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Taiwanese Separatist's DPP in-fighting Lesbian Tsai vs Lai both want presidency! Screwing each other!

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蔡英文:我做總統比較有經驗

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蔡英文總統(前)昨天表示,她與行政院前院長賴清德最大的不同是「我做總統比較有經驗」。
行政院前院長賴清德日前提及他跟蔡英文總統的三個不同,蔡英文昨天接受廣播節目「POP大國民」專訪表示,最大的不同是「我做總統比較有經驗」,對於賴強調自己有決斷力和執行力,蔡認為政治沒有絕對的明快或執行力的問題,很多事情要看當時的情況跟事情的複雜度。
賴清德上周在一場演講中提到,他自己和蔡總統的三個不同:尊重制度、可以傾聽民意、深入民間、有能力解決問題,以及他是可以打敗國民黨候選人,贏得總統大選的人。
蔡英文昨天回應,總統這個工作,確實需要一些歷練,她執政三年,打好國家下個階段需要的基礎,這確實是很困難的過程,碰到很多挑戰、批評。她也特別舉外交、兩岸與國防事務說,從一九九○年代晚期進入國安會後,她大概都是在這個領域裡,在所有政治人物裡,她的歷練應該是最完整的。
至於獨派提到的捍衛台灣主權,蔡總統說,捍衛主權不是講講而已,要看累積多少籌碼、有多少國際支持在後面,這才是重點。她過去三年很謹慎處理兩岸關係,國際上沒有人說台灣是麻煩製造者及挑釁,倒是對岸動作很多,他們相對來講是比較有挑釁的一方。
至於賴清德主張特赦前總統陳水扁,蔡英文說,這當然是總統權力,但也有法律條件要滿足,另一個就是社會對這個問題的看法,總統必須考慮社會觀感。她提醒,賴清德恐怕也要想一想法律限制,還有社會對這個問題的看法。
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「蔡迂迴改變現狀」 前外長:美不會派子弟兵為台送死

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記者鄭媁/台北報導
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蔡英文政府執政滿三周年,國民黨智庫國家政策研究基金會昨天舉辦記者會,檢討蔡政府過去三年的國安成績單。外交部前部長歐鴻鍊指出,蔡英文總統應從「美國可以救我們」的迷思中覺醒;一旦中共動武,美國當然會協助我們,但當然也不會派他的子弟兵為台灣送死。
歐鴻鍊指出,蔡政府外交政策及對外關係主軸是聯美、日抗中。過去馬政府時代兩岸休兵,我方能以觀察員身分參與WHA以及ICAO,但蔡政府連參與機會都被取消,美日都沒有能力從國際組織內部協助我們,只能會議上發言挺台。
歐鴻鍊說,邦交國三年斷五國,每次斷交都重申「不跟對岸進行金錢遊戲」,但外交預算大幅增加,非洲唯一邦交國編列十幾億元預算,尼加拉瓜就貸款一億美金,兩岸不改善、外交不休兵,金錢遊戲只會繼續玩下去,且金額愈來愈大。
歐鴻鍊指出,蔡總統的做法就是以迂迴方式改變現狀,透過華府公關推動美國國會通過友我決議案。這個做法大幅加值美國在中美對抗急需使用的台灣牌。一旦中共動武,他認為,美國總統川普是商人性格,他有「美國第一、美國優先」的思維,一定會快速決定出售先進武器,發台灣戰爭財的良機。
歐鴻鍊也提到,由日本主導的「跨太平洋夥伴全面進步協定(CPTPP)」,日本口口聲聲說會支持台灣加入,但事實上,台灣加入的可能性幾乎是零。因根據章程,新會員的加入必須獲會員國全體一致同意,日本對於這些會員國的影響力遠低於中國大陸,而這些會員國絕大多數與中國大陸的合作關係十分密切,不可能不顧慮中國大陸的感受,給予台灣支持。
此外,在「區域全面經濟夥伴關係協定(RCEP)」方面,因是陸方主導,台灣更不可能參與。所以,蔡英文政府爭取參與國際性或區域性組織的努力,可說是完全挫敗。
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Tsai Ing-wen: I am more experienced as a president.
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May 22, 2019, 6:19 am


President Tsai Ing-wen (former) said yesterday that the biggest difference between her and former president of the Executive Yuan Lai Qingde is "I have more experience as a president."
President Tsai Ing-wen (former) said yesterday that the biggest difference between her and former president of the Executive Yuan Lai Qingde is "I have more experience as a president."

The predecessor of the Executive Yuan Lai Qingde’s premise and his three differences with President Tsai Ing-wen, Tsai Ing-wen’s interview with the radio program “POP Nationals” yesterday, said that the biggest difference is that “I have more experience as a president”. Judging and execution, Cai believes that politics has no absolute bright or executive power. Many things depend on the situation at the time and the complexity of the matter.

Lai Qingde mentioned in a speech last week that he and President Cai’s three differences: respect the system, can listen to the public opinion, go deep into the people, have the ability to solve problems, and he can defeat the KMT candidate and win the presidential election.

Tsai Ing-wen responded yesterday. The President’s work does require some experience. She has been in power for three years and laid the foundation for the next stage of the country. This is indeed a very difficult process and has encountered many challenges and criticisms. She also cited diplomacy, cross-strait and defense affairs. After entering the National Security Council in the late 1990s, she was probably in this field. Among all politicians, her experience should be the most complete.

As for the defense of Taiwan’s sovereignty mentioned by the sole faction, President Cai said that defending sovereignty is not a matter of speaking. It depends on how many chips are accumulated and how much international support is behind. This is the point. She has been very cautious in handling cross-strait relations in the past three years. No one in the world has said that Taiwan is a troublemaker and a provocation. However, there are many actions on the other side. They are relatively provocative parties.

As for Lai Qingde’s proposition of former President Chen Shui-bian, Tsai Ing-wen said that this is of course the president’s power, but there are also legal conditions to be satisfied. The other is the society’s view of this issue. The president must consider the social perception. She reminded that Lai Qingde might have to think about legal restrictions and the views of society on this issue.

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"Cai Yu returns to change the status quo" Former Foreign Minister: The United States will not send children to die for Taiwan.
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The third anniversary of the administration of the Tsinghua English government, the Kuomintang think tank National Policy Research Foundation held a press conference yesterday to review the Caian government's national transcripts for the past three years. Former Foreign Minister Ou Hongxing pointed out that President Tsai Ing-wen should awaken from the myth that "the United States can save us." Once the CCP moves its military, the United States will certainly assist us, but of course it will not send his children to die for Taiwan.

Ou Hongxing pointed out that the main axis of Cai’s foreign policy and foreign relations is the United States and Japan. In the past, during the era of the Malaysian government, we were able to participate in the WHA and ICAO as observers. However, the Cai government even canceled the opportunity to participate. The United States and Japan did not have the ability to assist us from within the international organization.

Ou Hongxing said that the country has broken the five countries for three years. Every time it broke, it reiterated that it would "do not play money games with the other side." However, the diplomatic budget has increased substantially. The only country in Africa has budgeted more than one billion yuan, and Nicaragua has borrowed one hundred million dollars. The two sides of the strait will not improve, and diplomacy will not stop. The money game will only continue to play, and the amount will increase.

Ou Hongxing pointed out that President Cai’s approach is to change the status quo in a roundabout way, and through the Washington Public Relations to promote the US Congress to pass the Friends and My resolution. This practice has greatly increased the value of the United States in the United States and the United States against the urgent need to use the Taiwanese card. Once the CCP moves its military, he believes that US President Trump is a businessman's character. He has the "first US, American priority" thinking, and will quickly decide the opportunity to sell advanced weapons and send Taiwan war money.

Ou Hongxing also mentioned that the Japan-led "Trans-Pacific Partnership Progressive Agreement (CPTPP)", Japan has repeatedly said that it will support Taiwan's accession, but in fact, the possibility of Taiwan's accession is almost zero. Because according to the charter, the participation of new members must be unanimously agreed by all the member states. Japan’s influence on these member countries is far lower than that of mainland China. The vast majority of these member countries have close cooperation with mainland China, and it is impossible to ignore them. The feelings of mainland China give Taiwan support.

In addition, in terms of the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement (RCEP), Taiwan is less likely to participate because it is dominated by the mainland. Therefore, the efforts of Tsai Ing-wen government to participate in international or regional organizations can be said to be completely defeated.

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Ex-Member Kenna Expelled DPP party membership, sued DPP in court and won! Now DPP LL have to reinstate membership! LOL!

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中國時報【林偉信、洪榮志╱綜合報導】
原屬民進黨籍的台南市議員蔡秋蘭,2014年底被民進黨中評會以未在正副議長選舉中亮票為由,開除黨籍,她不服提起訴訟;歷審均判她敗訴,高院更一審認為,蔡被開除黨籍,不是經由黨員代表大會做成或追認,21日逆轉改判她勝訴。全案可上訴。
蔡秋蘭得知判決結果後低調表示,「我只是要討一個公道」,讓司法還她清白;至於是否會申請回復黨籍?蔡秋蘭說:「再說吧!」
蔡秋蘭曾擔任3屆台南縣議員,台南縣市合併後她連任3屆市議員至今,曾擔任台南市議會民進黨團召集人,2014年12月25日她因在正副議長選舉中,未遵守黨團一致決議亮票,遭民進黨以違反黨紀開除黨籍。
據查,2014年九合一大選,民進黨在台南取得過半議員席次,決議由賴美惠、郭信良搭檔參選正副議長,原本以為穩操勝券,但因5人跑票,最後由國民黨李全教以29票對26票取得議長寶座。事後,民進黨認定陳朝來、蔡秋蘭、梁順發、莊玉珠、曾王雅雲等5人跑票,經中評會決議全數開除黨籍。但蔡秋蘭不服,提出確認黨籍存在之訴。
蔡秋蘭說,當年正副議長選舉時,她有按照黨團的決議投票給賴美惠,並沒有跑票,事後也接受指紋鑑定,但市黨部及黨團仍認定她跑票,中評會也在沒有證據的情況下,違反程序將她開除黨籍,讓她十分不滿,認為2014年12月31日中評會裁決開除她黨員資格,是明顯違法的裁決,應屬無效,她仍具有民進黨黨員資格,因此對民進黨提起確認黨員資格訴訟。
台北地院及高院都駁回蔡的聲請判她敗訴,經最高法院廢棄後,高院更一審認為本案不適用2017年公布施行的政黨法,應依當時法律人團法及民法相關規定審理。
高院更一審認為,依人團法及民法規定,開除社員必須經總會決議,但民進黨當年是由中評會做成的裁決,而非黨員代表大會做成或追認,因違反強制規定屬於無效,逆轉改判蔡女民進黨黨員資格存在。


Green Expelled Party, Cai Qiulan, reversal in the first trial
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May 22, 2019, 5:50 am

China Times [Lin Weixin, Hong Rongzhi's comprehensive report]

Cai Qiulan, a member of the Tainan City Council who was originally a member of the Democratic Progressive Party, was expelled from the DPP by the DPP in the election of the deputy speaker. At the end of the year, she dismissed the party. She refused to accept the lawsuit; she was judged to be defeated by the trial. The first instance held that Cai was expelled from the party, not through the party members' congress, or on the 21st, reversing her judgment. The entire case can be appealed.

After knowing the verdict, Cai Qiulan said in a low-key manner, "I just want to ask for a fairness", so that the judiciary can still give her innocence; as to whether she will apply for a reply to the party membership? Cai Qiulan said: "Let's talk!"

Cai Qiulan served as a member of the 3rd Tainan County. After the merger of Tainan County and the city, she was re-elected as a member of the 3rd Municipal Council. She served as the convener of the Democratic Progressive Party of the Tainan City Council. On December 25, 2014, she did not comply with the party group in the election of the deputy speaker. The unanimous resolution revealed that the Democratic Progressive Party had expelled the party from violating the party discipline.

According to the investigation, in the 2014 general election of Jiuhe, the DPP obtained a majority of seats in Tainan. The resolution was decided by Lai Meihui and Guo Xinliang to participate in the election of the deputy speaker. Originally, he thought that he would win the ticket, but because of the five people running the ticket, the Kuomintang Li Quanjiao finally The ticket won 26 votes for the Speaker's throne. After the event, the DPP found that Chen Chaolai, Cai Qiulan, Liang Shunfa, Zhuang Yuzhu, and Zeng Wang Yayun and other five people ran the ticket, and all the members of the Central Committee decided to expel the party. However, Cai Qiulan refused to accept the case and proposed to confirm the existence of the party membership.

Cai Qiulan said that when the deputy speaker was elected in the same year, she voted for Lai Meihui according to the resolution of the party group. She did not run the ticket and accepted the fingerprint identification afterwards. However, the city party department and the party group still determined that she ran the ticket, and the China Council also had no evidence. In the circumstances, the violation of the procedure to expel her from the party, she was very dissatisfied, that the decision of the Central Committee on December 31, 2014 to expel her party membership is a clear violation of the law, should be invalid, she still has the DPP party membership, Therefore, the DPP is required to file a lawsuit to confirm party membership.

The Taipei District Court and the High Court rejected the voice of Tsai and asked her to lose the case. After the Supreme Court abandoned it, the Higher Court even considered that the case was not applicable to the party law promulgated in 2017 and should be tried in accordance with the law of the People's Republic of China and the relevant provisions of the Civil Law.

In the first instance of the High Court, according to the regulations of the People’s Republic of China and the Civil Law, the expulsion of members must be decided by the General Assembly. However, the DPP was a ruling made by the CRIC, and it was not made or ratified by the Party Congress. The stipulations are invalid, and the reversal of the Citizen Democratic Progressive Party membership is in existence.
 

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Surely 賴清德 cannot be worse than 蔡英文. :biggrin:


I prefer 习近平 to go shoot away missile away few hundred thousands and be the only president. Then all the monkey will know how to behave.

Freedom Democracy Peace & Human Rights kenna ABUSED to the extreme already. Time for some REAL POLITICS = Elimination Carnage Torture Punishment & BLOOD.

Modern Civilization got a FALSE Definition of Politics only to Pamper Bastards ESPECIALLY. Time to RESTORE THE REAL ORIGINAL POLITICS.
 
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