Thailand delays $724m China submarine deal

[Hypocrite-The]

Did China learn secrets from French sub attack?
Most people were fast asleep in their beds in 2015 when a French submarine named the Safir apparently sent half a US navy carrier battle group to Davey Jones’ locker.

Didn’t hear about it? That’s because it was just another exercise, one of many military operations that never make the mainstream media.

According to a special report by Lyle J. Goldstein of The National Interest, the revelation that a US Navy aircraft carrier group as powerful as the Theodore Roosevelt could be so vulnerable to a nuclear sub — and French, at that! — did not make many waves, and no mention was made by the many attentive online defense analysts.

The report allegedly appeared and then quickly disappeared — no doubt France didn’t want to ruffle the feathers of an ally as powerful as the US.

However, the Chinese defense media does not miss much — analysts are always diligently probing for cracks in the US defense shield’s armor.

In fact, a special issue of 兵工科技 [Ordnance Industry Science and Technology] (2015, no. 8) covered this “event,” featuring an interview with Chinese Submarine Academy professor 迟国仓 [Chi Guocang] as its cover story under the title: “A Single Nuclear Submarine ‘Sinks’ Half of an Aircraft Carrier Battle Group.”

Prof. Chi makes clear that an exercise can hardly be compared to real combat and that, moreover, he evaluates US Navy anti-submarine warfare (ASW) to be a “highly efficient” system comprised of multiple layers of defense for an aircraft carrier, the report said.

Yet, he concludes that the French report “有比较大的可信度” [has a reasonably high degree of credibility].

At the outset, Prof. Chi asserts that submarines are the “克星” [nemesis] of aircraft carriers. Over the course of World War II, no less than seventeen aircraft carriers were sunk by submarines on both sides, the report said.

So, how is it that the French Navy was able to penetrate the formidable American ASW screen around the aircraft carrier USS Roosevelt, allegedly “sinking” the big deck and some of its escorts too?

Prof. Chi offers many hypotheses, but focuses in particular on the small displacement of the French submarine. He observes that the Rubis-class submarine is the world’s smallest nuclear submarine (2,670 tons submerged) and that could make it more difficult to detect, the report said.

Meanwhile, the Los Angeles-class submarines protecting the aircraft carrier have about three times the displacement — placing them at a distinct disadvantage, the report said.

Prof. Chi makes note of the comparative weaknesses of diesel submarines. However, he explains that very significant US air ASW assets are quite reliant on radar detections of submarines on or near the ocean surface, the report said.

Against nuclear submarines, therefore, he concludes that the air asset ASW search is “如‘大海捞针’一样难” [as difficult as fishing a needle from the vast ocean].

Other points include the observation that the larger the battle group, the easier it is to track this more conspicuous target at long distances, the report said.

Prof. Chi also notes that the employment of ASW weaponry can inadvertently aid a submarine’s escape following an attack, because the weapons may significantly complicate the acoustic environment, thus hindering searches for the attacking submarine, the report said.

Another possible explanation for the skillful (simulated) attack of the Safir might be the French commander’s capable use of naturally occurring complex hydro-acoustic conditions.

Prof. Chi describes a long list of such conditions, including well known phenomena such as “convergence zones,” “sound speed gradients,” as well as the more mysterious “cold eddy” [冷涡] and “afternoon effect” [午后较应].

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[Hypocrite-The]

 

[glockman]

@glockman why @steffychun want to suck your cock?

That's the part I don't understand. Waiting for his clarification. I didn't ask for it, and I will only accept the mouth of chiobus. Not suka suka let anyone suck my clean and handsome cock.

 

[blackmondy]

Propulsion system can be heard on sonar. China submarine very low tech.

US is best UK France and Russia also good

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mi...as-nuclear-subs-too-noisy-for-their-own-good/


Are China’s Nuclear Subs Too Noisy for Their Own Good?
An incident in the East China Sea has observers wondering if China’s nuke boats have a noise problem.

BY KYLE MIZOKAMI
JAN 29, 2018

JAPAN MINISTRY OF DEFENSE
Earlier this month, a Chinese nuclear-powered attack submarine surfaced in the East China Sea. The submarine, flying a huge Chinese flag, surfaced after being followed by Japanese naval forces. The incident raises a question: Are Chinese nuclear submarines too loud for their own good?
China’s People’s Liberation Army Navy operates between six and thirteen Shang class nuclear attack submarines. Also known as the Type 093 class, the Shang boats are 361 feet long, displace 7,716 tons of water submerged, and can dive to up to 2,296 feet. The submarines are powered by two pressurized water nuclear reactors, allowing them to make 30 knots submerged, and have six 533-millimeter torpedo tubes for anti-ship and anti-submarine attacks and vertical launch silos for land attack cruise missiles.
On January 12th, a Shang-class submarine surfaced within the Exclusive Economic Zone around Japan’s Senkaku islands. (See image above.) The islands, which China claims and calls the Diaoyu islands, have been a bone of contention between the two countries since 2010. The two countries mostly enforce their competing claims by sailing coast guard vessels near the islands. This was the first time a submarine is known to have operated in the area.
The South China Morning Post, in an article on the incident, states the Shang-class submarine involved in the incident had been followed for the previous two days by ships and aircraft of the Maritime Self Defense Force, Japan’s navy. The submarine operated submerged within 24 miles of the Senkaku islands, technically Japanese waters. It then moved out of Japanese waters, surfaced and proudly flew a large Chinese flag, and went home. The incident led the SCMP to ask whether the submarine surfaced because it had been detected or if the event was a publicity stunt on behalf of the Chinese government?
In the world of submarines, quietness is everything and can make the difference between being the hunter or the hunted. The Shang class, according to Chinese sources, is about as quiet as the improved Los Angeles class attack submarines, nuclear attack boats produced for the U.S. Navy between 1985 and 1996. The U.S. Office of Naval Intelligence estimates the Shang is noisier than the Russian Victor III class submarines, 25 of which were produced between 1977 and 1991. Only four remain in service today, replaced by quieter, more modern designs.
Being only twenty years behind U.S. subs may not sound like a bad place to be, especially for a rising power like China, but the U.S. made some major advances in submarine quieting technology during the late 1980s and 1990s. The latest Virginia class submarines are so quiet they’re described as “quieter at 25 knots than the Los Angeles class at pierside.”

A Chinese Navy submarine in Hong Kong in 2004, flying a much smaller and more typically sized national flag than the one recently flown in the East China Sea.
The SCMP’s experts are divided as to what caused the sub to surface, with some thinking it was intentional and others disagreeing. But clearly, if Japanese air and naval forces had been able to track the submarine for two days before the surfacing, the Shang class is too noisy. A more suitable question might be, was it the Chinese government’s intention for the submarine to surface, or was the submarine forced to surface due to technical problems?
Either is a possibility, as China’s military is prone to excessively displays—such as flying an unusually large flag the first time a nuclear-powered submarine sails near the Senkaku/Diaoyu islands—and China’s military equipment, particularly complex systems, often don’t meet Western standards for safety and quality. In 2003, all 70 Chinese sailors aboard a Chinese diesel electric submarine died during a training accident. The submarine reportedly drifted for days before a fishing boat came upon the lifeless vessel.
Regardless, the fact that Japanese forces were able to track China’s latest nuclear attack submarine continuously for two days does not exactly instill confidence in the submarine’s abilities. Still, a public failure like this does have an upside. As one SCMP expert pointed out, “It’s not so bad that they’ve been exposed, it could push the Chinese to work harder on making the submarines quieter.” And China, which is in the middle of an unprecedented military modernization, is undoubtedly working on a design to replace the Shang-class.

No point to have silent submarines for Tiongs. It is in their fucking nature to talk loudly and their NMSL chanting will echo thru the ocean.

 

[capamerica]

Did China learn secrets from French sub attack?
Most people were fast asleep in their beds in 2015 when a French submarine named the Safir apparently sent half a US navy carrier battle group to Davey Jones’ locker.

Didn’t hear about it? That’s because it was just another exercise, one of many military operations that never make the mainstream media.

According to a special report by Lyle J. Goldstein of The National Interest, the revelation that a US Navy aircraft carrier group as powerful as the Theodore Roosevelt could be so vulnerable to a nuclear sub — and French, at that! — did not make many waves, and no mention was made by the many attentive online defense analysts.

The report allegedly appeared and then quickly disappeared — no doubt France didn’t want to ruffle the feathers of an ally as powerful as the US.

However, the Chinese defense media does not miss much — analysts are always diligently probing for cracks in the US defense shield’s armor.

In fact, a special issue of 兵工科技 [Ordnance Industry Science and Technology] (2015, no. 8) covered this “event,” featuring an interview with Chinese Submarine Academy professor 迟国仓 [Chi Guocang] as its cover story under the title: “A Single Nuclear Submarine ‘Sinks’ Half of an Aircraft Carrier Battle Group.”

Prof. Chi makes clear that an exercise can hardly be compared to real combat and that, moreover, he evaluates US Navy anti-submarine warfare (ASW) to be a “highly efficient” system comprised of multiple layers of defense for an aircraft carrier, the report said.

Yet, he concludes that the French report “有比较大的可信度” [has a reasonably high degree of credibility].

At the outset, Prof. Chi asserts that submarines are the “克星” [nemesis] of aircraft carriers. Over the course of World War II, no less than seventeen aircraft carriers were sunk by submarines on both sides, the report said.

So, how is it that the French Navy was able to penetrate the formidable American ASW screen around the aircraft carrier USS Roosevelt, allegedly “sinking” the big deck and some of its escorts too?

Prof. Chi offers many hypotheses, but focuses in particular on the small displacement of the French submarine. He observes that the Rubis-class submarine is the world’s smallest nuclear submarine (2,670 tons submerged) and that could make it more difficult to detect, the report said.

Meanwhile, the Los Angeles-class submarines protecting the aircraft carrier have about three times the displacement — placing them at a distinct disadvantage, the report said.

Prof. Chi makes note of the comparative weaknesses of diesel submarines. However, he explains that very significant US air ASW assets are quite reliant on radar detections of submarines on or near the ocean surface, the report said.

Against nuclear submarines, therefore, he concludes that the air asset ASW search is “如‘大海捞针’一样难” [as difficult as fishing a needle from the vast ocean].

Other points include the observation that the larger the battle group, the easier it is to track this more conspicuous target at long distances, the report said.

Prof. Chi also notes that the employment of ASW weaponry can inadvertently aid a submarine’s escape following an attack, because the weapons may significantly complicate the acoustic environment, thus hindering searches for the attacking submarine, the report said.

Another possible explanation for the skillful (simulated) attack of the Safir might be the French commander’s capable use of naturally occurring complex hydro-acoustic conditions.

Prof. Chi describes a long list of such conditions, including well known phenomena such as “convergence zones,” “sound speed gradients,” as well as the more mysterious “cold eddy” [冷涡] and “afternoon effect” [午后较应].

Asia Times Financial is now live. Linking accurate news, insightful analysis and local knowledge with the ATF China Bond 50 Index, the world's first benchmark cross sector Chinese Bond Indices. Read ATF now.

You cannot sink a US Carrier with Submarine Torpedos. Hull is designed to withstand torpedo attack

 

[Peiweh]

We should congratulate Thailand for their good taste. PRC hardware is shit

 

[capamerica]

Ranking for Attacking Submarine

China not even considered, all garbage

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Here’s what you need to know about the US Navy’s new deadly (and expensive) attack subs

The Block III Virginia-class attack submarine Delaware participates in sea trials in the Atlantic Ocean. The Navy's newest block is officially on order as of December 2019. (Courtesy of Huntington Ingalls Industries via U.S. Navy)
WASHINGTON — The U.S. Navy inked a deal with General Dynamics Electric Boat on Dec. 2 to be the lead contractor for the newest iteration of the Virginia-class attack submarine.
The largest shipbuilding contract in the history of the service — in excess of $22 billion — the Navy has big plans for Block V. It is destined to be a true multimission submarine, with a strike capability and the ability to delivery large-diameter unmanned underwater vehicles in addition to the more traditional surveillance mission.
Here’s are the four things you need to know about the vessel:
1. A bigger boat
Most of Block V is going to be bigger (much bigger) than its older sisters in the class. Of the nine — potentially 10 — boats in the class, eight of them will have 84-foot sections plugged into the hull that will include four large-diameter tubes rated for seven Tomahawks each. In addition to the 12 in the bow, that means each Block V will have the capacity for 40 cruise missiles.
But it’s not just the traditional Tomahawk land-attack missiles that will be stuffed in the payload module. Submariners are envisioning a whole range of missions for the big tubes, such as:

• Deploying large-diameter unmanned undersea vehicles for various missions.
• Launching hypersonic prompt-strike missiles.
• Launching Tomahawk’s new maritime strike iteration against ships in addition to the existing Harpoon missile.
• Torpedoes.
• Really anything they can get to fit in there that could benefit from being deployed off a submarine.

A rendered image of the Virginia Block V attack submarine, destined to change the submarine community. (Courtesy of General Dynamics)
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2. Responsibilities galore
Because the Navy designed a lot of versatility in the platform, the Block V will act as a Swiss Army knife for undersea warfare, taking on a range of missions that traditionally have gone to the retiring guided-missile submarines, or SSGNs, said Bryan Clark, a retired submarine officer and analyst for the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments.
That’s going to require a cultural change inside the submarine community, Clark said.
“The Block V will be a marked difference in terms of the concept of operations for a multimission ship,” he said. “For strike, that mission has largely been sent off to SSGNs: They’ve focused on Tomahawk missions and SEAL delivery; the rest of the attack submarines have focused on focused on traditional intelligence-gathering missions.
“With the introduction of Block V, those missions are going to expand to a larger percentage of the force.”
Much of that is already part of submariner training, but the emphasis will have to be increased, Clark predicted.
“Submariners were always trained on Tomahawk missions, anti-ship missions and swimmer delivery: Those are all things you train for in case you have to do them,” he said. “But with the advent of Block V, those missions are going to have to be a bigger part of submariner training. And with [the] Tomahawk maritime strike missile coming into the fleet, they are going have an anti-ship mission alongside the older [Los Angeles-class] 688s having the torpedo-tube launched harpoon.
“So in a lot of ways the submarine community is going back in [the] direction it was during the Cold War — it was a much more expansive mission then back then. Then It narrowed with the introduction of the SSGN. Now its set to expand again.”
3. Quiet
The Block V incorporates what they Navy calls an acoustic superiority program, which is basically a comprehensive effort to both improve listening capabilities to find other ships and submarines as well as make the submarine much quieter in the water.
The improvements include a new vertical array, coatings and machinery-quieting technology throughout the boat.

Sailors assigned to the Virginia-class attack submarine Indiana secure mooring lines to the sub. (MC2 Sonja Wickard/U.S. Navy)
4. It’s expensive as hell
As one might expect for a big multi-mission attack submarine, the Virginia Block V is mind-bogglingly expensive. With a total value of the program sitting at $35 billion when government- furnished equipment is added, each sub will cost in excess of $3.5 billion per hull, should the Navy buy all 10 of the Block Vs.
The Navy has recognized that with the proliferation of long-range anti-ship missiles, the service will need to put more missiles than ever in the air to strike launchers inland and to defend major assets such as aircraft carriers from attack.
But relying on submarines for the strike component is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, superior submarines mean a higher chance that the Block Vs will be able to operate inside Chinese and Russian anti-access windows — or areas where surface ships would be vulnerable. The problem is that the Navy might go bankrupt before it creates the volume of fires it would need to combat a massive missile power like China.
Jerry Hendrix, a Navy analyst with Telemus Group, explained it in an interview earlier this fall: “I think there is a powerful argument to distribute these weapons across the surface force,” he said. “If you can create a strike weapon that allows the surface force to stand outside of DF-21 and DF-26 range and shoot three-pointers from outside, then yes. To create mass and volume in the submerged force is twice to three times as expensive as it is to create that volume from the surface force.
“So there is a solid argument just from the standpoint of cost. If I was trying to create 2,000 tubes of hypersonics — which are much more massive than Tomahawks, won’t fit into a Mark 41 vertical launch system and hence will have to go into a different configuration — to create that mass in the submerged force is going to be very expensive.”
Navy leadership is increasingly looking to concepts such as a large unmanned surface combatants that could work as external missile magazines for larger manned surface combatants as a model for more affordably boosting its capacity to put missiles in the air.
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[Byebye Penis]

I am confused.
Thai Military is pro-USA, am I right?
Thai Monarchy is pro-China, am I right?
Thai PM is pro-China, am I right?


Please correct me if I am wrong

 

[kiketerm]

Thailand is turning anti-china. Apparently the kra canal and the submarines were scrapped due to the recent events with the tiongs. they are their own worst enemy

http://mizzima.com/article/big-blow-china-thailand-scraps-kra-canal-project

NEWS REGIONAL

By WION

06 September 2020

Big blow to China as Thailand scraps KRA canal project

Map of selected project variants of the Thai Canal (Photo: Wikipedia)


In a big blow to China, Thailand on Thursday announced it will scrap a Chinese led-KRA canal project under which Beijing wanted to build a bypass to the Strait of Malacca.
It also delayed the purchase of two Yuan-class S26T submarines worth $724 million highlighting China's losing grip on its key allies in Indo-Pacific Region.
Thailand took the step after facing intense pressure from its arch-rival Pheu Thai Party and the public who had raised concerns that the proposed 120-kilometre mega canal would undermine the independence of poor Southeast Asian countries like Myanmar and Cambodia, which have comparatively weak civil societies that are highly vulnerable to Chinese interference.


After the the Galwan Valley clash in Ladakh, the Indian Navy had deployed its frontline vessels along the Malacca Straits, a strategic chokepoint between the Indonesian island of Sumatra that divides the Indian and Pacific Oceans and the Malay Peninsula.
Cutting through the Isthmus of Kra in Thailand, the KRA canal project, could have been a crucial strategic asset for China, allowing the Chinese navy to move freely and quickly between its newly constructed bases in the South China Sea and the Indian Ocean.
Through the project, China could have put an end to the Malacca dilemma by bypassing the Strait of Malacca, a narrow chokepoint between the Malay Peninsula and the Indonesian island of Sumatra that divides the Indian and Pacific Oceans.
Courtesy of WION News

 

[empathizerofeatshitndie]

Why the fuck does Thailand want to buy those substandard commie rubbish? Thai submariner lives will be in danger each time they step into that piece of shit. Fucking metal coffin. They should cancel the deal and demand a 100% refund.

Dear @glockman, in my humble opinion, the Thais should buy at least one:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Taigei-class_submarine
from my beloved Japan:
sammyboy.com/threads/japans-and-taiwans-combined-armed-forces-are-stronger-than-the-prcs-according-to-the-swiss-bank-credit-suisse-haha.285080/post-3250923

 

[glockman]

Dear @glockman, in my humble opinion, the Thais should buy at least one:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Taigei-class_submarine
from my beloved Japan:
sammyboy.com/threads/japans-and-taiwans-combined-armed-forces-are-stronger-than-the-prcs-according-to-the-swiss-bank-credit-suisse-haha.285080/post-3250923

I share your opinion. The Japs have experience with building submarines, aircraft carriers, destroyers etc since almost 100 years ago! Just like the allies. To buy from chinkland is a huge mistake.

 

[syed putra]

Malaysia buying PRC ships, cancel what?

For target practice,

 

[syed putra]

I share your opinion. The Japs have experience with building submarines, aircraft carriers, destroyers etc since almost 100 years ago! Just like the allies. To buy from chinkland is a huge mistake.

Australia bought french submarines instead of nips because PM changed.

 

[mudhatter]

I've noticed whatever Stinkypura has 'mastered' somehow can be invented/mastered by Tiongkok in a jiffy.

For other areas, Tiongs take 'forever' moving at the snail like "China speed"


Examples:

Stinkypura
Stealth frigate/corvette/destroyers/surface warships - thanks to French tech transfer, stinkies learnt to manufacture and then design stealth frigate through Project Delta, that culminated in six stealth Formidable class frigates being operated by stinkypura navy today.

Subsequently stinky tech marine have displayed models of several stealth corvettes, frigates and destroyers/larger frigates. Recently, stealthy littoral mission vessels have been constructed too.

Tiongkok

Stealth frigates, destroyers and cruisers have been built with relative ease by Tiongs subsequently (but not before) in the form of Type 054A/B frigates, Type 052C/D destroyers and now Type 055 destroyers/cruisers.


Stinkypura

Has never built a submarine.



Tiongkok

We see Tiongs also struggle in churning out dozens and dozens of nuclear and diesel-electric powered submarines. Pakistan's eight Type 039 submarine orders have yet to be completed after umpteen years.

Tiong subs are noisy as hell.

At least one Tiong sub has also sunk. Creating a massive disaster along the way.




SMIC and Chartered announce alliance on 0.18-micron technology and capacity
21 Dec 2001

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Shanghai,China [2001-12-21]

Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corporation (SMIC), China's first advanced open-IC foundry, and Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing (NASDAQ: CHRT and SGX-ST: Chartered), one of the world's top three silicon foundries, today announced they have entered into an alliance. Upon execution of the detailed agreements, SMIC will receive 0.18-micron baseline logic process technology transfer and be granted patent license rights from Chartered, as Chartered will receive an equity stake and access to capacity in SMIC. Financial terms were not disclosed.

"SMIC is very pleased to be partnering with Chartered, one of the top-tier foundries in the world," said Richard Chang, president and CEO of SMIC. "SMIC is committed to its technology development, and also jointly develops advanced technologies with our partners. Working with a proven technology leader like Chartered will enable us to move quickly along the learning curve. SMIC is well-positioned to complement leading-edge foundries like Chartered with additional, value-added capacity, and customers of both companies truly stand to benefit."



Chartered-SMIC deals could propel China as a premier foundry base

By Mark LaPedus 12.21.2001



SANTA CLARA, Calif. — China has taken a giant leap forward in becoming a premier silicon foundry base in Asia: the nation's fledging IC makers will finally break the 0.25-micron barrier by moving into the 0.18-micron era.
The shift towards 0.18-micron–and below–technologies among Chinese foundry concerns could one day pose a threat for providers in Korea, Malaysia, Singapore, Taiwan, and elsewhere. And there are also signs that China will one day become the price leader in the silicon foundry arena as well.
China took a big step in upgrading its chip industry, when Singapore's Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Pte. Ltd. on Thursday said it will take an equity stake and license its 0.18-micron technology to silicon foundry startup Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp. (SMIC) of China.
Under the terms, Chartered will transfer its 0.18-micron baseline logic process technology and grant patent license rights to SMIC, in exchange for an equity stake and access to capacity. SMIC will move its fabs into 0.18-micron production by the end of 2002 (see today’s story ).
The deal is huge for SMIC and China. For years, the U.S. government has prohibited China from importing semiconductor-processing equipment that would enable that nation's IC makers to develop devices below 0.25-micron.
Now, however, fab-equipment export laws will not pose a problem for SMIC, said Joseph Xie, senior director of marketing for the Shanghai-based company. “Technically, we know how to move to 0.18-micron technology, but it will take some time,” Xie said.
In a phone interview, Xie said SMIC can extend its current 0.25-micron tools down to 0.18-micron–and below. SMIC uses 248-nm scanners from ASML Holding N.V., which are capable of 0.18- and 0.15-micron feature sizes and below, sources said.
The exposure tools from ASML and others will help China reach an important milestone: After year's of making “trailing-edge” devices, domestic semiconductor vendors can now develop more advanced chips, according to analysts.
The shift towards more advanced chip processing in China could make it more attractive for foreign chip makers to outsource their IC production in China–at the expense of foundry providers in other Asian nations, according to analysts.
China has another key advantage over rival nations: Many foreign chip makers are looking to embrace Chinese foundries in order to get a foothold in the booming China IC market, according to analysts.
For example, the Chartered-SMIC deal will give Chartered a major foothold in the China market. It also gives SMIC the ability to produce 0.18-micron chips. At present, Shanghai-based SMIC is ramping its initial fab–an 8-inch, 0.25-micron plant.
This deal may also prompt other Chinese chip makers to gain access to 0.18-micron technology as well. This includes domestic foundry players like Shanghai Grace, Shanghai Hua Hong NEC, and others.
For example, Shanghai Hua Hong NEC–a joint foundry venture between Japan's NEC Corp. and China's Hua Hong–for some time has been developing 0.35-0.25-micron chip designs, based on NEC's process technology. The chip venture also uses Nikon Inc.'s deep-UV, 248-nm scanners, which are capable of 0.18-micron processes and below, according to sources.
As a result, the nation presents some new competition in the foundry market, especially for the startups in Korea, Malaysia and elsewhere, many of which are just ramping up their own 0.18-micron processes.
China, of course, is several steps behind the foundry giants in Taiwan and Singapore, which are scrambling to ramp up their new and leading-edge 0.13-micron process technologies.

Still, Chartered, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. Ltd. and Taiwan's United Microelectronics Corp. (UMC) make the bulk of their profits in 0.18-micron wafer processing, analysts said.

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Only 19 years ago, filthy moronics Chinks from world's biggest country by population, kafir Commie stupid Jewish-ideology-brainwashed pork eating monkeys, the Tiongs had to gain tech transfer from teeny-weeny tiny dot Stinkypura.







Now Chartered sold oredi, been 11 years or so.

You see, Tiong monkeys have not yet mastered the latest gen of IC fabrication.

A good 19 years after teeny tiny red dot moronic stinky chinks had to transfer tech to the world's biggest country by population and a genuine commie shithole full of commie monkeys.




Stinkypura

Has never successfully designed and built a fighter aircraft from the ground up. The greatest achievement in this sector was upgrading, in a major way, bigly if you like, Yankee navy's old outdated Vietnam era relic A4 to A-4SU, stinkypura unique version. And TA-4SU, the training aircraft version.

Of coz, stinky slanty subhuman chinks could never have achieved this on their own like their fellow slanties like Japs Gooks or Taiwanese Fuckiens. All of those slanties had a generous dose of handholding assistance provided by their Yankee overlords for their respective fighter jet programmes in the form of F-2 fighter jets for Japs, Ching-kuo for Taiwanese Fuckiens and the likes of KF-X for Gooks today, and also TA-50 training aircrafts in the case of Gooks too. In the case of Stinkypura, the assistance was provided by Lockmart.





Tiongkok

No difference. Not a single Tiong flying/working/operational fighter aircraft has been designed and built from the ground up. Note: For this purpose, of comparison, we don't consider planes that are operational only within the PLA and nowhere else in the world, as operational. Commie propaganda and all. Only when an aircraft has been verified to be operational on foreign soil, in a foreign military, can we be assured of its crash records, its safety, performance envelope and actual lifetime endurance.


Most aircrafts were direct copies/imitations of Soviet airframes, with as recent iterations as the J11/J15/J16 copying Russkie Flankers.

Even their own 'indigenous' J-10 has not yet been exported anywhere around the world, yet, and of course, the airframe bears great resemblance to the Zionist initiated "Lavi" fighter aircraft project. This "Lavi" fighter aircraft itself bears a great resemblance to the very popular, cheap and mass produced single engine F-16 fighter jet save for the use of canards and intakes in the design of the Lavi prototype.



Stinkypura

Has yet to design develop and produce any aeroengine, whether low-bypass fighter jet engines, considered somewhat easier to develop and produce due to their less stringent requirements or high-bypass transport/passenger plane engines, considered somewhat more difficult to develop and produce due to their more stringent requirements for any domestic companies or institutes.

Mostly involved in MRO, developing and applying MRO techniques and manufacturing critical parts such as fan blades, turbine disks, vents, cold and hot parts, castings, exhausts, impellers, shrouds, valves, and others.


Tiongkok

True to expectations, Tiongs have yet to successfully design, develop and mass produce a single reliable aeroengine of any sort. Low bypass fighter jet engines or high bypass fighter jet engines. None. Not a single one.


Stinkypura

Supposedly, the only producer of PZN-PT single crystals is in Stinkypura. This is opposed to the more popular but less capable PMN-PT crystals.


Tiongkok

True to expectations, Tiongs have managed to rope in Stinky assistance and will probably start producing PZN-PT single crystals too.


Stinkypura

Developed and produced small arms ammunition towed and self propelled howitzer, IFV, AFV, APC and UGV. No problems there.

Tiongkok

Tiongs, too, have developed and produced small arms ammunition towed self propelled howitzer. IFV, AFV, APC, UGV, UAV have been developed. Also MLRS, ballistic missiles and air to air missiles, anti tank guided missiles. short and medium range surface to air missile.




There are just way too many 'coincidences' for these to be have happened merely due to chance, or randomness, if you like.

 

[eatshitndie]

1st group of tourists arrives in thighland after 6.9 months. where do you guess they cum from?