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The dilema that Britain is now in shows that it should have gone down the same path as Sweden

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The Covid-19 class war - UnHerd
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Catastrophe is a great leveller. Plague, revolution, war… they all reduce inequality. But as lockdown lengthens into months, it’s clear that Covid-19 is different. It is going to entrench difference. The lives of working-class Britons, unlike those of their wealthier counterparts, will not stand still while the economy is frozen; they will worsen.
In ordinary times, there are correctives to inequality. Education, for example. For some children, life is roughly sketched out before they even pull on their first school uniform. According to the Sutton Trust, children from the poorest fifth of families are almost a year (11.1 months) behind middle-income families in scores on vocabulary tests by the time they are five — often because parents do not have the time or resources to read with them at home. Schools exist to reduce this gap; they give poorer children the opportunity to pull level with their better-off peers.

With Covid-19 shuttering schools, all pupils are having to ‘learn’ from home. Inevitably, those disadvantaged pupils are falling behind. Wealthier parents are more likely to have the resources to home educate their children — or pay for tutors. Meanwhile, private schools are better equipped to facilitate distance learning. According to a survey by the pollsters Teacher Tapp, 27% of teachers in private secondary schools had worked with online video conferencing, compared with just 2% of teachers at state secondaries.

https://unherd.com/2019/12/brexit-has-exposed-our-education-apartheid-2/?=refinnar
While children are losing out in lockdown, so, too, are their parents. The old class divide of the 20th century was crudely defined as existing between those who worked with their brains and those who toiled with their hands. The contemporary divide, for the foreseeable future at least, will be between those forced into potentially unsafe working environments and an office class who have the relative luxury of working from home.

Data from the ONS illustrate the gulf between these two groups. Men working in the lowest skilled occupations — security guards, bus drivers, shop workers — already have some of the highest Covid-19 death rates. While frontline healthcare professionals such as doctors and nurses do not appear to be at significantly increased risk of death from the virus, those working in social care are, with rates of 23.4 deaths per 100,000 males and 9.6 deaths per 100,000 females. These roles are low status — as one carer told me when I worked in the sector while researching my book Hired in 2016, most care workers are “treated like glorified cleaners”. Now they are classed as ‘key workers’, even as the Government fails to provide enough Personal Protective Equipment.

Boris Johnson’s dilemma is unenviable. The notion that the lockdown can go on indefinitely until a vaccine is found is a popular misconception. According to YouGov, more than a third of the population (37%) believe the Government should wait until there are no new cases of Covid-19 at all before beginning to ease restrictions. But for every month we are locked down, the economy will take years to recover.

So informing people, as the Prime Minister did, that people can work if it is safe for them to do so, isn’t some dastardly Tory plot to give the virus an opportunity to wipe out the elderly and vulnerable. It’s an attempt to keep the economy moving. It is an unhappy consequence of the crisis that the manual and professional workforces face very different levels of risk.

This is compounded by the fact that inequality affects your risk from Covid. Men born in the most deprived areas of Britain can expect almost 20 (18.6) fewer years of good health compared to those born in the least deprived areas. These inequalities are even worse when it comes to black and ethnic minority Britons. Disadvantaged groups are therefore more likely to experience complications if they catch the virus.

But getting people back to work is a necessity. So what’s the solution?
 

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Second wave of coronavirus: What if Sweden got it right?
by Tom Rogan | May 14, 2020 02:35 PM

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A second wave of coronavirus cases is forcing South Korea and China into new lockdowns and extensive tracing efforts.

There's a lesson here for America. To get out of the mess in any reasonable amount of time, we must consider copying Sweden's approach — isolation of the vulnerable and their caretakers, combined with the cautious pursuit of herd immunity.

More than 100 South Koreans have become infected in recent days after attending bars in Seoul. And in Wuhan, China, authorities say that at least six people have tested positive. Considering Beijing's penchant for coronavirus lies, it's likely far more than that, or else we wouldn't be hearing anything at all, let alone new government plans to test all 11 million residents of the city where the virus first broke out.

We still have only a small portion of the evidence, but we may ultimately learn that relaxed lockdowns will not stop this virus. At some point, someone will travel without symptoms and infect others in a different location. Then some of those individuals who lack symptoms will infect others. The spiral will start again.

Some suggest that mitigation measures can balance public health protections with a return to some sense of normalcy. South Korea's example is showing us how difficult that will be.

The rollout of antibody tests, which will show if someone has previously contracted the virus without their knowledge and is thus now immune to reinfection, can allow some individuals to get back to normal life, while others without antibodies shelter in place. But the growing resentment against lockdowns might hint that people are unlikely to honor such orders. All of this also misses the broader issue that continued lockdowns are inherently authoritarian and trample our freedoms, even if they are justifiable. At best, they are necessary evils — at worst, they are avoidable ones.

Sweden, which chose an alternative approach to the virus from the beginning, might yet prove to have taken a better path. The Swedish government forbade gatherings of more than 50 people and directed vulnerable citizens to self-isolate. But it also left parks, schools, restaurants, bars, and workplaces open for everyone else. The result in terms of per capita COVID-19 deaths has been no worse than in other European countries, and much better than Spain, Italy, or the United Kingdom. And although Sweden's death rate has been higher than that of the United States, in the long run, this approach might make Sweden more resistant than we are to second and third waves of the disease.

Meanwhile, Sweden's civil society and economy have retained some measure of normalcy. And surely, there are corollary benefits for public health, such as fewer cancer treatments missed, fewer stress-induced illnesses, more human contact, and so on, than there would be under lockdown. Continued employment also has its own health benefits, especially in terms of psychological well-being. And Sweden is on course to avoid both the massive government outlays and the massive shortfall of revenue that other governments will suffer.

The jury is out, but Americans should look carefully at what happens in Sweden in the coming weeks next to secondary outbreaks elsewhere. What if they chose the better path, taking a justifiable risk?
 

syed putra

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Those under lockdown will not be able to open up their borders. Thus can go on for months. Airlines can go bust.
 

sleaguepunter

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Those under lockdown will not be able to open up their borders. Thus can go on for months. Airlines can go bust.
good what. let the original company go bust, restructured the debts, pay a pittance back to creditors and then restart with original assets with no debts. MAS was a good example.
 

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Ah tiong land also has the same problem n just proves lockdowns don't work

Chinese city quarantines thousands over new COVID-19 cluster
Students queue at a distance outside a middle school in Shenyang
Students queue at a distance outside a middle school while waiting for a temperature check in Shenyang, China's northeastern Liaoning province, on Apr 20, 2020. (Photo: STR / AFP)
15 May 2020 08:02PM
(Updated: 15 May 2020 08:10PM)
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BEIJING: A major city in north-east China has quarantined over 7,500 people after it discovered three new coronavirus cases in the past five days as the region sees a surge in infections.

China has largely brought the virus under control after months of lockdowns and curbs on travel, but fears of a second wave have risen as clusters have emerged in northeast provinces and in the central city of Wuhan.

READ: Fresh test for Wuhan as cluster sparks mass COVID-19 screening
Shenyang, a city of around 7.5 million, reported its first new local case in 89 days on Monday (May 11), and a further two new local cases on Thursday.

Its government confirmed Thursday that the new cases were linked to a cluster in the city of Shulan, nearly 500km away in neighbouring Jilin province.

Some 7,500 people who arrived from Jilin since Apr 22 and those who came in close contact to the three local cases in Shenyang were required to undergo 21-day quarantine and three nucleic acid tests.

The city has also postponed reopening schools - some of which had been scheduled to welcome back students on Friday.

Authorities in the pandemic ground zero of Wuhan have also ordered mass COVID-19 testing for all 11 million residents after a new cluster of cases emerged over the weekend.

President Xi Jinping said on Thursday that containment measures must be stepped up in Jilin, neighbouring Heilongjiang and Wuhan "to forestall resurgence of infections", reported Xinhua.

The cities of Jilin and Shulan, both in Jilin province, have been put under lockdown within the past week after an initial cluster that appeared in Shulan on Monday spilled over to Jilin.

Strict controls have been placed on transport, schools have been ordered to close and mass gatherings banned.

Jilin's vice mayor warned Wednesday that the situation was "extremely severe and complicated" and "there is major risk of further spread".

The Shulan cluster was linked to a local woman with no known overseas travel history or previous exposure to the virus, sparking concerns over its unknown origin.
 

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This herd immunity strategy is a crock of shit. You do realise other countries won't let travellers from UK into their borders in case of contamination right?
 

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Britain saw the Italian situation and realize that Brits will not stomach the high deaths that will ensue with the herd immunity practice. God knows how many Brits will have to die before the immunity is realized.
 

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I really don't understand what is there to "get right"?

So Sweden got it right by not locking down correct? Wear mask. Encourage sensibility.

So what is stopping any country from doing the same 8 weeks after they decided to lockdown?

You mean lockdown then cannot do the NO LOCKDOWN Sweden approach anymore?

Just be late to the game lah. Get started ASAP.
 
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