The Religion of 'peace'

[JohnTan]

Ah Hock is another example though hes not a sinkie but a cina xtian. Dont know abt Islam yet arrogant and teach the Muslims how to read the Quran. Chey!

At least Ah Hock doesn't go around telling lies. It is a fact that he was jailed on fabricated charges of blasphemy. Why do muslims enjoy going around falsely accusing non-muslims of blasphemy charges?

 

[whoami]

At least Ah Hock doesn't go around telling lies. It is a fact that he was jailed on fabricated charges of blasphemy. Why do muslims enjoy going around falsely accusing non-muslims of blasphemy charges?

Ah Hock kaka kau punya lelaki ya?

 

[syed putra]

At least Ah Hock doesn't go around telling lies. It is a fact that he was jailed on fabricated charges of blasphemy. Why do muslims enjoy going around falsely accusing non-muslims of blasphemy charges?

Ah hock was betrayed by his wife who wanted him "in". There us no such thing as blasphemy laws.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

At least Ah Hock doesn't go around telling lies. It is a fact that he was jailed on fabricated charges of blasphemy. Why do muslims enjoy going around falsely accusing non-muslims of blasphemy charges?

It's a political thing. If these Mudslimes don't use such excuses. How to get rid of ah hock?

 

[whoami]

It's a political thing.

For once u telling the truth.

 

[zeebjii]

It's a political thing. If these Mudslimes don't use such excuses. How to get rid of ah hock?

If he is so thick that he couldn't see what kind of mess he's getting himself into, then he is not fit to be a political leader!

He deserved everthing he got, including the green hat! LOL He must have thought that he was his god's chosen one to lead the muslims! Fucking STUPID!

 

[syed putra]

It's a political thing. If these Mudslimes don't use such excuses. How to get rid of ah hock?

PAP used the same thing by spreading malays from their malay majority areas into hdb flats based on quota thus denying them a voice in parluament.

 

[garlic]

Religion of Piss

 

[Hypocrite-The]

PAP used the same thing by spreading malays from their malay majority areas into hdb flats based on quota thus denying them a voice in parluament.

There are alot of minority MPs in parleement n with GRC useless minority MPs r guaranteed a seat too. So they have a voice in parleement.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

If he is so thick that he couldn't see what kind of mess he's getting himself into, then he is not fit to be a political leader!

He deserved everthing he got, including the green hat! LOL He must have thought that he was his god's chosen one to lead the muslims! Fucking STUPID!

That just means Islam is a religion that has no respect for others. If a Mudslime can lord over a non mudslimes. Why not vice versa? Why only in Islam do they demand rights above others. ?

 

[Hypocrite-The]

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Female circumcision: Culture and religion in Malaysia see millions of girls undergo cut
BY ERWIN RENALDI
UPDATED ABOUT 3 HOURS AGO
A photo of a woman smiling to camera
PHOTO Fa Abdul started questioning the female circumcision practice when she was 30 years old
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Fa Abdul was nine years old when she found out she had been circumcised when she was just a baby.

Key Points
A 2012 study found 93 per cent of Muslim women in Malaysia have been circumcised
Female circumcision is not prescribed in the Koran or Hadiths, women's advocates say
One mother says Malaysia's culture and society "expected us to do it"
She was among the millions of girls across Malaysia whose families believe that female circumcision protects young girls from committing "sins".

"Many Muslims in Malaysia will tell you that circumcision will protect girls from growing up and becoming wild," Ms Abdul said.

Ms Abdul spoke to the ABC about her experience after a new documentary — titled The Hidden Cut — was released last week.

Chen Yih Wen, a senior producer from the group behind the documentary R.AGE, said the team started making the documentary after Malaysia was criticised at a United Nations forum in February.

The UN's Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, held in Switzerland, slammed the country over continuing to practice female circumcision, or female genital mutilation.

The documentary makers discovered that the procedures are widely performed in private clinics and are not regulated.

"The Government said they were developing guidelines in 2012, but none of the medical practitioners that we interviewed said they received it," Ms Wen said.

Ms Abdul — who is a journalist and works at online news publication Malaysiakini — gave birth to her first child, a girl, at the age of 20.

'You just follow and stop asking questions'
EXTERNAL LINK
The Hidden Cut Documentary
Due to religious and family pressure, her daughter was subjected to female circumcision.

"The doctor pulled away the labia and used something that looked like a needle to slit the clitoral hood," she said.

"A [flow] of blood came out and then my daughter started crying."

A decade later, Ms Abdul's viewpoint on female circumcision changed dramatically, after she found out that there was no medical benefit and that it was simply a religious ordain.

"We were already born into the culture and that society expected us to do it," she said.

"Doing it becomes automatic, you just follow and stop asking questions.

"I was young and naive and I actually didn't know what I was doing — the question I asked myself was: 'if it's pointless, then why do we do it?'"

'We are confusing it with Islam'
PHOTO There are several cultural dimensions of pregnancy, birth, and post-natal care in Malaysia.
A group of women seeing a baby sleeping
FLICKR, TAQIRUMI
A women's rights group based in Kuala Lumpur — called Sisters of Islam — told the ABC that female circumcision is widely accepted in Malaysia because of a rising conservative movement.

In countries where Islam is the majority religion, according to Sisters of Islam, there is a tendency to "Islamise everything".

"People have fear to question the practice, as if they are questioning God," Syarifatul Adibah, a senior program officer from Sisters of Islam, said.

"[Female circumcision] is not prescribed by the Koran or the Hadiths [a collection of Prophet Muhammad's sayings]," Ms Adibah added.

"But when they consider something as a religious ordain or fatwa, then it's hard for people to really challenge and debate the issue."

In 2009, the National Council of Islamic Religious Affairs (JAKIM) in Malaysia ruled that female circumcision became obligatory, moving from recommended, but if harmful must be avoided.

As result, three years later, a study conducted by Dr Maznah Dahlui from Department of Social and Preventive Medicine University of Malaya discovered that 93 per cent of Muslim women surveyed had been circumcised.

More than 80 per cent of respondents said religious obligations were behind the reason, while 16 per cent said to control sexual drives.

PHOTO Ms Abdul said it is taboo not to have a circumcision for many Muslim women.
A group of Muslim women wearing head scarves in a store
REUTERS: NYIMAS LAULA, FILE
Ms Abdul said that society often does a lot of things that copies behaviours from African and Arab countries and defend it as having a religious origin.

"We are confusing it with Islam and we think whatever they do is Islamic," she said.

She also said regardless religion or cultural tradition, parents have no rights to do whatever they wish to do to their children.

"Not only women, but every human being has the right to their own body," she said.

The ABC contacted Malaysia's Ministry of Health, Islamic Medical Association of Malaysia, and Penang Medical College, but they did not respond to requests for comment.

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[syed putra]

There are alot of minority MPs in parleement n with GRC useless minority MPs r guaranteed a seat too. So they have a voice in parleement.

Those voices are vcntrolled and not one you would get from a malay majority constituent.

 

[syed putra]

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Female circumcision: Culture and religion in Malaysia see millions of girls undergo cut
BY ERWIN RENALDI
UPDATED ABOUT 3 HOURS AGO
A photo of a woman smiling to camera
PHOTO Fa Abdul started questioning the female circumcision practice when she was 30 years old
SUPPLIED
Fa Abdul was nine years old when she found out she had been circumcised when she was just a baby.

Key Points
A 2012 study found 93 per cent of Muslim women in Malaysia have been circumcised
Female circumcision is not prescribed in the Koran or Hadiths, women's advocates say
One mother says Malaysia's culture and society "expected us to do it"
She was among the millions of girls across Malaysia whose families believe that female circumcision protects young girls from committing "sins".

"Many Muslims in Malaysia will tell you that circumcision will protect girls from growing up and becoming wild," Ms Abdul said.

Ms Abdul spoke to the ABC about her experience after a new documentary — titled The Hidden Cut — was released last week.

Chen Yih Wen, a senior producer from the group behind the documentary R.AGE, said the team started making the documentary after Malaysia was criticised at a United Nations forum in February.

The UN's Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, held in Switzerland, slammed the country over continuing to practice female circumcision, or female genital mutilation.

The documentary makers discovered that the procedures are widely performed in private clinics and are not regulated.

"The Government said they were developing guidelines in 2012, but none of the medical practitioners that we interviewed said they received it," Ms Wen said.

Ms Abdul — who is a journalist and works at online news publication Malaysiakini — gave birth to her first child, a girl, at the age of 20.

'You just follow and stop asking questions'
EXTERNAL LINK
The Hidden Cut Documentary
Due to religious and family pressure, her daughter was subjected to female circumcision.

"The doctor pulled away the labia and used something that looked like a needle to slit the clitoral hood," she said.

"A [flow] of blood came out and then my daughter started crying."

A decade later, Ms Abdul's viewpoint on female circumcision changed dramatically, after she found out that there was no medical benefit and that it was simply a religious ordain.

"We were already born into the culture and that society expected us to do it," she said.

"Doing it becomes automatic, you just follow and stop asking questions.

"I was young and naive and I actually didn't know what I was doing — the question I asked myself was: 'if it's pointless, then why do we do it?'"

'We are confusing it with Islam'
PHOTO There are several cultural dimensions of pregnancy, birth, and post-natal care in Malaysia.
A group of women seeing a baby sleeping
FLICKR, TAQIRUMI
A women's rights group based in Kuala Lumpur — called Sisters of Islam — told the ABC that female circumcision is widely accepted in Malaysia because of a rising conservative movement.

In countries where Islam is the majority religion, according to Sisters of Islam, there is a tendency to "Islamise everything".

"People have fear to question the practice, as if they are questioning God," Syarifatul Adibah, a senior program officer from Sisters of Islam, said.

"[Female circumcision] is not prescribed by the Koran or the Hadiths [a collection of Prophet Muhammad's sayings]," Ms Adibah added.

"But when they consider something as a religious ordain or fatwa, then it's hard for people to really challenge and debate the issue."

In 2009, the National Council of Islamic Religious Affairs (JAKIM) in Malaysia ruled that female circumcision became obligatory, moving from recommended, but if harmful must be avoided.

As result, three years later, a study conducted by Dr Maznah Dahlui from Department of Social and Preventive Medicine University of Malaya discovered that 93 per cent of Muslim women surveyed had been circumcised.

More than 80 per cent of respondents said religious obligations were behind the reason, while 16 per cent said to control sexual drives.

PHOTO Ms Abdul said it is taboo not to have a circumcision for many Muslim women.
A group of Muslim women wearing head scarves in a store
REUTERS: NYIMAS LAULA, FILE
Ms Abdul said that society often does a lot of things that copies behaviours from African and Arab countries and defend it as having a religious origin.

"We are confusing it with Islam and we think whatever they do is Islamic," she said.

She also said regardless religion or cultural tradition, parents have no rights to do whatever they wish to do to their children.

"Not only women, but every human being has the right to their own body," she said.

The ABC contacted Malaysia's Ministry of Health, Islamic Medical Association of Malaysia, and Penang Medical College, but they did not respond to requests for comment.

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Thats why i avoid bonking a minah. They cut the clit so no feeling.

 

[syed putra]

That just means Islam is a religion that has no respect for others. If a Mudslime can lord over a non mudslimes. Why not vice versa? Why only in Islam do they demand rights above others. ?

Thats because muslims are vonfident their religion is ordained while others are fakes.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Thats because muslims are vonfident their religion is ordained while others are fakes.

So can other religions think the same too and discriminate against mudslimes?

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Those voices are vcntrolled and not one you would get from a malay majority constituent.

Does not matter...in the eyes of mudslimes...as long as mudslimes n halal can oreadi

 

[syed putra]

So can other religions think the same too and discriminate against mudslimes?

It doesn't work that way because other religion are fakes in muslim eyes.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Thats why i avoid bonking a minah. They cut the clit so no feeling.

Why don't u speak out against such a practice? Instead u condone such actions. N to think m&ds want 4 wives n younger better n don't want good bonk? What a joke

 

[Hypocrite-The]

It doesn't work that way because other religion are fakes in muslim eyes.

And if that is the case. How can it be a religion of peace?

 

[syed putra]

And if that is the case. How can it be a religion of peace?

I already said. Repeat and repeat. Its not a religion. It evolved into one.