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Chitchat The stationary flat Earth

Do you think the Earth is flat and stationary?

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flatearther

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I am not sure what you mean but you can't hide them. These cell towers need to be placed on top of buildings everywhere to have good coverage.
satellite phones have higher transmit power and longer antennas than terrestrial cell phones because the signal has to reach one or few satellites out in space.....
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moreover, out on a ship in the middle of an ocean, the sat phone with cellular capability cannot reach a cell on the nearest coast....
Have you considered the possibility that all these "satellite" phones on ships could actually be very high-tech mobile:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_towers
communicating with one another in the middle of the ocean, like very high-tech:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkie-talkies
without needing their signals to reach any land-based cell tower, let alone "one or few satellites out in space"? :wink:


talk to any modern sailor and navigator, although all they see is seemingly "flat" ocean, they will unequivocally tell you the earth is round as they see it with virtual vision from their eyes and instruments.
If those particular "modern" sailors and navigators trust their so-called "virtual vision", then they are simply delusional, I'm afraid. :o


what is obvious to the eyes can be entirely misleading.
[video=youtube;m-p21QyTVn4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-p21QyTVn4[/video]

[video=youtube;qcgxBTrmIhU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcgxBTrmIhU[/video]
 

flatearther

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Beautiful satellite launch. Why the satellite don't fall from the sky but goes into orbit upon successful launch? Becos the earth is a sphere.
That video is less than two minutes long, right? :wink:

Unlike these famous videos of:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster
that occurred on January 28, 1986:

[video=youtube;j4JOjcDFtBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4JOjcDFtBE[/video]

[video=youtube;vd7dxmBLg48]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd7dxmBLg48[/video]

[video=youtube;fSTrmJtHLFU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSTrmJtHLFU[/video]

Yes, I'm implying that there's been a MASSIVE cover-up of all subsequent launches, lasting for thirty years until now! :eek:
 
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flatearther

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Our dear TS is trying to convince you that the satellites can still orbit around a "you zar kueh"-like planet! Bwahahahahahahaa...
No, I'm not! :wink:
I'm trying to convince her that "satellites in the sky/space" don't exist! :wink:

The Earth is flat and stationary, but it's not a "planet":

[video=youtube;UqVsA5wOjTw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVsA5wOjTw[/video]

It's a:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Plane_(geometry)
 
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ginfreely

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why must be a sphere ?
can it goes round in a circle ?

What talking you? You mean the earth is flat and the satellite is flying on top going round in circle above the flat earth? That shows that you don't understand the meaning of orbit. An object in orbit is an object in free fall. The earlier article i quoted on this already explained it. You look at the satellite launch video, the rocket lift off vertical upwards then on a trajectory path is like the firing of the cannon ball mentioned in the article. So if the earth is flat, the satellite due to the free fall will touch the earth. But due to curvature of earth as it is a sphere, the satellite move horizontal with a drop in height due to free fall that will be compensated by the curvature of the earth and the satellite thus remain in orbit around the earth and won't touch the earth.

http://www.answers.com/Q/Why_are_objects_in_orbit_are_in_free_fall_and_appear_to_be_weightless

"When a satellite is put into orbit the engines give it a sideways boost then turn off. If Earth's gravity were not there it would move along that sideways direction and fly off into space. But gravity is there and pulls it down as it also moves sideways, so its in "freefall" . Since the Earth is a sphere the ground curves away faster then the satellite drops so it makes an orbit. Now everything on the satellite is in freefall exactly the same. So if you were standing on the satellite its surface would not push up on you (like the ground does on earth) because you and the satellite are both falling together. "
 

ginfreely

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How do satellites stay in orbit?

https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...tay-in-orbit-free-fall-or-centripetal.114962/

here's another thought (derived from Newton): think of a planet without an atmosphere and with a tall mountain in which an astronaut has a high powered rifle and shoots a bullet horizontally. gravity acts on the bullet and it starts to descend outlining a curved trajectory. if the muzzle velocity was just the right speed, the curvature of that initial trajectory would be the same as the curvature of the planet at that elevation. so the bullet would be "dropping", but the ground underneath it would be "dropping out" underneath the bullet at the same rate (due to the roundness of the planet) therefore the bullet would maintain the same elevation above the mean elevation of the planet's surface.
 
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ginfreely

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High tech walkie talkie without satellites and without land based towers? How? Use what equipment then? I only know ships have radio besides satellite communications.

Have you considered the possibility that all these "satellite" phones on ships could actually be very high-tech mobile:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_towers
communicating with one another in the middle of the ocean, like very high-tech:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkie-talkies
without needing their signals to reach any land-based cell tower, let alone "one or few satellites out in space"? :wink:



If those particular "modern" sailors and navigators trust their so-called "virtual vision", then they are simply delusional, I'm afraid. :o



[video=youtube;m-p21QyTVn4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-p21QyTVn4[/video]

[video=youtube;qcgxBTrmIhU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcgxBTrmIhU[/video]
 

ginfreely

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The explosion occurred slightly after one minute too for challenger. I saw some rockets even exploded at lift off stage. So the two minute video for this satellite launch is long enough. And the proof is in the pudding by using the signal received for communication services.

That video is less than two minutes long, right? :wink:

Unlike these famous videos of:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster
that occurred on January 28, 1986:

[video=youtube;j4JOjcDFtBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4JOjcDFtBE[/video]

[video=youtube;vd7dxmBLg48]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd7dxmBLg48[/video]

[video=youtube;fSTrmJtHLFU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSTrmJtHLFU[/video]

Yes, I'm implying that there's been a MASSIVE cover-up of all subsequent launches, lasting for thirty years until now! :eek:
 

ginfreely

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No, I'm not! :wink:
I'm trying to convince her that "satellites in the sky/space" don't exist! :wink:

The Earth is flat and stationary, but it's not a "planet":

[video=youtube;UqVsA5wOjTw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVsA5wOjTw[/video]

It's a:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Plane_(geometry)

Becos the existence of satellites in orbit is solid proof the earth is round and spinning. Not flat and stationary. That's why you have to insist satellites don't exist even when there are so many satellites in existence already proven by the signals received.
 
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eatshitndie

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qY7W3EMfrgc

He's trying to prove that it's the roosters' crow that brings up the sun lah... Teehee...

it's colo-rectal muscle contraction that causes my shit to move but it's gravity that's pulling it down. otherwise without gravity the shit may worm its way back upwards to the esophageal "valve" where valve will ask for entry tickets. no wonder shit is still stuck inside their gi tracts among flatearthers. gravity is proof of the newtonian and einsteinian models of the universe.
 

Ed Chigliak

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Flatearther -


There have been several forummers here who have spent considerable time, explaining the basics of satellite technology.
They have put forth simple, layman explaination of the fundamental operations and workings of a satellite. And it really helped as these people actually worked in that environment...they spoke from experience and not ignorance.

A fine gentleman (me), even actually took his time out to lead you in the right path and suggested you visit the NTU Satellite research centre. A man of your beliefs would at least make an effort to visit this institution of learnings and research, and get real time and visual information. Put your own beliefs and theories to a test. Challenge your beliefs. But you chose the option of safety in your armchair and being in the most advanced intellectual forum for discourse (i.e Sammyboy Forum). If Sammyboy forum existed couple of centuries ago and Isaac Newton (bless his soul) was a member, I doubt he would be remembered for studies into Laws of motion and Universal gravitation. He would probably be remembered for these inspiring words which Singaporeans so dearly hold to their hearts: "Guess what race, har?"

I am thinking out of the box. You might want to also inquire from these mob. They have high powered telescopic equipment. Who knows what they can see out there. ;-)

https://www.astro.com.sg/astro/gene...5868KK3ZAVs24Do&catno=60022&crc=79898777/#The Observatory at the Singapore Science Centre











No, I'm not! :wink:
I'm trying to convince her that "satellites in the sky/space" don't exist! :wink:

The Earth is flat and stationary, but it's not a "planet":

[video=youtube;UqVsA5wOjTw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVsA5wOjTw[/video]

It's a:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Plane_(geometry)
 

PretenderSam

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What talking you? You mean the earth is flat and the satellite is flying on top going round in circle above the flat earth? That shows that you don't understand the meaning of orbit. An object in orbit is an object in free fall. The earlier article i quoted on this already explained it........

"When a satellite is put into orbit the engines give it a sideways boost then turn off. If Earth's gravity were not there it would move along that sideways direction and fly off into space. But gravity is there and pulls it down as it also moves sideways, so its in "freefall" . Since the Earth is a sphere the ground curves .................."

is this force of gravity the same everywhere on earth ?
if YES , then it is puzzling. The people , ocean and whatever are right way up at the northern part. At the southern part everything
is upside down. When things are upside down they tend to fall downwards. So don't you need to have a stronger gravity to pull
them back.

if NO , force of gravity is not the same at the north and south. This is equally puzzling too. It would be the case of you having
different weight if you measure it in england and in australia.

so what's your answer ?
 

flatearther

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Flatearther -


There have been several forummers here who have spent considerable time, explaining the basics of satellite technology.
They have put forth simple, layman explaination of the fundamental operations and workings of a satellite. And it really helped as these people actually worked in that environment...they spoke from experience and not ignorance.
I agree that they are both experienced and knowledgeable. :smile:
Unfortunately, they are not wise. :(
Hence, despite all their experience and knowledge, they end up believing in a lie, simply because they like (or are even addicted to) that lie and, therefore, want it to be "true".

The "satellite" communications environment they are working in is simply a very high-tech ground-based and atmosphere-based communications environment.


A fine gentleman (me),
I was under the impression that a true gentleman would be humble enough to refrain from praising himself, right? :wink:


even actually took his time out to lead you in the right path
The "right" path? :p


and suggested you visit the NTU Satellite research centre.
Thanks again for your suggestion, but although you think it's a "good" idea, I beg to differ (and I obviously have my reasons and better things to do). :wink:


A man of your beliefs would at least make an effort to visit this institution of learnings and research, and get real time and visual information. Put your own beliefs and theories to a test. Challenge your beliefs.
Once again, you are mistaking my convictions for "beliefs"; like I said to you before:
If you seriously belief in your convictions (which you have shown) and to reinforce your theory/assumptions, what better way than to get in touch with those people and understand their level of knowledge. You don’t even have to visit NASA. Put those NTU researchers to the test with your assumptions and get them to prove their theories to you. Hey…I am pretty sure, they will also show you real photos of their own satellites up in space (you don’t need to depend on NASA to provide you with “doctored” pics).

If you do not want to do that, hey…no problems too.
Yes, I have zero desire to waste my time and energy hearing and seeing in person the same old lies (including "real photos of their own satellites up in space") and delusional "scientific" reasoning that I've heard and read and seen through the internet (including those in this thread :wink:), therefore you are right that there should be no problems for both of us. :wink:

Also, my convictions (not "assumptions") are at a level (like a full glass of water) where there is no longer any need for any "reinforcement" (unlike when I first discovered last year that the Earth has always been flat).
Convictions are not the same as beliefs/assumptions.
I do not "believe/assume" that one plus one equals two.
I am convinced (i.e. know for sure) that one plus one equals two.


But you chose the option of safety in your armchair and being in the most advanced intellectual forum for discourse (i.e Sammyboy Forum).
"Safety"? :confused:
Once again, like I said to you before:
Just stick to your own convictions and be prepared to be taken to task.
That's why I dared to start this thread, right? :wink:

But seriously, I just felt like sharing my discovery, and I was also curious to see if anyone agrees.
If nobody agrees (which is what I was initially expecting), I would not mind at all, simply because that's what I was expecting.
Which is why I'm surprised that quite a few agree! :eek:
Then again, maybe they were all just being sarcastic, which I also don't mind. :p


I am thinking out of the box.
Maybe you're really trying to think out of the box.
But in my opinion, you're still stuck (or at least partially stuck) in that box because you're reluctant to leave that box. :wink:

Like most people, I also used to think that the Earth is a spinning globe, revolving around the Sun, and with satellites orbiting, etc.
But after seeing so much evidence, and because my mind was open, I became convinced that the Earth has always been stationary and flat until now. :smile:


You might want to also inquire from these mob. They have high powered telescopic equipment. Who knows what they can see out there. ;-)

https://www.astro.com.sg/astro/gene...5868KK3ZAVs24Do&catno=60022&crc=79898777/#The Observatory at the Singapore Science Centre
Probably more stars (:*:smile:! :p
Just like what I said to you less than two days ago:
There is a huge following of Space enthusiasts around the world who enjoy satellite watching.
Don't you mean a huge following of delusional people, fantasizing about watching "satellites", but end up literally seeing stars (:*:smile: instead? :p
 

flatearther

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How do satellites stay in orbit?

https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...tay-in-orbit-free-fall-or-centripetal.114962/

here's another thought (derived from Newton): think of a planet without an atmosphere and with a tall mountain in which an astronaut has a high powered rifle and shoots a bullet horizontally. gravity acts on the bullet and it starts to descend outlining a curved trajectory. if the muzzle velocity was just the right speed, the curvature of that initial trajectory would be the same as the curvature of the planet at that elevation. so the bullet would be "dropping", but the ground underneath it would be "dropping out" underneath the bullet at the same rate (due to the roundness of the planet) therefore the bullet would maintain the same elevation above the mean elevation of the planet's surface.
gravity is proof of the newtonian and einsteinian models of the universe.
I would say that "gravity" and "relativity" were concocted by those "scientists" in order to help them "prove" their own imagination of the universe. :wink:

[video=youtube;4J18e30zTyE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J18e30zTyE[/video]

[video=youtube;EdBeobHx8YE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdBeobHx8YE[/video]
 

flatearther

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it's colo-rectal muscle contraction that causes my shit to move but it's gravity that's pulling it down. otherwise without gravity the shit may worm its way back upwards to the esophageal "valve" where valve will ask for entry tickets.
Like I said before, and as mentioned in some of the videos I've posted, it's density:
Without gravity, why am I not flying already?
Simple density: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Density
not "gravity". :wink:


no wonder shit is still stuck inside their gi tracts among flatearthers.
But if flatearthers and globeearthers are still living together on Earth, "gravity" should still affect both, right? :p
 
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