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This kind of amateur game played by Gay Loong

This episode is damn damaging for pee-am.... Ask anyone on the street and they'll back Roy. Not one person I met and spoke to is in support of pee-am. I think 2016 will be a challenging time for PAP. Word on the street is that people are angry and it will show...

I agree. As it is, LHL is already not that popular. Is he so detached that he thinks he can bully a citizen? How many screw ups can a PM make before people totally give up on you? He has dug a hole for himself and I can't see him climbing out of it unscathed. His latest mis-step might just cause his beloved daddy to finally up the lorry.
 
Indeed, he (or his lawyer) has made three fundamental blunders in this episode.

First mistake was to sue someone not in politics for defamation. If he has to keep doing this, either he will be seen as spending all his time suing his own citizens or simply as a bully who prevents others from speaking unfavourably of him.

Second mistake was to ask the other party to state the amount of damages. If you yourself do not know how much damage you have suffered, how would the other party know? Especially in intangible things like reputation.

Third mistake was rejecting the proposed amount and repeating the second mistake. The other party has already offered you a sum of money as a peace offering and you should either accept it or provide the sum you are expecting. Whether or not the amount is insignificant depends on the situation of the other party, not your own circumstances. There was a story about Buddha stating that the old woman who used her entire measly savings to buy an offering for him is more sincere than the lavish offerings provided by the wealthy who can easily afford those.

These three mistakes show that he is unfit to be the leader of SG. He is now seen to be petty, stupid and greedy.

His second mistake could have turned out to be a winner and resolve his first blunder if Gay Loong knew HOW to correct his mistakes made.

In asking the other party to name the amount, many would construde that he is so maganmious, that knowingly the other party is just a commoner with little money if any, he was prepared to let the other party state the dollar value the defendent was comfortable with. Roy gave a figure, a figure of $5000 a figure that speaks not only of his sincerity but also reflected well that the figure wasn't easy on his pocket given his means. And had the Gaylord accepted this he could also have in kind gesture ask Roy to reciprocate in removing the 4 blog posts and vid without making it a demand. Which I am sure Roy would have done so willingly.Win-Win. Gaylord wins on both counts.
Case closed. Reputation restored. Votes percentage go up.


Then the Gaylord not only reject this outright but became more petty and went on a witch hunt for 4 more blog posts and vid to be removed. Posts that wasn't even an issue months ago.

All points to a man ( is he a man?) on a path of vengence and out for blood, given his status that he so claimed that cannot be befitted to a man of such status.

Mine oh mine what a blunder and PR disaster. Pinky Loong destroyed his own reputation way before he intended to fight it out in Court to protect it!
 
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agree he is putting a horse before the cart.

If he cannot name a price show he cannot prove his points of where the damages are?

It is ask a prostitute she is worth only $1, she said $1 is for soh lumpar only. wah, so lumpar for $1 is expensive.

Offer the pros $2 she said $2 is for moh ka chng only. Still expensive $2 moh kah chng not worth it?

So how much does the pros wants? She will name $1 for soh lump par, $2 for moh kah chng, $3 for moh lancheow tau but there is a package deal $30 for every thing.

So what is the package deal LHL wants?

So we ask what's in the package deal like?

Vivian B is very good at this type of stuff - especially on whether you want compensation for eating at hawker centre, normal restaurant or high class one in Sentosa. He should be consulted.
 
This episode is damn damaging for pee-am.... Ask anyone on the street and they'll back Roy. Not one person I met and spoke to is in support of pee-am. I think 2016 will be a challenging time for PAP. Word on the street is that people are angry and it will show...

Even before the Roy incident, I'm amazed that anyone would support Lee Hsien Loong. He's hands down the worst PM Singapore has had the misfortune of being run by. Look around you: everything is falling apart, too many foreigners and much overcrowding, skyrocketing cost of living. Corruption and dishonesty rampant in the public sector.

Even on the front of diplomacy and international relations, he has been annoying many countries.

All you PAP porlumpars had better wake up before it is too late. Especially those residing in AMK.
 
This episode is damn damaging for pee-am.... Ask anyone on the street and they'll back Roy. Not one person I met and spoke to is in support of pee-am. I think 2016 will be a challenging time for PAP. Word on the street is that people are angry and it will show...

2016 will be no difference from the past GE....

And this gutsy but pathetic Roy Ngerng will be the next Chee Soo Juan.... Yes, maybe you're right that many are supporting Roy for his plight but what can they do apart from sitting aside as if in a cinema to watch a movie....

So many hidden heroes in this forum but who dare to show support openly to Roy and go to court to curse and swear at LHL????

Just like Chee Soo Juan, when he made some accusation back then during GE, those so-called opposition supported him but in the end what happened to him and those so-called opposition supporters were no where to be seen to help him.... Roy Ngerng will just be the next Chee!!!

Singaporeans tends to forget... If Roy loses the case and have to bear the consequences, who will be there to help him??? NO ONE!!! And in time to come, people will forget who's Roy Ngerng
 
2016 will be no difference from the past GE....

And this gutsy but pathetic Roy Ngerng will be the next Chee Soo Juan.... Yes, maybe you're right that many are supporting Roy for his plight but what can they do apart from sitting aside as if in a cinema to watch a movie....

So many hidden heroes in this forum but who dare to show support openly to Roy and go to court to curse and swear at LHL????

Just like Chee Soo Juan, when he made some accusation back then during GE, those so-called opposition supported him but in the end what happened to him and those so-called opposition supporters were no where to be seen to help him.... Roy Ngerng will just be the next Chee!!!

Singaporeans tends to forget... If Roy loses the case and have to bear the consequences, who will be there to help him??? NO ONE!!! And in time to come, people will forget who's Roy Ngerng

Your Master already have one foot in a bucket of shit already and the Bayi just brought another bucket for his the other foot.

Guess who is going to empty the 2 buckets of shits when your Gay Loong steps out of it.

The bayi who brought the second bucket?

No. It's low life like you that are assigned shit clearing duties.

But by then, I am not so sure whether your Master can still afford to pay you for the job or you could be doing pro bono, cos you ARE all shit up anyway. LoLoLOLoL
 
His second mistake could have turned out to be a winner and resolve his first blunder if Gay Loong knew HOW to correct his mistakes made.

In asking the other party to name the amount, many would construde that he is so maganmious, that knowingly the other party is just a commoner with little money if any, he was prepared to let the other party state the dollar value the defendent was comfortable with. Roy gave a figure, a figure of $5000 a figure that speaks not only of his sincerity but also reflected well that the figure wasn't easy on his pocket given his means. And had the Gaylord accepted this he could also have in kind gesture ask Roy to reciprocate in removing the 4 blog posts and vid without making it a demand. Which I am sure Roy would have done so willingly.Win-Win. Gaylord wins on both counts.
Case closed. Reputation restored. Votes percentage go up.


Then the Gaylord not only reject this outright but became more petty and went on a witch hunt for 4 more blog posts and vid to be removed. Posts that wasn't even an issue months ago.

All points to a man ( is he a man?) on a path of vengence and out for blood, given his status that he so claimed that cannot be befitted to a man of such status.

Mine oh mine what a blunder and PR disaster. Pinky Loong destroyed his own reputation way before he intended to fight it out in Court to protect it!

>>> Indeed heaven has eyes to let the world see the kind of a calculative, vindictive creature it really is despite all the hypocritical sweet talking! The ball is now back to the court of the 60% to decide what to do in GE2015/16. And these 60% has an excellent track record of signing blank cheques as soon as they feel uncomfortable of not being screwed.
 
Yes, but his father named the price. $1 million against JB if i recall the figure correctly. Why he can't name the price?

JBJ said that the singapore kangaroo judges were beholdened to Lee Con You. And con you sued him. When such a statement is made, a fair proportion of the population believes this, even i do. We know this to be true. But it can be claimed that since a fair number of people believed JBJ, than con you suffered some damage to his reputation.

In this case, the assertion is that gay loong personally stole CPF money. Nobody believes this. People can see their CPF balance and they know the money is still there and has not be stolen. So, what damaged reputation has gay loong suffered? None. hence he cannot prove damages and he asked Roy to name his own damage. That's legally unprecedented as far as I know.

Is the parallel wrong ? CHC buys bonds from company X knowing company X uses the funds to invest. CPF buys bonds from SG Government and Government uses funds to invest. Of course whether company X and CHC have a legitimate business arrangement or not, given that CHC is a charity, is a matter before the courts. There is no question that what the CPF is doing is perfectly legal. But they are both using the same mechanism. Frankly I don't see what the fuss is. I have not read Roy's post. But if he is saying that CPF members are entitled to higher returns, he is not the only one.
Actually, there is a difference, I haven't seen an outpouring of CHC members complaining they have been shortchanged. Most say , "well we gave you the money to do as you see fit". Funny right ?
 
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