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Thaksin Poorer By 46 Billion Bahts, Niania...

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Thailand’s highest court has ruled that ousted Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra concealed his assets while in office and abused his power for personal gain, and ordered the seizure of 46 billion baht ($1.4 billion) of his $2.29 billion in frozen assets.

The Supreme Court ruled Friday that "to seize all the money would be unfair since some of it was made before Thaksin became prime minister."

The verdict brings an end to a case that started after Thaksin was deposed by a 2006 military coup for alleged massive corruption and abuse of power.

Security was tight around the courthouse amid government fears of violence from Thaksin supporters.



BANGKOK (AP) _ Thailand’s Supreme Court ruled Friday that ousted Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra unlawfully concealed his assets while in office and abused his power for personal gain, as it prepared to issue a decision on whether his $2.29 billion fortune should be seized.

The nine-judge panel, reading a lengthy verdict, said it had unanimously agreed Thaksin and his ex-wife still held shares in Shin Corp., a telecommunications giant he founded, while he was prime minister.

Thaksin was ousted in a 2006 military coup for alleged corruption and abuse of power.

The court also agreed that he had shaped government policies on mobile phone regulations that profited the country’s largest service provider, also controlled by his family.

Legal experts have said that a ruling that Thaksin had hidden his shares in Shin Corp. while in office would lead to a court decision that government policies had benefited the company and constituted a conflict of interest.

Tight security was in place around the courthouse, amid government fears that Thaksin loyalists could react to the verdict with violence. Whatever the decision, Thailand’s four-year-long political turmoil is expected to persist.

The Supreme Court is broadly applying mostly untested anti-corruption statutes in determining whether Thaksin _ a telecommunications tycoon before entering politics _ became "unusually wealthy" by abusing his position at the head of government in 2001-2006.

They could order the confiscation of the $2.29 billion of his family’s assets frozen in Thai banks. Thaksin and an unknown portion of his family’s wealth are safely ensconced abroad.

Thaksin, who faces a two-year jail term in Thailand, was monitoring the proceedings from exile in Dubai, where he was scheduled to provide a running commentary via video link.

In an early decision favoring the prosecution, the judges dismissed defense arguments that the process leading to the trial was illegitimate.

The defense had argued that a special committee set up to investigate Thaksin included appointees who were previously involved in the popular movement to oust him. It also questioned whether the committee had legal authority to bring the charges.

In a message on Twitter early Friday, Thaksin insisted all the money he and has family accumulated was "with our own sweat, labor and brains. We never cheated."

The government of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva hopes Friday’s ruling will lead to a return of stability, but has ordered a security crackdown around the country, claiming that the pro-Thaksin "Red Shirt" movement may be planning violence.

"We hope for the best," said government spokesman Panitan Wattanayagorn. "Of course many people fear for the worst but we are ready to manage whatever comes."

The judges will look at whether Thaksin illegally parked his fortune with family members because he was not allowed to hold company shares while prime minister, and whether his administration implemented policies to benefit his family’s businesses, an offense that has been termed "policy corruption."

Issues include whether telecoms liberalization measures unfairly benefited the country’s main mobile phone service provider, then controlled by Thaksin’s family; and whether he unfairly promoted a US$127 million low-interest loan to neighboring Myanmar to benefit a satellite communications company also controlled by his family.

Thaksin’s critics would see a guilty verdict as the culmination of a process to cleanse Thai politics that began with protests in 2006 calling for his ouster for alleged corruption that segued into a military coup in September that year. They also accuse him of disrespecting the country’s constitutional monarch, 82-year-old King Bhumibol Adulyadej.

His supporters would see such a ruling as the latest in a series of injustices that drove a democratically elected leader from office despite two sweeping election victories. They believe he is being persecuted because the traditional urban ruling class felt threatened when he empowered the country’s rural majority, which was grateful for Thaksin’s innovative social welfare programs.

The passions held by the two sides led to the occupation of the seat of government for several months and the seizure of the capital’s two airports for a week by Thaksin’s opponents in 2008, and rioting and disruption of a conference of Asian heads of government by his supporters last year.

His Red Shirt supporters continue to rally on his behalf and have promised a "million-man" march next month.

Thaksin, who fled into exile ahead of a 2008 conviction on a conflict of interest charge, rallies his followers by video and over the Internet.

His opponents accuse him of funding the Red Shirt movement to topple the government, and hope that seizing his assets will starve the movement.

But at least one analyst says the anti-government movement will not simply fade away, even if Thaksin’s cash dries up.

"It would not put an end to Thailand’s crisis because now Thaksin’s supporters, the Red Shirts _ the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship _ they have evolved into their own force to be reckoned with," says Thitinan Pongsudhirak, a political scientist from Bangkok’s Chulalongkorn



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More than $1bn of the frozen assets of Thaksin Shinawatra, the former prime minister of Thailand, will be confiscated after a court ruled that he had abused his power.

The nine judges in Thailand's supreme court said on Friday that Thaksin, who was forced from power by a coup in 2006, had used his position as premier to the benefit of his Shin Corp telecoms company.

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Five of the nine judges, same same but different...:o

"The majority of the judges ruled that Thaksin used his power in favour of Shin Corp," they said in a ruling read out on national television and radio.

"The dividends and the sale of the shares in Shin Corp is wealth acquired through inappropriate means."

The court said that Thaksin, who is currently living in exile, had concealed shares in Shin Corp and geared several government telecom policies to favour the company.

Thailand froze $2.3bn of Thaksin's assets after he was forced from power and convicted of graft in absentia.

It was not immediately clear if the remaining assets, which the court found had been accumulated by Thaksin before he became prime minister, would be returned to him.

'Very political'

Speaking from Dubai in the United Arab Emirates, Thaksin, who is still widely popular in Thailand, dismissed the court's verdict as politically-motivated.

Thailand's Red Shirts
Supporters of former PM Thaksin Shinawatra, ousted in bloodless coup in 2006

Formally known as the United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD)

Formed in 2008 as a counter to the anti-Thaksin People's Alliance for Democracy, also known as the Yellow Shirts

Members are mainly rural workers from outside Bangkok, especially in the rural north and northeast, but also has support from students and other political activists

Group accuses the military and Thai elite of undermining democracy

"This case is very political. The court was used to get rid of a politician," he said in a speech carried on one of the satellite television channels owned by his family.

"The ruling will be a joke for the world."

Thousands of troops and police were deployed across the country ahead of the ruling amid fears that it would trigger renewed protests by Thaksin's so-called red shirt supporters.

Al Jazeera's Wayne Hay, reporting from Bangkok, said that there was no course for Thaksin or others in his family to appeal against the verdict.

"This is the final court in Thailand, the supreme court," he said.

"There was talk that he would go to an international court, but it has been found that he has no right to do that because he does not have the support of the state of Thailand."

The release of the verdict was timed to minimise any impact to Thailand's stock market, which will close for the long weekend before the announcement, and not resume until Tuesday.

The political crisis triggered by Thaksin's ouster has left Thailand and its economy in a state of unrest and uncertainty over the past four years, with frequent protests, airport blockades and three changes in government in 15 months.

The pro-Thaksin movement, known formally as the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship, has called for a peaceful "million man march" in Bangkok on March 14.
 
I hope alternative leader look into PAPPY asset for possible sign of corruptions too. That one is a must thing to do once PAP is toppled.
 
So, the court adopted the Buddhism's middle way in solving this hot potato. Like the Thai says, kho la khreng...Chit lang chit pua...kam cheng chia bueh sua...

But, that still leaves Thaksin with enough ammos to stoke whatever on his mind...ummm...
Time out for both sides at the moment but this could be the calm before the perfect storm...
 
Wonderful story... Thaksin deserve it!! WAHAHHAHHAH!!!!
 
Wonderful story... Thaksin deserve it!! WAHAHHAHHAH!!!!

Why is that ? You are just a fucking schadenfreude who thrives on other's miseries. Maybe they should just deport you before the coming world cup.

Did Thaksin robbed your ladyboy's sexchange operation's fee ?
Is he the reason why you still poked into a kar cherng kang and not a faked cheebai ?
 
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HOORAY !!!
I STILL GOT PLENTY OF MONEY.
ENOUGH TO START A REVOLUTION.
I AM A REBEL WITH A CAUSE NOW.
SADHU
SADHU
SADHU...
 
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The assets case is not the first of its kind in Thailand. Four such cases have been decided since the country switched from absolute monarchy to constitutional monarchy in 1932.

Previous cases involved former prime ministers Sarit Thanarat, Thanom Kittikachorn and Chatichai Choonhavan and former public health minister Rakkiat Sukthana.

Field Marshal Sarit staged a coup to topple the government of Field Marshal Plaek Pibulsongkram on Sept 16, 1957, and was appointed a military guardian of the capital.

Pote Sarasin became a caretaker prime minister on Sept 21, 1957. His government lasted three months and was succeeded by the government of Field Marshal Thanom on Jan 1, 1958.

After nine months and 20 days in office, Field Marshal Thanom resigned as prime minister amid rumours Field Marshal Sarit would stage another coup. Field Marshal Sarit formed a government on Feb 9, 1959, and imposed a dictatorial administration by exercising Section 17 of the constitution which allowed imprisonment of criminal suspects without trial.

The government of Field Marshal Sarit lasted about four years until his death in 1963. Field Marshal Thanom returned to the premiership and formed a government on Dec 9, 1963.

On Feb 14, 1964, Field Marshal Sarit's children, Chawee, Maj Settha and Lt Somchai Thanarat, and his wife Thanpuying Vichitra Thanarat entered a legal dispute over who would become the executor of his estate.

The legal battle unearthed long lists of Field Marshal Sarit's assets and prompted Field Marshal Thanom to form a committee to examine them.

The investigation found Field Marshal Sarit had spent state money and income from the Government Lottery Office on "secret services" which were actually grants to himself and his associates. The grants amounted to about 2.8 billion baht and only about 604 million baht was retrieved and confiscated. The government of Field Marshal Thanom was ended by the Oct 14, 1973 student protests.

The government of his successor, Sanya Dharmasakti, seized his assets and formed a committee to examine them.

The committee found Field Marshal Thanom and relatives were unusually rich to the tune of 434 million baht.

Mr Sanya confiscated the sum under the constitution on Aug 1, 1974. Field Marshal Thanom lost an attempt to retrieve the wealth at the Supreme Court.

The third assets seizure case took place after the Feb 23, 1991, coup which ended the government of Gen Chatichai.

The coup-making National Peace-Keeping Council formed an asset scrutiny committee which seized the assets of 25 politicians and associates.

The committee headed by Gen Sitthi Jirarote decided to confiscate assets worth over 1.6 billion baht from 10 politicians including Gen Chatichai.

Later, the coup council managed to pass on the confiscation decision to a court.

The Supreme Court finally revoked the order, arguing that the asset scrutiny committee applied the court's authority over the case improperly.

The Rakkiat case was decided under the 1997 constitution, which was drawn up to check abuse of authority by politicians, and the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Holders of Political Positions, which tries corrupt politicians.

The court ordered the confiscation of assets worth 233 million baht from Rakkiat in 2003 after finding him guilty of accumulating wealth through abuse of authority as public health minister.

The court ordered the auction of Rakkiat's 42 land plots in four provinces.


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Mine ? My loss ? Errm...46,000,000,000 bahts niania...
But I am still rich enough to wreck havocs if I wanted to.
 
If I were Thaksin, I would be a happy man. At least I can get the rest of the money rather than have the whole chunk stuck. SO he gets his US$900M back. This is $900M free and clear (Bangkok says that that is money he legally made) and he can do what he wants with it. I think this is a deal between Thaksin and Bangkok. If I were Thaksin I would take the $$ and walk. Can always make more money.....

In today's economy $900M is a lot of $$
 
If I were Thaksin, I would be a happy man. At least I can get the rest of the money rather than have the whole chunk stuck. SO he gets his US$900M back.

In today's economy $900M is a lot of $$

Yeah. He is a businessman and will cut the loss. But will this also brings out the worst in him in the longer run ? After the king is gone, everthing in Thailand will be up for grab. With that money and an astute mind like his, anybody who write him off will be at their own perils.


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Verdict on Thaksin billions unlikely to heal divide

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Mr Thaksin still enjoys a loyal following in Thailand


Thailand's Supreme Court has confiscated much of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's family fortune, but, as the BBC's Vaudine England in Bangkok reports, the verdict is unlikely to end his appeal or heal the country's deep political schisms.

Back in 1976, Dr Weng Tojirakarn was a young student leader in protests that ended with the military opening fire and killing many of his fellow demonstrators.

He fled to the hills, where Thailand's Communist Party offered a haven for many in the radical intelligentsia of the time.

Not necessarily communist, several of those activists have since become leaders of the red shirts, like Dr Weng. Some, such as Chaturon Chaisang, were even members of former Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's cabinets.

Equal rights

For men such as these, the Supreme Court verdict against Mr Thaksin's private wealth is of no importance whatsoever to the struggle.

"Mr Thaksin is just only one person in this country," says Dr Weng.

"He may be an ex-prime minister but he is nothing to do with what I'm fighting for, because I'm fighting for the genuine democratic system in Thailand."

Dr Weng wants a system where "real political power must be in the hands of the people and all man is created equal, every citizen must have an equal political right and also economic chance".

"But that never happened in Thailand," he says, adding that he looks to Britain or Japan for states where the monarch is supreme and democracy thrives.

"I'm not fighting for Mr Thaksin. I'm fighting for my country to be a genuine democratic system," says Dr Weng.

To that end, Dr Weng shuts up his small, poorly decorated doctor's clinic off a frantic highway in northern Bangkok every weekend and drives back to communities of the rural poor he once ministered to as a radical young student.

There he and other leaders of the red-shirted United Front for Democracy (UDD) hold what they calls schools, to raise the political consciousness of the people.

The arguments put across and discussed with varied communities focus on the injustice of the coup in 2006 that deposed a freely elected leader.

Genie released

These lessons have added pungency as they are delivered to communities that voted for Mr Thaksin, once they realised he was going to fund small businesses, provide cheap healthcare, and generally support his voter base beyond the urban centres.

To many in Thailand, that style of governance - where a shirt-sleeved Mr Thaksin, without pomp, would tour rural areas and listen to people's problems - was new.


THAKSIN TIMELINE

2001: Elected prime minister
19 Sept 2006: Ousted in military coup
25 Sept 2006: Corruption investigation begins
11 June 2007: Thaksin family assets frozen
25 Aug 2008: Prosecutors ask Supreme Court to seize frozen assets
21 Oct 2008: Sentenced in absentia to two years for conflict of interest in land deal
26 Feb 2010: Supreme Court seizes $1.4bn (£910m) of Thaksin family's contested assets



But to some Thais - who cannot imagine that their servants should have a vote equal in power to their own - it was threatening.

Their preferred exercise of power has been through a strong military, monarchist bureaucracy - a system Mr Thaksin cut through.

The anti-Thaksin yellow shirt protesters who helped usher in the current government of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejajiva openly spoke of wanting a new system where some people's votes counted for more than others.

This is why a billionaire businessman and his cronies can be in the same alliance as men such as Dr Weng, all of them convinced they are fighting for genuine democracy.

"This is a united front - meaning we have to co-operate where we can co-operate. What we can't co-operate on, we put aside," says Dr Weng.

Analysts are agreed that many Thais are more politically aware these days.

They call it the genie that cannot be put back in the bottle, or the toothpaste that cannot be squeezed back into the tube.

They also note that the wellsprings of anger and the sense of disenfranchisement engendered by the 2006 coup are only growing deeper and more bitter with each setback to the man they regard as the only one who cared for them.

For this reason, any hope Mr Abhisit's government might have that the latest court ruling against Mr Thaksin will fatally weaken his support base, could be in vain.

'No rabble'

Some argue that a possible lack of money to fund further red shirt demonstrations could lose it numbers and damage its ability to stage massive protests capable of bringing down the current government.



Others argue the anger will only grow and fester, becoming more dangerous over time, with or without the money.

So far the red shirts are holding to their line that they are not the violent rabble the government calls them, and their decision to hold off on any protests until the middle of March is a principled one to reinforce their point that they are not lackeys of one rich man and his wealth.

Others say they have postponed the protests because they could not be sure of getting adequate numbers to the capital - an ability likely to be diminished with the prospect of less funding in the future.

Dr Weng and his colleagues say they have been developing a red shirt movement without the benefit of any of these frozen funds.

Mr Thaksin will not be alone in seeing the judicial actions as "very political". He insists he is innocent, and a fighter, and will not be deterred.

The latest court verdict against him appears unlikely to change the political balance much either way.

Nor will it heal the divisions in this country. Brought to the boil by Mr Thaksin, many of those divisions long predate his emergence, and are likely to outlast him.



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Bangkok supporters of fugitive former Thai prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra cry at the supreme court's decision to seize his frozen assets.


The verdict was delivered under extraordinary security, with more than 20,000 armed riot police and soldiers on the streets of Bangkok. The judges were driven to the court in bulletproof vans while schools and offices near the court complex were closed.

While Thaksin supporters wept openly at the verdict at small rallies in other parts of the city, the feared violent protests did not happen overnight.

The former prime minister, speaking via a videolink from Dubai, described the ruling as "very political" and "a joke for the world", and vowed to continue his fight against the Thai government.

The judges ruled that of 76bn baht (1.5bn GBP) seized from Thaksin after he was forced from power, 46bn baht was earned through "inappropriate means". He will be returned 30bn baht.

"To seize all the money would be unfair since some of it was made before Thaksin became prime minister," the court said.Thaksin was prime minister from 2001 to 2006, when he was overthrown in a military coup.

He was convicted in 2008 over a corrupt land deal and sentenced to two years' jail, but fled the country.

He now lives in exile in Dubai, but remains hugely popular with Thailand's rural poor.

A series of huge rallies in Bangkok, which organisers claim will bring one million protesters onto the streets, is planned for mid-March.

Red-shirt leaders claim they will topple Thailand's beleaguered coalition government, led by British-born, Eton- and Oxford-educated Abhisit Vejjajiva, within a week of beginning their protests.



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Thaksin Shinawatra, is flanked by his daughters, Paetongtarn, left, and Pintongta, right.
 
opposition in singapore should take a hard look at thaksin. this is your future, if you dare to win the general election. It is better to wait for society and USA gov to catch up with your dreams before you start to flap your wings and fly. without control of judges, army and police, your dream will be over even before it began.
 
Thaksin's been MULCTED. Just learnt a new word today.:D


mulct

http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday
Word of the DayFriday, February 26, 2010

mulct\MULKT\ , noun;
1.A fine or penalty.

transitive verb:

1.To punish for an offense or misdemeanor by imposing a fine or demanding a forfeiture.
2.To obtain by fraud or deception.
3.To defraud; to swindle.

How Apt, this is today's wordoftheday from dictionary.com.


Thaksin to cope with 'unfair' verdict

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Ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra spoke shortly after the Supreme Court handed down the verdict in assets seizure case, saying that it was ''unfair''.

The court ruled to confiscate 46.37 billion baht, and allowed him to have Bt30.72 bn.

He said earlier he would issue a reaction from the United Arab Emirates.

Thaksin began by apologising to his family. He said his ex-wife Khunying Potjaman na Pombejra had told him long ago that they had enough money and that he did not need to get involved in politics.

He then said that his red-shirt supporters can be angry about the verdict, but they must act rationally and avoid violence.

He also swore that he would die within seven days if it was true he gained his assets illegally.

Again, he slammed the elite bureaucrats, known as amataya, during his video link.

Earlier today, a grim looking Thaksin addressed opposition Puea Thai members at the party's headquarters via video link, saying he and his family would be able to cope, regardless of the verdict on the assets seizure case.

His address was about five minutes long.

"Today, I'm more heartened and ready for any outcome of the verdict. My family and I are prepared to deal with the imminent situation," Thaksin said.

"I would like to thank the leaders and core members of the Puea Thai party and hope that everyone will be rational when listening to the court's ruling."

He said he would like all Puea Thai members to continue working for the country and its people.

After Thaksin ended his address, the red-shirt supporters of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) cheered and clapped the deposed prime minister.

Former prime minister Somchai Wongsawat said Thaksin had legal advisers on international law should he decide to take his assets seizure case to the International Court of Justice.

Mr Somchai, who is Thaksin's brother in-law, spoke during his visit to Puea Thai Party headquarters, where Thaksin supporters gathered to listen to the verdict.

"If the court rules that all the frozen assets must be seized, I believe Thaksin could find a way out he still has other businesses,” Mr Somchai said.

Asked if Thaksin would have a chance to return to Thailand, Mr Somchai said everyone would like to return home but no one would want to return and be put jail.

He said Thaksin may think that he could be imprisoned for other cases such as the Ratchadaphisek land deal.

Thaksin faces a two-year jail sentence for conflict of interest while in office for abetting his then-wife's purchase of state land the Ratchadaphisek area at below market value.

Mr Somchai said he had a phone conversation with Thaksin and both of them agreed that the assets being judged today were acquired before his brother-in-law took office.

He said Thaksin had to receive fair treatment.

"If the verdict is out and justified then society will accept it," he said.

The assets verdict will have no impact on the planned activities of the pro-Thaksin United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), Mr Somchai said.

The UDD leaders announced earlier that the red-shirts would hold a mass rallies on March 12-14 to force the government to dissolve the House and put an end to the role of the elite bureaucrats, known as the Amataya.

UDD prominent figure Jatuporn Prompan called on the red-shirt supporters to be rational while listening to the Supreme Court's verdict on the assets seizure case, and affirmed that the UDD will not organise protests today.

"Regardless of the ruling, the red-shirts will not protest at venues like the Supreme Court or the state-run National Broadcasting Television (NBT), Mr Jatuporn said.


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Thaksin: I'll accept the verdict​


A grim looking Thaksin Shinawatra addressed opposition Puea Thai members at the party's headquarters via video link on Friday, saying he and his family would be able to cope, regardless of the verdict on the assets seizure case.

The Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Holders of Political Positions is ruling on whether the frozen assets worth 76.6 billion baht of the Shinawatra family should be seized by the state.

Thaksin's address was about five minutes long.

"Today, I'm more heartened and ready for any outcome of the verdict. My family and I are prepared to deal with the imminent situation," Thaksin said.

"I would like to thank the leaders and core members of the Puea Thai party and hope that everyone will be rational when listening to the court's ruling."

He said he would like all Puea Thai members to continue working for the country and its people.

After Thaksin ended his address, the red-shirt supporters of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) cheered and clapped the deposed prime minister.



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gauntlet thrown
discord sown
not if but when
hrmz..no Rama 10 ?
:eek::eek::eek:
 
Why is that ? You are just a fucking schadenfreude who thrives on other's miseries. Maybe they should just deport you before the coming world cup.

Did Thaksin robbed your ladyboy's sexchange operation's fee ?
Is he the reason why you still poked into a kar cherng kang and not a faked cheebai ?

His downfall started when he mixed with sinkies. I have said this many times in this forum, stay away from sinkies at all cost. If he didn't sell his shin crop to a sinkie and friendly with a sinkie, he will be the most respected PM in Thailand.

I am very disappointed with him. There are so many people he can be friendly with and he chose a sinkie. He is just very very unlucky.

The Thais will not tolerate with any sinkie behavior and i respect them for that.
 
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If the govt want to close my radio station, the have to kill me and kill my supporters. At 2:24.

Sinkies, learn from the Thais.. They have the huge fucking balls to deal with govt. The will die to correct their country and beliefs. That is why i respect the thais so much.

They do not hide behind the forum, hiding their balls and KPKB, they take action and show the middle finger to the govt.

And they will not bow down to ang mor tua kee, the ang mor love the Thais ladies and respect them.

I saw a number of times, the Thai woman scold and hammer the ang mor in the public. The Thai do not own the foreigners any living and tell them not to fuck around with them in their country.

The sinkie losers here will say they sell sex here and that, but they are poor and need ways to feed their family

and that is considered better than if you compare to sinkies who sell their soul to the govt who let the govt screw their ass even though they know it that the govt is wrong.
 
I am right, sinkies has no fucking balls, especially those posting around here.
 
I am right, sinkies has no fucking balls, especially those posting around here.



I wonder if u actually see the irony of this seeing that you practically live in this forum and is a sinkee unless u admit u have no balls. :rolleyes:
 
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