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Pek Kim Lui

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i suggest that instead of tearing our hair out over whether to define all these various mongrel strains as malay owing to the lack of suitable pedigreed malay candidates, why not get a pinoy to run instead? At least there's no question about their malay heritage and ethnicity, philippines being a part of the ancient malay archipelago.

Ironically, the oft-quoted exemplar of malay heroism, the legendary hang tuah, was actually a chinese; while the greatest real malay is the filipino hero jose rizal.

As to the argument that malays are muslims, people forget that the entire malay archipelago – including the peninsula – was hindu and buddhist until muslim settlers from arabia and india started settling in the region from the 10th century onwards. Sang nila utama, the true founder and namer of singapore, was buddhist. The sri vijaya empire is considered by historians to be the progenitors of modern malay culture.


are filipinos malays?

singapore’s racial politics have confused the racial status for philippine immigrants.

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by mong palatino
february 27, 2013


if asked about their race, most filipinos would identify as being malay. Filipinos are taught in schools to be proud of their malay heritage and encouraged to strengthen their ties with other malays in southeast asia.

but filipinos wishing to migrate in singapore have to deny this fundamental identification because the singapore government rejects the classification of filipinos as malay. But if filipinos are not malay, what ethnicity are they? Officially, singapore recognizes immigrants from the neighboring philippines as part of the racial category referred to as “other.”

but why refuse the malay background of filipinos in the first place? Perhaps it has something to do with the special privileges accorded to the malay minority in singapore. Article 152 of the constitution of singapore states that the government “shall recognize the special position of the malays, who are the indigenous people of singapore, and accordingly it shall be the responsibility of the government to protect, safeguard, support, foster and promote their political, educational, religious, economic, social and cultural interests and the malay language.”

some legal issues could arise if new immigrants from the philippines are identified as malays. They could be given special privileges as well. If this were to happen, the indigenous malays in singapore might not be in favor of it.

in fact, the recent publication of the government’s population strategy triggered a parliamentary discussion on the race status of filipinos. Zainal bin sapari of singapore’s pasir ris-punggol district and a malay-muslim member of parliament asked for a clarification on the official race category for immigrants from the philippines.

he said: “there are those who said that citizens from the philippines (who are) accepted as singaporean citizens will be categorized as malays because historically they are considered to have the same roots as malays. Is this true? If it is true, this would mean that even though the percentage is maintained, the identity and the meaning of the label ‘malay’ will change.”

singapore’s immigration and checkpoints authority immediately replied: “this is not true. New singapore citizens of filipino origin are not classified as malays. They are typically classified as ‘others’ under the race category.”

indeed, this was affirmed by communications and information minister yaacob ibrahim who wrote on facebook that filipinos are classified as “others” and not as malays.

for filipino immigrants, it must come as a shock for them to be told by singaporean authorities that they are not malays. To avoid immigration troubles, perhaps it is more convenient for filipino workers to shade the “others” category when filing paperwork than to insist that they are malays.

but in fairness to singapore, some scholars have also rejected the claim that filipinos are malays. They argue that ethnic malays reside in indonesia, brunei, malaysia and singapore, but not in the philippines. These scholars blame colonialism and erroneous western ethnography for the inaccurate classification of filipino as malays.

yet philippine hero dr. Jose rizal is often called the “pride of the malay race.” malaysian opposition leader anwar ibrahim, for instance, has recognized rizal as the “greatest malayan,” calling rizal an “asian renaissance man.”

and what to make of the racial status of residents of sabah? This territory is officially part of malaysia but is also claimed by the sultanate of sulu, a local kingdom in southern philippines. The people of sabah belong to the malaysian federation. What would happen if the state became part of the philippines?
EEsingapore’s racial politics may efficiently manage the influx of foreign workers, but they can also lead to confusion and incorrect assumptions. This is especially true in the case of their neighbors from the philippines who are categorized as coming from the “other” race.

a lot of peenoise in mindano qualify as malay mooselim
SO LETZ HV A PEENOISE OR PEENAIR AS PREZ,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
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yellowarse

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a lot of peenoise in mindano qualify as malay mooselim

Likewise the Malays form the majority in the restive southern Thai provinces.

It's only ignorant and myopic people who think that 'Malays' refers only to 'native' inhabitants of Singapore and W. Malaysia, and that all Malays must be Muslims.

Question I like to pose to my Malay friends: Before Islam came to S.E. Asia, did the Malays exist? If so, what religion did they practise? Or did they just materialize out of thin air once Islam took root here a thousand years ago?

Ethnicity and culture have been deliberately conflated with religion by our political masters but most Singaporeans – Malays included – remain blissfully duped by the official narrative.
 

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Thinking Aloud

Mixed marriages should debunk idea of 'pure' race

Zakir Hussain
Political Editor
PUBLISHEDJUL 30, 2017, 5:00 AM SGT
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Statistics show 1 in 3 Muslim marriages here inter-ethnic
The past two weeks have seen some debate online over just "how Malay" the aspirants for the upcoming presidential election are.

One common question that has been raised is why there are no "pure Malay" hopefuls stepping up, now that the law has been changed to reserve a presidential election for a race if it has not been represented in the post in the past five terms.

Tied to such thinking is the view that people can be neatly divided into pure Chinese, Malays or Indians, and that only such individuals should be deemed members of their community.


Such a view is misguided, although it is understandable that it continues to be held by a sizeable number of people.

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All along, and long before independence, Singaporeans have bridged racial lines in school, at work, and in marriage.

But in the authorities trying to ensure that all races are represented in schools, HDB estates and Parliament, people may have inadvertently been viewed more in terms of their race than by their individual merits.


Perhaps a more optimistic indicator of how Singaporeans view race is the latest statistics on marriages and divorces, released two weeks ago, that show inter-ethnic marriages making up over one in five of last year's 27,971 marriages. According to the data , 21.5 per cent of total marriages last year were between members of two different races, up from 15.4 per cent in 2006.



33.9%
Percentage of marriages in 2016 in the Muslim community - where they are governed under the Administration of Muslim Law Act - that were inter-ethnic.

18.2%
Percentage of civil marriages in 2016 that were inter-ethnic.

Such inter-ethnic marriages were more prevalent among the Muslim community. These marriages made up one in three - or 33.9 per cent - of Muslim marriages, compared with 18.2 per cent of civil marriages.

Given this high proportion of mixed marriages, many of which involve one Malay partner, perhaps it is little wonder that many Malays are less seized by trying to find, let alone pin down, a "pure Malay".

By comparison, when Singapore became independent in 1965, 508 marriages - one in 20, or 5 per cent of all marriages that year - were between people of different races.

The growing trend of inter-ethnic marriages led demographer Saw Swee Hock to note in his book, The Population Of Singapore, 10 years ago: "It would appear that the past stabilised state of relations among the different races is now giving way to a very gradual advance in the level of assimilation.

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"But this is still way behind the creation of a melting pot situation of mixed races," he added.

Sociologists attribute the rising number of inter-ethnic marriages to various factors, including the greater use of English as a common language and a large permanent resident and non-resident population.

There have also been more spaces for people from different races to mingle and get to know one another better - from schools to neighbourhoods and workplaces.

National University of Singapore sociologist Tan Ern Ser says these opportunities for people of different ethnicities to meet have also made them more cosmopolitan, open-minded and adaptable to cultural differences.

There is a growing number of Singaporeans with parents from two or more of the main ethnic groups, and this pool is set to grow with the rise in inter-ethnic unions.

Some see themselves as members of one group. Others see themselves as members of both their parents' communities. Yet others may feel more comfortable just identifying themselves as Singaporean. All are equally valid - and legitimate - responses.

On the one hand, some have cited the trend of growing inter-marriages and greater integration among the different racial groups in their call to do away with the long-established CMIO - or Chinese, Malay, Indian and Others - model of classification when it comes to housing quotas, or recording race on identity cards, or even the group representation constituencies.

On the other hand, racial classifications have governed how many Singaporeans see themselves, and continue to affect how our neighbours see us.

They also offer a way of seeing whether racism and discrimination are things of the past or if they are still very much with us today, and enable the authorities to track indicators such as the educational performance and well-being of minorities, including in areas such as health and housing type.

But policies are not set in stone, and changing demographics have seen adjustments being made.

For instance, in recognition of the rising number of children born to parents of more than one race, citizens of mixed parentage were allowed to reflect two races on their identity cards from 2011, if they so wished.

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So someone whose mother is Malay, and whose father is Chinese, can change his race on his IC to Malay-Chinese or Chinese-Malay.

Or he can still choose to remain registered as Chinese or Malay. And mixed-race couples have the same options for their children.

However, as anecdotal accounts of couples in inter-racial marriages suggest, the fact that there are more inter-ethnic unions does not automatically suggest that racism or discrimination is decreasing.

Incidents of discrimination and casual racism continue to make the headlines from time to time, and are not easily quantifiable. But every incident is one too many.

It is why schools have, for the past 20 years, made an effort to celebrate Racial Harmony Day and remind students about such values as respect for and acceptance of differences.

It is also why I believe it is a good thing for Singaporeans to see and know that their presidents must come from all the main communities here, even as they represent all Singaporeans, regardless of race.

Some will, no doubt, continue to quibble over how "pure" these candidates might be.

They might want to ponder what Nominated MP Thomas Chua, now immediate past president of the Singapore Chinese Chamber of Commerce and Industry, said when he spoke during the debate on amendments to the Presidential Elections Act earlier this year. "Singapore is a multiracial society; interracial marriages and new immigrants will create the interchanging and integration of ethnicity, which is a positive development," he said.

"If there is an outstanding individual with superlative abilities who is willing to serve society, and whose parents belong to different ethnic groups, both ethnic groups would be proud of him or her."

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A version of this article appeared in the print edition of The Sunday Times on July 30, 2017, with the headline 'Mixed marriages should debunk idea of 'pure' race'. Print Edition | Subscribe

why Pinky never inter marry
 

nitecrawllerr

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the PAP surely can find 1 or 2 real m&ds who meet the EP criteria to contest the presidency ? really fucking no one ?

There are Malays who may meet the criteria. But if they do not lick the govt balls, they would not be selected. Simple as that. I guess Halimah may be "forced" to accept the EP.
 

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Likewise the Malays form the majority in the restive southern Thai provinces.

It's only ignorant and myopic people who think that 'Malays' refers only to 'native' inhabitants of Singapore and W. Malaysia, and that all Malays must be Muslims.

Question I like to pose to my Malay friends: Before Islam came to S.E. Asia, did the Malays exist? If so, what religion did they practise? Or did they just materialize out of thin air once Islam took root here a thousand years ago?

Ethnicity and culture have been deliberately conflated with religion by our political masters but most Singaporeans – Malays included – remain blissfully duped by the official narrative.

m&ds are only the majority only in the deep south which are the 3 provinces of yala, pattani and narathiwat.

Southern thais further north say towards phuket, krabi etc are not malays.
 
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