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Supposedly Stealth F-22 got ass kicked in Syria by non-stealth SU-35

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Putin kicked USAF F-22 off in the ass for his friend Assad. There is no more ISIS to be proxy, so now US & Russia have to fight DIRECTLY.

https://www.rt.com/news/412590-russia-us-syria-air-force/

Russian Su-35 chased away rogue US F-22 jet: MoD blasts US Air Force for hampering Syria op
Published time: 9 Dec, 2017 18:31
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FILE PHOTO: A Russian Sukhoi Su-35 bomber lands at the Russian Hmeimim military base in Latakia province, in the northwest of Syria © Vasily Maximov / AFP
A Russian interceptor has been scrambled to stop a rogue US fighter jet from actively interfering with an anti-terrorist operation, the Russian Defense Ministry said. It also accused the US of provoking close encounters with the Russian jets in Syria.
A US F-22 fighter was preventing two Russian Su-25 strike aircraft from bombing an Islamic State (IS, former ISIS) base to the west of the Euphrates November 23, according to the ministry. The ministry’s spokesman, Major General Igor Konashenkov described the episode as yet another example of US aircraft attempts to prevent Russian forces from carrying out strikes against Islamic State.

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“The F-22 launched decoy flares and used airbrakes while constantly maneuvering [near the Russian strike jets], imitating an air fight,” Konashenkov said. He added that the US jet ceased its dangerous maneuvers only after a Russian Su-35S fighter jet joined the two strike planes.

The major general went on to say that “most close-midair encounters between Russian and US jets in the area around the Euphrates River have been linked to the attempts of US aircraft to get in the way [of the Russian warplanes] striking against Islamic State terrorists.” He also said that the US military officials provided no explanation for the November 23 incident as well as other, similar encounters.

The statement came as a response to the Pentagon’s claims about “an increase in unsafe behavior” by Russian warplanes. “We saw anywhere from six to eight incidents daily in late November, where Russian or Syrian aircraft crossed into our airspace on the east side of the Euphrates River,” Lt. Col. Damien Pickart, the spokesman for US Air Force Central Command, told CNN earlier on Saturday.

Konashenkov said that any claims made by US military officials concerning the fact that there is “any part of the airspace in Syria that belongs to the US” are “puzzling.” Konashenkov also said that “Syria is a sovereign state and a UN member and that means that there… can be no US airspace ‘of its own.’ Unlike the Russian Air Force, the US-led coalition is operating in Syria without any legal basis,” he added.

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Pickart also said that the US’ “greatest concern is that we could shoot down a Russian aircraft because its actions are seen as a threat to our air or ground forces.” Earlier, he also told the New York Times that it has become “increasingly tough for our [US] pilots to discern whether Russian pilots are deliberately testing or baiting us into reacting, or if these are just honest mistakes.”

The New York Times also listed several cases of what the US describes as “unsafe behavior” by the Russian jets, citing the data provided by the US air base in Qatar. The US accused the Russian pilots of “crossing into the airspace east of the Euphrates” and flying “dangerously close” to the “allied forces,” adding that such actions could be interpreted as “threatening” and the US pilots were “in their rights” to fire in “self-defense.”

Konashenkov said in response that the US Air Force should rather focus on destroying Islamic State in Iraq than provoking close encounters between the US and the Russian jets.

Pickart said to CNN that the US military regularly talk to their Russian counterparts “in the daily de-confliction calls.” However, the Russian military repeatedly pointed out that the US is reluctant to share its plans for combat aircraft operations, and acts secretively in Syria.

The US and the Russian military have traded jibes over various incidents involving both countries’ warplanes in the Syrian skies. Washington accused Russian jets of not carrying transponders allowing air-traffic controllers to identify them, while Moscow repeatedly said that the US military only “occasionally” indicate the time period and an approximate area of their air operations without even giving the types of aircraft and their affiliation.

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Back in 2015, the US and Russia agreed upon the mutual flight safety memorandum regulating the flight paths and contacts of the countries’ air forces in Syria during an emergency situation. The two countries also set up a hotline for their militaries to discuss the approximate locations and missions of planes in an attempt to avoid operating in the same airspace at the same time.

However, both sides later repeatedly accused each other of being reluctant to use the instruments at their disposal to reconcile the issues related to their actions in Syria. Most recently, Colonel Jeff Hogan, deputy commander of the air operations center at the Qatar base, called the daily phone calls between the US and Russian military “contentious.” The US also said that the dialogue does not always reflect what happens in the skies over Syria.

In January, Konashenkov complained that the US officers often “simply cannot be found on the other side of the ‘hotline’ in Qatar, designed to discuss and resolve contentious issues” and urged them to “use this hotline more often and for its direct purposes.”

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美军在叙真栽了?F22见苏35就逃跑飞行员承认很头痛
2017年12月22日 08:54 新浪军事

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苏-35S的超级机动能力无与伦比
  苏-35S和F-22不久前在叙利亚上空的相遇表明,F-22严重逊色于苏-35S。当看到苏-35S战机赶过来之后,F-22不得不匆匆飞入伊拉克领空。据美国商业内幕网站19日载文称,F-22目前是美国空军最先进的歼击机,其主要用途是在空中与敌机进行远距离作战。不容易被敌方发现的“隐身”性能是F-22的关键优势。这使其能在于己有利的条件下远距离对敌人发起攻击。但当在叙利亚上空遭遇俄苏-35S战机时,如果发生战斗,F-22没有任何优势,因为苏-35S战机的飞行员能清楚地看见F-22。此外,苏-35S的机动性比F-22强。

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F-22的超级机动能力无法与苏-35S相比
  这是美国媒体的说法,也验证了此前俄罗斯媒体的报道,即在叙利亚苏-35S战机让F-22丢了颜面。在几天前的文章中,当出现“F-22神话被无情打破?苏-35可对抗五代机属实”的字样时,很多F-22的粉丝管不住自己的嘴了,不但表示这是不可能的,也开了尊口吐出了不雅之词。虽然这情有可原,而且可能在很多情况下,F-22仍然具有很大优势,但是,这次在叙利亚的近距离遭遇,的的确确让该机的神话有些被戳穿的意思。

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发射中距弹阻止苏-35S靠近是F-22的保命战术
  在美国媒体的文章中,特意指明当“遭遇”苏-35S战机时,也就是当苏-35S与F-22近距离遭遇时,F-22没有任何优势可言,而且只有逃跑的份。虽然很多F-22粉认为凭借推力矢量发动机该机应具有超级机动能力,但是这种超级机动能力在苏-35S战机面前,却似乎算不得什么。记忆好的读者应该记得,在航展表演中,苏-35S能做70度大迎角爬升、快速滚转、俯冲、斤斗等机动,还能做“钩子”、“眼镜蛇”和“摊煎饼”机动,特别是后面这个机动能在几米范围内瞬间实现静高度360度转向,这些特技动作曾令多少人瞠目结舌。

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超级机动和强大的武器携载是苏-35S的制胜法宝
  几乎可以这样说,如果在远距离上,F-22凭借隐身能力和先进的APG-77雷达以及优异的AIM-120D导弹,能够先敌发现先敌开火,换句话说,也就是苏-35S在没有发现并且还无知觉的情况下,就能够被F-22击落了。这种可能性很大。不过,苏-35S虽然不能发现F-22,但能获知被空空导弹锁定与否,并且有很大机会使用上面所说的特技甩掉空空导弹的追击。所以问题来了,迎着导弹来袭的方向苏-35S能够迅速接近F-22,并能在50公里的距离上发现之,此时可以使用RVV-MD导弹发起攻击,此刻两种战机的胜负比例大概是50%。如果距离再继续拉近,那么,情况就对F-22大大不利了。正如曾驾驶F-22和F-35的美国海军陆战队中校伯克所说:“我会尽量避开机动性强的战斗。”

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发射干扰弹+实施机动或使F-22能保命
  分析认为,很多人对于苏-35S这款4.5代战机能够跨代战胜F-22表示匪夷所思,其实如果不细加分析,的确没人敢信。但事实胜于雄辩,美俄在叙利亚的空中遭遇证明,在苏-35S到场后,F-22立刻被咬尾,为了防止尴尬事件出现,其不得不紧急逃入伊拉克领空保命。这是连美军都承认的事实。对此,F-22的驾驶员的建议是,不要让该机执行这种非隐身的任务,这种任务还是由F-15和F-16来执行比较合适。而对于F-22,应该充分利用其隐身优势,更多执行远距离监视任务,那才是它的强项。(作者署名:军评陈光文)
 
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