35+12.5+15=97.5%...2.5% buffer for spoilt votes)

final score:
TCB 34% (1% below expectation)
TT 35% (par)
TJS 25% (12.5% above expectation)
TKL 5% (10% below expectation)

if Ooi who's a total stranger & qualified, his par would be 5%, and if he managed 1% vote... he's 4% below expectation.

What's the par value for Scroobal and how much you think he can manage?
 
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Bad New Brown

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Bro, go thru the past GE (albeit it is not PE) and you will notice that dubious characters and virtual unknowns have got this figure. There is always a residual base for protest votes in this country. See how Chua Kim Yeow polled despite not doing shit - 41.3%

Ya bro ... but this time is a 4 corners fight so I think 25% is reasonable results on national level.
 

rusty

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Ya bro ... but this time is a 4 corners fight so I think 25% is reasonable results on national level.

TJS is .04% above par. He did not fail like in any school examination with a 50% mark (par) but he failed to be at the top of the class.
 
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