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Tea is another Hokkiens’ contribution to the world

AhMeng

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Hokkien's contribution to language... :biggrin:

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ginfreely

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KNN tiu lah what teh KNN
You Cantonese slut is so jealous of honest Hokkiens achievements. What are you Cantonese well known for in the past? Ganged up with angmohs to sell opium to harm fellow chinese and of course Cantonese pirates coalition.
 

AhMeng

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You Cantonese slut is so jealous of honest Hokkiens achievements. What are you Cantonese well known for in the past? Ganged up with angmohs to sell opium to harm fellow chinese and of course Cantonese pirates coalition.
Sounds legit :thumbsup:
 

ginfreely

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Lan Jiao Lah!



Mr Teh Tarik is Ah Neh OK?

CCB Gin faster go IMH!
Hahaha son of whore faster go jump for wrongly accusing me AGAIN. I found the proof already. Teh is confirmed 闽南语。Oops I am right again. Shiok!

https://www.zhihu.com/question/22832071
因为在闽南话里茶的发音是“te”,荷兰和西班牙殖民者就取了这个音。因为16世纪和17世纪初基本是荷兰独霸南亚,东南亚贸易,“te”这个音就被西班牙,法国,德国,意大利,英国等国家沿用下来,并且带到了他们各自的殖民地。
 

ginfreely

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Hahaha son of whore faster go jump for wrongly accusing me AGAIN. I found the proof already. Teh is confirmed 闽南语。Oops I am right again. Shiok!

https://www.zhihu.com/question/22832071
因为在闽南话里茶的发音是“te”,荷兰和西班牙殖民者就取了这个音。因为16世纪和17世纪初基本是荷兰独霸南亚,东南亚贸易,“te”这个音就被西班牙,法国,德国,意大利,英国等国家沿用下来,并且带到了他们各自的殖民地。
LOL More proof!

https://m.guancha.cn/global-news/2018_01_13_443028.shtml

茶这个字在汉语中写法都是一样的,但在不同方言中的读音不同,在闽南话中,它的发音类似“te”,闽南语是在中国沿海省份福建所说的方言,注意,这里的关键词是“沿海”。

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资料图:清代茶叶贸易(孔子学院图)​

这种沿海方言的发音由荷兰人带到了欧洲,在17世纪,他们是欧亚间最主要的茶叶贸易者,正如《世界语言结构地图集》(The World Atlas of Language Structures)所解释的那样。荷兰在东亚使用的主要港口位于福建和台湾,这两个地方,“茶”的发音都是“te”,荷兰东印度公司向欧洲大规模输送茶叶,这才有了法语中的“thé”,德语中的“tee”和英语中的“tea”。

但最先到亚洲的并不是荷兰人,而是葡萄牙人,他们也是最先把台湾命名为“福莫萨”(Formosa)的人。葡萄牙人的贸易据点福建,而是澳门,澳门使用的是chá这个说法。这就是为什么葡萄牙是欧洲唯一一个不说“te”而说“cha"的地方。
 

ginfreely

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Triple confirmed! Wow I made such a big discovery on Hokkiens and tea from learning languages Spanish French German Malay etc. LOL

https://www.google.com.my/url?sa=i&...aw0Z_9xTw34cQlo0UoeexFYI&ust=1547759154947045

Tea if by sea, cha if by land: Why the world only has two words for tea
With a few minor exceptions, there are really only two ways to say “tea” in the world. One is like the English term— in Spanish and tee in Afrikaans are two examples. The other is some variation of cha, like chay in Hindi.
Both versions come from China. How they spread around the world offers a clear picture of how globalization worked before “globalization” was a term anybody used. The words that sound like “cha” spread across land, along the Silk Road. The “tea”-like phrasings spread over water, by Dutch traders bringing the novel leaves back to Europe.
tea-map1.png

The term cha (茶) is “Sinitic,” meaning it is common to many varieties of Chinese. It began in China and made its way through central Asia, eventually becoming “chay” (چای) in Persian. That is no doubt due to the trade routes of the Silk Road, along which, according to a recent discovery, tea was traded over 2,000 years ago. This form spread beyond Persia, becoming chayin Urdu, shay in Arabic, and chay in Russian, among others. It even made its way to sub-Saharan Africa, where it became chai in Swahili. The Japanese and Korean terms for tea are also based on the Chinese cha, though those languages likely adopted the word even before its westward spread into Persian.

But that doesn’t account for “tea.” The Chinese character for tea, 茶, is pronounced differently by different varieties of Chinese, though it is written the same in them all. In today’s Mandarin, it is chá. But in the Min Nan variety of Chinese, spoken in the coastal province of Fujian, the character is pronounced te. The key word here is “coastal.”

The te form used in coastal-Chinese languages spread to Europe via the Dutch, who became the primary traders of tea between Europe and Asia in the 17th century, as explained in the World Atlas of Language Structures. The main Dutch ports in east Asia were in Fujian and Taiwan, both places where people used the te pronunciation. The Dutch East India Company’s expansive tea importation into Europe gave us the French thé, the German Tee, and the English tea.

Yet the Dutch were not the first to Asia. That honor belongs to the Portuguese, who are responsible for the island of Taiwan’s colonial European name, Formosa. And the Portuguese traded not through Fujian but Macao, where chá is used. That’s why, on the map above, Portugal is a pink dot in a sea of blue.

A few languages have their own way of talking about tea. These languages are generally in places where tea grows naturally, which led locals to develop their own way to refer to it. In Burmese, for example, tea leaves are lakphak.

The map demonstrates two different eras of globalization in action: the millenia-old overland spread of goods and ideas westward from ancient China, and the 400-year-old influence of Asian culture on the seafaring Europeans of the age of exploration. Also, you just learned a new word in nearly every language on the planet.
 

ginfreely

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Triple confirmed! Wow I made such a big discovery on Hokkiens and tea from learning languages Spanish French German Malay etc. LOL

https://www.google.com.my/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjYwaWmmvPfAhUHgI8KHfMNAZoQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https://qz.com/1176962/map-how-the-word-tea-spread-over-land-and-sea-to-conquer-the-world/&psig=AOvVaw0Z_9xTw34cQlo0UoeexFYI&ust=1547759154947045

Tea if by sea, cha if by land: Why the world only has two words for tea
With a few minor exceptions, there are really only two ways to say “tea” in the world. One is like the English term— in Spanish and tee in Afrikaans are two examples. The other is some variation of cha, like chay in Hindi.
Both versions come from China. How they spread around the world offers a clear picture of how globalization worked before “globalization” was a term anybody used. The words that sound like “cha” spread across land, along the Silk Road. The “tea”-like phrasings spread over water, by Dutch traders bringing the novel leaves back to Europe.
tea-map1.png

The term cha (茶) is “Sinitic,” meaning it is common to many varieties of Chinese. It began in China and made its way through central Asia, eventually becoming “chay” (چای) in Persian. That is no doubt due to the trade routes of the Silk Road, along which, according to a recent discovery, tea was traded over 2,000 years ago. This form spread beyond Persia, becoming chayin Urdu, shay in Arabic, and chay in Russian, among others. It even made its way to sub-Saharan Africa, where it became chai in Swahili. The Japanese and Korean terms for tea are also based on the Chinese cha, though those languages likely adopted the word even before its westward spread into Persian.

But that doesn’t account for “tea.” The Chinese character for tea, 茶, is pronounced differently by different varieties of Chinese, though it is written the same in them all. In today’s Mandarin, it is chá. But in the Min Nan variety of Chinese, spoken in the coastal province of Fujian, the character is pronounced te. The key word here is “coastal.”

The te form used in coastal-Chinese languages spread to Europe via the Dutch, who became the primary traders of tea between Europe and Asia in the 17th century, as explained in the World Atlas of Language Structures. The main Dutch ports in east Asia were in Fujian and Taiwan, both places where people used the te pronunciation. The Dutch East India Company’s expansive tea importation into Europe gave us the French thé, the German Tee, and the English tea.

Yet the Dutch were not the first to Asia. That honor belongs to the Portuguese, who are responsible for the island of Taiwan’s colonial European name, Formosa. And the Portuguese traded not through Fujian but Macao, where chá is used. That’s why, on the map above, Portugal is a pink dot in a sea of blue.

A few languages have their own way of talking about tea. These languages are generally in places where tea grows naturally, which led locals to develop their own way to refer to it. In Burmese, for example, tea leaves are lakphak.

The map demonstrates two different eras of globalization in action: the millenia-old overland spread of goods and ideas westward from ancient China, and the 400-year-old influence of Asian culture on the seafaring Europeans of the age of exploration. Also, you just learned a new word in nearly every language on the planet.
Who said learning languages no use?
 
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