• IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here.

    The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.

The hydrogen age has arrived.

syed putra

Alfrescian
Loyal
extract hydrogen from oil
WNM | Aug 22, 2019 at 12:03 AM
oil-new.jpg

BARCELONA, August 21 (WNM/press release) - Scientists have developed a large-scale economical method to extract hydrogen (H2) from oil sands (natural bitumen) and oil fields. This can be used to power hydrogen-powered vehicles, which are already marketed in some countries, as well as to generate electricity; hydrogen is regarded as an efficient transport fuel, similar to petrol and diesel, but with no pollution problems.
The process can extract hydrogen from existing oil sands reservoirs, with huge existing supplies found in Canada and Venezuela. Interestingly, this process can be applied to mainstream oil fields, causing them to produce hydrogen instead of oil. Hydrogen powered vehicles, including cars, buses, and trains, have been in development for many years. These vehicles have been acknowledged to be efficient, but the high price of extracting the Hydrogen from oil reserves has meant that the technology has not been economically viable.
Now a group of Canadian engineers have developed a cheap method of extracting H2 from oil sands. They are presenting this work at the Goldschmidt Geochemistry Conference in Barcelona. “There are vast oil sand reservoirs in several countries, with huge fields in Alberta in Canada, but also in Venezuela and other countries” said Dr Ian Gates, of the Department of Chemical Engineering at the University of Calgary, and of Proton Technologies Inc.).
Oil fields, even abandoned oil fields, still contain significant amounts of oil. The researchers have found that injecting oxygen into the fields raises the temperature and liberates H2, which can them be separated from other gases via specialist filters. Hydrogen is not pre-existing in the reservoirs, but pumping oxygen means that the reaction to form hydrogen can take place.
Grant Strem, CEO of Proton Technologies which is commercialising the process says “This technique can draw up huge quantities of hydrogen while leaving the carbon in the ground. When working at production level, we anticipate we will be able to use the existing infrastructure and distribution chains to produce H2 for between 10 and 50 cents per kilo. This means it potentially costs a fraction of gasoline for equivalent output”.
This compares with current H2 production costs of around $2/kilo. Around 5% of the H2produced then powers the oxygen production plant, so the system more than pays for itself.
The economics of the process is favourable according to Grant Strem “What comes out of the ground is hydrogen gas, so we don’t have the huge above-ground purification costs associated with oil refining: we use the ground as our reaction vessel. Just taking Alberta as an example, we have the potential to supply Canada’s entire electricity requirement for 330 years (Canada uses around 2.5% of the world’s electricity – around the same amount as Germany, and more than France or the UK). Our initial aim is to scale up the production from Canadian oil sands, but in fact, we anticipate that most of the interest in this process will come from outside Canada, as the economics and the environmental implications make people look very hard at whether they want to continue conventional oil production. The only product of this process is hydrogen, meaning that it the technology is effectively pollution and emission free. All the other gases remain in the ground because they cannot go through the hydrogen filter and up to the surface”.
The technology was developed by Ian Gates and Jacky Wang as the result of an agreement between the University of Calgary and Proton Technologies Inc., which now holds the patent.
Professor Brian Horsfield (GFZ German Research Centre for Geosciences, Potsdam) said: “The research is highly innovative and exciting. It’s an adaptation of some 1970’s fire-flood production concepts, but tuned to a modern day perspective. Declining oil field production infrastructures now stand to get a new lease of life. Extensive field testing will be crucial in assessing how the system works on industrial scales and over time”
 

syed putra

Alfrescian
Loyal
So they are finding more ways to kill people then.:eek:
We have lng pipes all over the place in europe anr lpg cooking gas tanks is essentially standard in south east asia. But both produce carbon emmission when used.
Rockets to space uses mixture of compressed hydrogen and oxygen.
 

Asterix

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Hydrogen powered cars are already a reality, but you have to move to Southern California if you want to drive it without fear of running out of gas.

Toyota Mirai:


Hyundai Nexon:

 

mojito

Alfrescian
Loyal
You not watch NDR every year? So much hot air from Loong its a miracle the building is still standing! :laugh:
 

tun_dr_m

Alfrescian
Loyal
Don't be a sucker FOOLED BY CHOW ANG MOH FAKE Technologies Talks and Falsehood Crap Sales.

Man can NEVER SAVE THEMSELVES NOR EARTH with recycling nor alternative energy means. At the most buy a bit extra time before own TOTAL EXTINCTION SUICIDE. The EXACT END RESULT OF RUINED ECOLOGY SYSTEM + LIVELESS PLANET + TOTAL EXTINCTION IS ALWAYS THE SAME.

Extraction of HYDROGEN from forssil fuel is a process itself which SPENDS AWAY ENERGY and cause )HEAT POLLUTION AND GLOBAL WARMING, there is no way to dodge that if you understand chemistry. After extracting hydrogen from forssil fuel THERE IS EXTRA WASTE REMAINING FROM the rest of fossil fuel components. Which is POLLUTENT ITSELF AND IT IS STILL CARBON DISCHARGED to environment. Cause THE EXACT SAME ISSUE.

Chow Ang Moh caught themselves desperately into a TOTAL EXTINCTION SUICIDE INVOLVING 8 Billion Desperate hopeless population. Struggling to bluff their way out. Hoodwink consumer will all their GREEN SHIT PRIDCT IDEAS. There is nothing else but speeding up their sucide and lost precious time.

There will be no real solution other than massive culling and elimination. Totally REVERSE ALL OF CHOW ANG MOH PREACHED TOXIC IDEAS e.g. Humanity Human Rights Freedom Peace Rule of Law Security Democracy Global Economic Development and Industrialism.
 

syed putra

Alfrescian
Loyal
Don't be a sucker FOOLED BY CHOW ANG MOH FAKE Technologies Talks and Falsehood Crap Sales.

Man can NEVER SAVE THEMSELVES NOR EARTH with recycling nor alternative energy means. At the most buy a bit extra time before own TOTAL EXTINCTION SUICIDE. The EXACT END RESULT OF RUINED ECOLOGY SYSTEM + LIVELESS PLANET + TOTAL EXTINCTION IS ALWAYS THE SAME.

Extraction of HYDROGEN from forssil fuel is a process itself which SPENDS AWAY ENERGY and cause )HEAT POLLUTION AND GLOBAL WARMING, there is no way to dodge that if you understand chemistry. After extracting hydrogen from forssil fuel THERE IS EXTRA WASTE REMAINING FROM the rest of fossil fuel components. Which is POLLUTENT ITSELF AND IT IS STILL CARBON DISCHARGED to environment. Cause THE EXACT SAME ISSUE.

Chow Ang Moh caught themselves desperately into a TOTAL EXTINCTION SUICIDE INVOLVING 8 Billion Desperate hopeless population. Struggling to bluff their way out. Hoodwink consumer will all their GREEN SHIT PRIDCT IDEAS. There is nothing else but speeding up their sucide and lost precious time.

There will be no real solution other than massive culling and elimination. Totally REVERSE ALL OF CHOW ANG MOH PREACHED TOXIC IDEAS e.g. Humanity Human Rights Freedom Peace Rule of Law Security Democracy Global Economic Development and Industrialism.
The carbon remains underground. Only hydrogen and some gas extracts are emmitted which can be filtered out.
 

tun_dr_m

Alfrescian
Loyal
The carbon remains underground. Only hydrogen and some gas extracts are emmitted which can be filtered out.

Not throwing waste in to the air is only a delayed temporary concealment of problems. ALL POLLUTION STILL EXIST (IF NOT MADE WORSE) by Chow Ang Mph cheating concepts. Wasted resources wasted energy and global warming still no escape. Can only buy a tiny bit of extra time before the whole TOTAL EXTINCTION SUCIDE GOT COMPLETED.

There is a MOST FUNDAMENTAL WRONG, which men jus refuse to face the TRUTH. Modern Civilization is COMPLETELY WRONG CONCEPT. It is a Toxic suicide idea, intoxicating and confusing nan to ruin everything to pamper themselves. Greedily and Cowardly tying to keep all those EXCESSIVE POPULATION THAT UNIVEEE WOULD NEVER HAVE SUFFICIENT RESOURCES TO SATISFY.

Man selfishness stupidity and greed and cowardliness KNOWS NO LIMIT. EARTH AND NIVERSAL RESOURCES HAS A FINITE LIMIT.

Man will NEVER IN AND MUST EVENTUALLY LOST and Perished with whole lot of things the fucking ruined.

The only correct way was our ancestors good old way of keeping balance with right and proper carnage war torturing deprivation and ELIMINATION. Strongest and fittest will only survive after the ELIMINATED and Bullied the weakest and NOT TO PROTECT THEM INSTEAD. Never get fooled by modern civilization to commit TOTAL EXTINCTION SUICIDE.

Man lived in correct way for millions of years since stone age and Earth Resources and Environmental Quality had no issues all these millions of years, ONLY BECAUSE EL8MINATUON AND DEPRIVATION kept population and consumption level down to very low level.

Those human that need to be culled eliminated cannibalized and consumed were NEVER SPARED. Why are we making such SILLY STUPID DUMB MUSTAKE NOW?
 
Top