Serious Tai Chi Image Destroyed Beyond Repair

[ChanRasjid]

Tai chi practiced by ordinary folks is for health. However, beyond the basics, it is a martial art for combat. Its specialty is 'avoiding the attacking force through swift rotation of the body and throwing the opponent off balance by pushing or pulling him in the same direction as his applied force'. a basic practice is pushing each others arm and rotating the body. Problem is if he is not fast enough to siam the punch from the mma fighter and yet not trained to take such a solid punch, he is a dead duck.

In all fights, if we are not trained to take blows, we can forget about whatever moves we have mastered.

To be honest, this fight actually represent nothing much about Tai Chi as a fighting art. Xu Xiaodong himself clarified he would only accept challenges from the fakes; if a sanda champion were to challenge him, he would say honestly he will lose, why fight? He himself is not really a professional MMA fighter - probably a self-taught coach.

The problem with most Chinese martial arts today is that there is insufficient training or no training in facing real opponents. Probably, real Tai Chi masters may already be extinct. MMA is training in real fighting and the only theory is common sense. Who wins?

If you pay attention to the fight, it is not like Xu Xiaodong is invincible. If his opponent were a real master with power, who knows he might be stopped dead outright; you may be hit direct by your own rushing momentum. But the first quality of a real fighter is courage.

Best regards,
Chan Rasjid.

 

[Bonut]

Tai Chi failed, one down.

But Tai Chi is just one among many Chinese kungfu.

Still to go : Subduing the Dragon with 18 Palms; Magic Sword of the Six Arteries.

 

[ChanRasjid]

I think sanda is much better than MMA. It is demeaning to fight within a metal cage. You allow yourself to be viewed as slaves. The moment you enter the cage, you hand over your soul to the whims of others willing to pay the price.

Chan Rasjid.

 

[JohnTan]

To be honest, this fight actually represent nothing much about Tai Chi as a fighting art. Xu Xiaodong himself clarified he would only accept challenges from the fakes; if a sanda champion were to challenge him, he would say honestly he will lose, why fight? He himself is not really a professional MMA fighter - probably a self-taught coach.

Your average traditional arts instructors who are the genuine teachers of traditional arts but are martial arts fakes. Like the various masters in the Ip Man movie, they are usually physically unfit, lacking in muscle tone and fat. They don't even look like retired fighters. They just look amateurs, and can only fight slightly better than the average untrained office, sedentary worker.

[video=youtube;ee-QfYzP4Oc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee-QfYzP4Oc[/video]

The problem with most Chinese martial arts today is that there is insufficient training or no training in facing real opponents. Probably, real Tai Chi masters may already be extinct. MMA is training in real fighting and the only theory is common sense. Who wins?

You are spot on. Otherwise, they fight with real opponents who fight exactly like they do. So, there's little real learning. Also, most traditional arts utterly dislike cross training. It's akin to apostasy.

If you pay attention to the fight, it is not like Xu Xiaodong is invincible. If his opponent were a real master with power, who knows he might be stopped dead outright; you may be hit direct by your own rushing momentum. But the first quality of a real fighter is courage.

Best regards,
Chan Rasjid.

The chink traditional arts masters and the wechat world knows that. That a self-taught MMA amateur, a nobody in the MMA fight scene can floor a taichi master in 10 secs is what really embarrassed them so much.

 

[zeddy]

Your average traditional arts instructors who are the genuine teachers of traditional arts but are martial arts fakes. Like the various masters in the Ip Man movie, they are usually physically unfit, lacking in muscle tone and fat. They don't even look like retired fighters. They just look amateurs, and can only fight slightly better than the average untrained office, sedentary worker.

[video=youtube;ee-QfYzP4Oc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee-QfYzP4Oc[/video]



You are spot on. Otherwise, they fight with real opponents who fight exactly like they do. So, there's little real learning. Also, most traditional arts utterly dislike cross training. It's akin to apostasy.



The chink traditional arts masters and the wechat world knows that. That a self-taught MMA amateur, a nobody in the MMA fight scene can floor a taichi master in 10 secs is what really embarrassed them so much.

CB Kia John Tan aka Clinton666, pls demo your famed Jiu Jitsu!

 

[JohnTan]

CB Kia John Tan aka Clinton666, pls demo your famed Jiu Jitsu!

I don't practice bbj, which I believe is getting common amongst sinkies who watch too much UFC or surf sammyboy. I stick with good ol' fashion boxing, which is good enough for keeping fit and winning my scraps against road ragers or sinkies who wish to chope seats.

 

[Balls2U]

That so-called Tai Chi Master is a crap. That MMA bloke has never fought a real kung fu master skilled in Baji Quan, Xingyi Quan or even Tau Chi. These are known to be real fighting arts.

 

[JohnTan]

That so-called Tai Chi Master is a crap. That MMA bloke has never fought a real kung fu master skilled in Baji Quan, Xingyi Quan or even Tau Chi. These are known to be real fighting arts.

The video gives you an idea of baji quan in a sparring match. I've seen two amateur boxers do better than that, let alone professional boxers or MMA boxers.

[video=youtube;jFvV0MTDlHo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFvV0MTDlHo[/video]

 

[ChanRasjid]

That so-called Tai Chi Master is a crap. That MMA bloke has never fought a real kung fu master skilled in Baji Quan, Xingyi Quan or even Tau Chi. These are known to be real fighting arts.

It is hard to say really. I think this Wei Lei is a clear case of a charlatan and Xu knew that. Wei probably had never ever had any real fight training; Xu showed Wei doing the "birds-can't-escape-my-palm-trick", it is a red flag of a charlatan. Whoever in this age has such power(in theory, the skin of the master could react and absorb the takeoff trust of the bird thus nullifying the birds jump).

What I find surprising is that Xu gave three choices of his next challenge (don't expect any next fight as the Wushu authorities in a group announcement said that traditional Chinese martial art should not be challenged - no need to! a quo bao! national treasure!). One of the choice is the Tai Chi bodyguard of Jack Ma who has a very strong reputation with videos of him fighting "real"; Wei had nothing to show.

Best regards,
Chan Rasjid.

 

[Wunderfool]

Your average traditional arts instructors who are the genuine teachers of traditional arts but are martial arts fakes. Like the various masters in the Ip Man movie, they are usually physically unfit, lacking in muscle tone and fat. They don't even look like retired fighters. They just look amateurs, and can only fight slightly better than the average untrained office, sedentary worker.

[video=youtube;ee-QfYzP4Oc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee-QfYzP4Oc[/video]



You are spot on. Otherwise, they fight with real opponents who fight exactly like they do. So, there's little real learning. Also, most traditional arts utterly dislike cross training. It's akin to apostasy.



The chink traditional arts masters and the wechat world knows that. That a self-taught MMA amateur, a nobody in the MMA fight scene can floor a taichi master in 10 secs is what really embarrassed them so much.

Now I know how the Wing Chun master can beat the MMA fighter. Fight him on the big round table.

 

[ChanRasjid]

The latest news seem to indicate that Xu Xiaodong is in trouble. He hinted that he has lost everything. Other youtube said he has been "closed"; probably they took away his license to continue with his MMA school, etc. There are some powers in control of Wushu in China; seems some highly connected Tai Chi masters need to be protected.

Chan Rasjid.

 

[Wunderfool]

The latest news seem to indicate that Xu Xiaodong is in trouble. He hinted that he has lost everything. Other youtube said he has been "closed"; probably they took away his license to continue with his MMA school, etc. There are some powers in control of Wushu in China; seems some highly connected Tai Chi masters need to be protected.

Chan Rasjid.

Hah! That is the REAL Tai Chi Quan. Xu doesn't even know what has destroyed him.

 

[JohnTan]

The latest news seem to indicate that Xu Xiaodong is in trouble. He hinted that he has lost everything. Other youtube said he has been "closed"; probably they took away his license to continue with his MMA school, etc. There are some powers in control of Wushu in China; seems some highly connected Tai Chi masters need to be protected.

Chan Rasjid.

The taichi master he hammered in 10 seconds was actually viewed by many chinks as the real deal. I wouldn't be surprised if the taichi fraud or his backers pulled some strings to screw this mma straight guy.

The fact Xu retired from professional MMA competitions 13 years ago after a career-ending injury made it all the more embarrassing for Wei.

Wei was hailed in a documentary by China Central Television (CCTV) two years ago as “one of the greatest tai chi masters in China”.

In that programme, he performed feats that wouldn’t be of place in a Marvel film – such as using “chi” to create a force field that kept a pigeon from leaving his palm.

Such a feat would fundamentally change our understanding of natural laws were it genuine. Yet millions of Chinese viewers were convinced of its authenticity.

Not so Xu. He accused Wei of fraud and questioned tai chi as a fighting technique. The two got into a heated spat over cyberspace that eventually led to their duel in Chengdu (成都), Sichuan, on April 27.


Read more at http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/2093104/opinion-why-kick-teeth-good-chinese-kung-fu

 

[eatshitndie]

any chink "martial art" purist must be hallucinating hisher hernia to high heaven. it cannot compete with mma as a purist system with a single vertical line of discipline is not tested and diverse enough for an all out brawl. all inbred systems are destined for the extinction heap.

 

[Semaj2357]

I don't practice bbj, which I believe is getting common amongst sinkies who watch too much UFC or surf sammyboy. I stick with good ol' fashion boxing, which is good enough for keeping fit and winning my scraps against road ragers or sinkies who wish to chope seats.

and what do you call jostling and elbowing the aunties at glassloot events to tarpow...styrofoam stealth

Hah! That is the REAL Tai Chi Quan. Xu doesn't even know what has destroyed him.

that's the "unseen hand" at play

 

[virus]

Weng Chun is the best !

Ip Man! Ip Man ! Ip Man !...

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Obviously you did not see the Malaysian haolian trying wing chun n kena owned by mma fighter

 

[virus]

Tai Chi failed, one down.

But Tai Chi is just one among many Chinese kungfu.

Still to go : Subduing the Dragon with 18 Palms; Magic Sword of the Six Arteries.

I volunteer to fight female mma fighter, I'll grab her pussy n nehneh do hard into submission n use my one eye snake to split venom into her eyes before I use multiple stabbing into her inner self until she is subdued

 

[Wunderfool]

I volunteer to fight female mma fighter, I'll grab her pussy n nehneh do hard into submission n use my one eye snake to split venom into her eyes before I use multiple stabbing into her inner self until she is subdued

Don't say it too early .

Meet Singapore no 1 MMA woman fighter Angela Lee. You will willingly die in her arms !

 

[Wunderfool]

Any time bro !

 

[Dark Knight]

This is the real classic example of challenging the opponent to "fight the fakes".

[video=youtube;gEDaCIDvj6I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEDaCIDvj6I[/video]