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http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/arctic-temperatures-warmth-1.3910765

The Arctic continues to run a fever.

On Thursday, the temperature there was almost 30 C warmer than average, and it continued into Friday morning. Ocean buoys recorded temperatures near the North Pole of 0 C or warmer. That's right: It's warmer in the Arctic than it is in Thunder Bay, Ont.

This isn't an isolated event. Arctic temperatures have been unusually warm for the past few months, though perhaps not quite as dramatically different as we're seeing now.

In November, the region was 20 C warmer than average.

"The temperatures there of the atmosphere are on … any given day, like 20 C warmer than they should be for this time of year," Jennifer Francis, a marine and coastal sciences research professor at Rutgers University in New Jersey, told CBC News at the time.

"The ocean temperatures there are also warmer than they should be. I'm really, really worried, and I think everyone should be."

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Ted Scambos, lead scientist at the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center, told CBC News the warming is a sign that climate change is happening and is part of a changing world.

And as it warms, older ice melts, leaving thin ice in its wake. This allows the ice to melt faster.

In fact, models — which Scambos says are "fairly generous" — anticipate an ice-free Arctic by the 2050s or 2060s, though it could happen sooner.

"There's an inertia to the climate system," Scambos said. "We still are not seeing the world we're in for."

David Phillips, senior climatologist with Environment and Climate Change Canada , said that instead of the air flow moving west to east, as it typically does, patterns are changing. Now there is more of a north-south interaction where warm air moves up from the south. However, the northern air can also dip further down, as we saw the past two weeks with unusually cold temperatures across the country. The change in air flow can cause the wild swings we are seeing more often.

In this case, warm air over Greenland and Norway is being pulled up to the Arctic, causing the unusual weather.

There was a similar event last winter, said Jim Overland, an oceanographer with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). At the time they thought it was just a strange occurrence, but with a second one in just a year, it's left them wondering if this is what they can expect more often.

As for how long this will last, it's anyone's guess.

"It's not inconceivable that it could last another couple of months or the chaos that exists will wipe out the pattern in a week or so. We don't know which one. We think, though, long-term that we're loading the dice in terms of these warm and cold events."

Canada's North

Though it's far warmer than average, it's still cold.

"It's not like we're seeing Miami of the North up there: it's still dark, it's still cold by southern standards," Phillips said.

Fortunately for Canada, that big warmth hasn't made it too far south. As of Friday morning it was still –21 C in Iqaluit and –33 C in Yellowknife.

Still, the Arctic is the fastest-warming place on the planet. And what's troubling is the effects the warming Arctic is having on the people who live there, Phillips said.

"It's affecting life there: they can't fish or hunt like they did; buildings are falling apart; windows don't fit in frames any more. It's all because the environment is changing. And of course, they're not the ones who caused it. In a way, they're the first victims of it.

"Southerners think it's just about whether we're going to have a white Christmas and skinny polar bears. But for northern people, it's a life or death situation."

Such anomalies will eventually have consequences for everyone else across the country, Phillips anticipates.

"What happens in the Arctic doesn't stay in the Arctic."
 
Nobody said global warming is not real. The real hoax is that idiots want to put the blame solely on CO2 which is not real.

There are times when CO2 is a lot higher than now but the world was experiencing ice age and cooling down.

The world experienced climate change many times and it's like a cycle that stretches over millions of years. It could be the Sun's black spots, Sun's activity or distance between the Sun and Earth as earth go around the Sun not in constant distant. To put all the blame on CO2 is ridiculous and it is only politically and financially motivated by politicians for power play.

Having this CO2 narrative by politicians block real science in finding out the real causes. This is what Climate change hoax is all about.
 
This is what I mean by putting "
all the blame on CO2 is ridiculous and it is only politically and financially motivated by politicians for power play.

Having this CO2 narrative by politicians block real science in finding out the real causes. This is what Climate change hoax is all about.

Congress: Obama Admin Fired Top Scientist to Advance Climate Change Plans
http://freebeacon.com/politics/cong...d-top-scientist-advance-climate-change-plans/

Investigation claims Obama admin retaliated against scientists, politicized DoE

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BY: Adam Kredo
December 20, 2016 3:00 pm

A new congressional investigation has determined that the Obama administration fired a top scientist and intimidated staff at the Department of Energy in order to further its climate change agenda, according to a new report that alleges the administration ordered top officials to obstruct Congress in order to forward this agenda.

Rep. Lamar Smith (R., Texas), chair of the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, released a wide-ranging report on Tuesday that shows how senior Obama administration officials retaliated against a leading scientist and plotted ways to block a congressional inquiry surrounding key research into the impact of radiation.

A top DoE scientist who liaised with Congress on the matter was fired by the Obama administration for being too forthright with lawmakers, according to the report, which provides an in-depth look at the White House’s efforts to ensure senior staffers toe the administration’s line.

The report also provides evidence that the Obama administration worked to kill legislation in order to ensure that it could receive full funding for its own hotly contested climate change agenda.

The report additionally discovered efforts by the Obama administration to censor the information given to Congress, interfering with the body’s ability to perform critical oversight work.

“Instead of providing the type of scientific information needed by Congress to legislate effectively, senior departmental officials sought to hide information, lobbied against legislation, and retaliated against a scientist for being forthcoming,” Smith said in a statement. “In this staff report based on lengthy record before the committee, much has been revealed about how senior level agency officials under the Obama administration retaliated against a scientist who did not follow the party line.”

“Moving forward, the department needs to overhaul its management practices to ensure that Congress is provided the information it requires to legislate and that federal employees and scientists who provide that information do so without fear of retribution,” Smith said.

The report goes into Congress’ efforts to regulate the Low Dose Radiation Research Program, or LDRRP, which sought to test the impact of radiation on human beings. The program, started in the 1990s, was meant to support research into waste cleanup and the impact of nuclear weapons.

In mid-2014, lawmakers introduced legislation, the Low Dose Radiation Act of 2014, to help regulate the program and minimize harmful side effects.

During an October 2014 briefing with senior DoE staff on the matter, lawmakers heard testimony from Dr. Noelle Metting, the radiation research program’s manager.

Less than a month later, lawmakers discovered that Obama administration officials had “removed Dr. Metting from federal service for allegedly providing too much information in response to questions posed by” Congress during the briefing, the report states.

Congressional investigators later determined that the administration’s “actions to remove Dr. Metting were, in part, retaliation against Dr. Metting because she refused to conform to the predetermined remarks and talking points designed by Management to undermine the advancement of” the 2014 radiation act.

Emails unearthed during the investigation “show a sequence of events leading to a premeditated scheme by senior DoE employees ‘to squash the prospects of Senate support'” for the radiation act, a move that lawmakers claim was meant to help advance President Obama’s own climate change goals.

“The committee has learned that one of DoE’s stated purposes for Dr. Metting’s removal from federal service was her failure to confine the discussion at the briefing to pre-approved talking points,” according to the report. “The committee has also established that DoE management … failed to exercise even a minimal standard of care to avoid chilling other agency scientists as a result of the retaliation against Dr. Metting for her refusal to censor information from Congress.”

The investigation concluded that “DoE placed its own priorities to further the president’s Climate Action Plan before its constitutional obligations to be candid with Congress,” the report states. “The DoE’s actions constitute a reckless and calculated attack on the legislative process itself, which undermines the power of Congress to legislate. The committee further concludes that DoE’s disregard for separation of powers is not limited to a small group of employees, but rather is an institutional problem that must be corrected by overhauling its management practices with respect to its relationship with the Congress.”

These moves by the administration were part of an effort to secure full funding for the president’s climate change agenda, the report claims.

“Instead of working to understand the value of the LDRRP for emergency situations, DoE Management engaged in a campaign to terminate research programs that could divert funds from the president’s Climate Action Plan,” the report states.

Congress is recommending a full overhaul of the DoE’s management structure in order to ensure this type of situation does not occur again.
 
if polar ice melts, ships will sail between east and west through the arctic ocean,bypassing singapore and straits of malacca. Another 20 or 30 years of prosperity left. Leave early if you can because our weather will be unbearably hot and very humid.like the days of the dinosaurs.
 
There is no global warming, but there may be global cooling. :D
 
Nobody said global warming is not real. The real hoax is that idiots want to put the blame solely on CO2 which is not real.

Aiyoh, lots of your buddies in the right-wing legion do NOT believe in global warming. Even Trump's people. Stop backtracking.

There are times when CO2 is a lot higher than now but the world was experiencing ice age and cooling down.
If you bother to learn abit, you won't sound like an idiot, Devil!

The world experienced climate change many times and it's like a cycle that stretches over millions of years. It could be the Sun's black spots, Sun's activity or distance between the Sun and Earth as earth go around the Sun not in constant distant. To put all the blame on CO2 is ridiculous and it is only politically and financially motivated by politicians for power play.
Your point? Do nothing. Pretend that the human race cannot do anything. So, let's burn more fossil fuel.
And let your kids' generation clean up the mess caused by you.

Having this CO2 narrative by politicians block real science in finding out the real causes. This is what Climate change hoax is all about.
Yes, I forgot ...anything mainstream is fake ...only right-wing sites tell the truth.
 
This is what I mean by putting "

Congress: Obama Admin Fired Top Scientist to Advance Climate Change Plans
http://freebeacon.com/politics/cong...d-top-scientist-advance-climate-change-plans/

Investigation claims Obama admin retaliated against scientists, politicized DoE

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Barack ObamaAP
BY: Adam Kredo
December 20, 2016 3:00 pm

A new congressional investigation has determined that the Obama administration fired a top scientist and intimidated staff at the Department of Energy in order to further its climate change agenda, according to a new report that alleges the administration ordered top officials to obstruct Congress in order to forward this agenda.

Rep. Lamar Smith (R., Texas), chair of the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, released a wide-ranging report on Tuesday that shows how senior Obama administration officials retaliated against a leading scientist and plotted ways to block a congressional inquiry surrounding key research into the impact of radiation.

A top DoE scientist who liaised with Congress on the matter was fired by the Obama administration for being too forthright with lawmakers, according to the report, which provides an in-depth look at the White House’s efforts to ensure senior staffers toe the administration’s line.

The report also provides evidence that the Obama administration worked to kill legislation in order to ensure that it could receive full funding for its own hotly contested climate change agenda.

The report additionally discovered efforts by the Obama administration to censor the information given to Congress, interfering with the body’s ability to perform critical oversight work.

“Instead of providing the type of scientific information needed by Congress to legislate effectively, senior departmental officials sought to hide information, lobbied against legislation, and retaliated against a scientist for being forthcoming,” Smith said in a statement. “In this staff report based on lengthy record before the committee, much has been revealed about how senior level agency officials under the Obama administration retaliated against a scientist who did not follow the party line.”

“Moving forward, the department needs to overhaul its management practices to ensure that Congress is provided the information it requires to legislate and that federal employees and scientists who provide that information do so without fear of retribution,” Smith said.

The report goes into Congress’ efforts to regulate the Low Dose Radiation Research Program, or LDRRP, which sought to test the impact of radiation on human beings. The program, started in the 1990s, was meant to support research into waste cleanup and the impact of nuclear weapons.

In mid-2014, lawmakers introduced legislation, the Low Dose Radiation Act of 2014, to help regulate the program and minimize harmful side effects.

During an October 2014 briefing with senior DoE staff on the matter, lawmakers heard testimony from Dr. Noelle Metting, the radiation research program’s manager.

Less than a month later, lawmakers discovered that Obama administration officials had “removed Dr. Metting from federal service for allegedly providing too much information in response to questions posed by” Congress during the briefing, the report states.

Congressional investigators later determined that the administration’s “actions to remove Dr. Metting were, in part, retaliation against Dr. Metting because she refused to conform to the predetermined remarks and talking points designed by Management to undermine the advancement of” the 2014 radiation act.

Emails unearthed during the investigation “show a sequence of events leading to a premeditated scheme by senior DoE employees ‘to squash the prospects of Senate support'” for the radiation act, a move that lawmakers claim was meant to help advance President Obama’s own climate change goals.

“The committee has learned that one of DoE’s stated purposes for Dr. Metting’s removal from federal service was her failure to confine the discussion at the briefing to pre-approved talking points,” according to the report. “The committee has also established that DoE management … failed to exercise even a minimal standard of care to avoid chilling other agency scientists as a result of the retaliation against Dr. Metting for her refusal to censor information from Congress.”

The investigation concluded that “DoE placed its own priorities to further the president’s Climate Action Plan before its constitutional obligations to be candid with Congress,” the report states. “The DoE’s actions constitute a reckless and calculated attack on the legislative process itself, which undermines the power of Congress to legislate. The committee further concludes that DoE’s disregard for separation of powers is not limited to a small group of employees, but rather is an institutional problem that must be corrected by overhauling its management practices with respect to its relationship with the Congress.”

These moves by the administration were part of an effort to secure full funding for the president’s climate change agenda, the report claims.

“Instead of working to understand the value of the LDRRP for emergency situations, DoE Management engaged in a campaign to terminate research programs that could divert funds from the president’s Climate Action Plan,” the report states.

Congress is recommending a full overhaul of the DoE’s management structure in order to ensure this type of situation does not occur again.

I can bet you that this is distorted news. It is from a right-wing site. Right-wingers lie all the time.
 
Did the artic warming mumbo jumbo cause parts of our lovely island to flood today?
 
Don't worry! It's all predicted by Kryon of Magnetic Service back in 2011.

http://www.kryon.com/k_channel11_gaithersburg.html

Let's talk about the weather. We retreat to exactly what we told you before in this very chair. The water cycle is a cooling cycle, not a heating cycle. You're going to have more severe winters and storms. It's going to get colder. But it gets warmer before it gets colder. That is the cycle, and it has always been the cycle. You can see it in the rings of the trees and the cores of the ice. Don't let your scientists pull the political wool over your eyes for their own purposes. Start seeing these things for what they are. It's a recurring cycle based on four Earth alignment attributes, including the wobble (the precession). You're in this cycle. Prepare.

The beginnings of it will be with you from now at least until the end of the 2012 36-year window, and you can watch it work. The first thing that happens is that the ice melts at the poles, but not completely. It's the way it has happened before. As the redistribution of weight from the poles to the oceans of the earth takes place, the weight is redistributed to the crust, and that creates earthquakes. And the earthquakes that will be the most powerful are the ones that are closest to the poles. We told you that some time ago. So it's not a mystery that suddenly you have some of the most powerful earthquakes that you've ever had. Not only that, but a cooling ocean creates larger storms.
 
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