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Socialism or Free Markets? Consider Myanmar and Thailand

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IN TERMS OF LAND area and population Myanmar and Thailand are close in size, and i n the 1960s both countries had similar rates of growth.
But in 1962 Myanmar’s General Ne Win led a coup d’état, establishing a nominally socialist military government that followed an economic policy of autarky. The country closed its doors to the world and expelled the Indians who had come with the British to help in the retail industry many decades before. Although Ne Win resigned in July 1988, the military junta remained firmly in control of the country.
During the same period Thailand experienced multiple army coups, but its leaders chose a different economic path. Thailand became a free-market economy, open to all investments from all countries, and it absorbed its Chinese immigrants, who had arrived during and after British rule. Today Thailand is one of Asia’s busiest manufacturing hubs.
Because of its closed-door socialism, Myanmar’s per capita GDP (in current international dollars) has lagged behind Thailand’s. In 1980 Myanmar’s was $172 and Thailand’s, $1,060. By 2012 the gap had widened, with Myanmar’s per capita GDP reaching $1,950 and Thailand’s, $8,516.
In May 1997 the U.S. imposed strong economic sanctions against Myanmar for human rights violations, banning all investment and trade activities. With the country’s diminished economic growth and its multiple other problems, citizens in need of medicines were forced to travel to the Thai border so they could trade gems or other valuables for medical supplies. At the same time the government was allowing China to extract whatever resources in gems and precious metals Myanmar held.
POSITIVE SIGNS
There are signs of change in Myanmar. One catalyst has been Aung San Suu Kyi, the third child of Aung San, the father of modern-day Myanmar. Born in June 1945, Suu Kyi spent many years abroad as a young adult. She returned home in 1988 to care for her ill mother and later became a leader of the pro-democracy movement, helping to found the National League for Democracy (NLD). Suu Kyi was first placed under house arrest in July 1989, but in the 1990 elections her NLD won 59% of the national vote and 81% of the seats. The military ignored the results. Suu Kyi was under house arrest for almost 15 of the 21 years following her initial arrest and was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1991. She was last released in November 2010.
In April the NLD won 43 parliamentary seats in the by-elections, and Aung San Suu Kyi took a seat in the lower house of parliament. Her brave presence in Myanmar has been an important factor in forcing change and bringing about the new Myanmar.
Equally crucial has been the military government’s change of heart. Than Shwe, State Peace & Development Council chairman, resigned in March 2011. He was succeeded by another member of the military government, Thein Sein, who seems to be a genuine reformer. Under his leadership Myanmar has transitioned to a civilian government.
When President Thein Sein met U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in December 2011, she encouraged him to further open the country to foreign trade and investment. When they met again in September, Clinton announced that the U.S. would lift its import sanctions, which will allow Myanmar to gradually close the economic gap with Thailand.
Thailand itself transitioned from an absolute monarchy to a democratic constitutional monarchy. Regular and rambunctious elections are held, but the army continues to stage coups whenever it considers the government unreliable or going against the monarchy. Over the last 80 years there have been 11 successful coups and 7 failed ones. The most recent was the ouster of prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra in September 2006. The military’s interference has resulted in a perpetual state of political uncertainty and has shaken investor confidence.
Both countries’ governments would do well to remember that it was the open-door policies of free trade and investment that made Thailand prosperous and the passive closed-door policies that held Myanmar back for 50 years.
 
True. I am waiting for Myanmar to open up more and then go in and expand my business.
 
If Thailand is so successful, how come their women work as prostitutes all over the world. There are not many prostitutes from Myanmar
 
Does anyone even know what socialism is? :(
 
Both countries’ governments would do well to remember that it was the open-door policies of free trade and investment that made Thailand prosperous and the passive closed-door policies that held Myanmar back for 50 years.

sillypore and Peasantpore are prosperous because both have open-door policies of free trade and investment too.
do thailand PM claim that he is the one single handedly making it possible ?
do sillypore Great Leader claim that he is the one making it possible ?

strangely most sillyporeans like to believe so.

thailand chose to go the capitalist path while Myanma goes the other way.
Because of its closed-door socialism, Myanmar’s per capita GDP (in current international dollars) has lagged behind Thailand’s. In 1980 Myanmar’s was $172 and Thailand’s, $1,060. By 2012 the gap had widened, with Myanmar’s per capita GDP reaching $1,950 and Thailand’s, $8,516.

do thai needs to pay sky high salary to the gahment (not garment or governmet) to achieve this ?

Niahmar ruling soldier is very corrupted . this is the cause of Niahmar's problem.
Tailang ministers are also corrupted but the there are sign of prosperity due to it's capitalist policy.
it does not mean that 90% of the tai are rich , in fact it is the opposite.

sillypore is somewhere in between.
in sillypore a group of people enriching themselves at the same time give a certain amount of
freedom to it's people and operate a very opened market system.
like tailang , despite it's claimed to be the most prosperous cuntry , the lower layer are living hand to mouth.
 
If Thailand is so successful, how come their women work as prostitutes all over the world. There are not many prostitutes from Myanmar


You have American and singkie prostitutes working all over the world too. Its call globalisation.
 
Lee Kuan Yew, Contributor
Thailand became a free-market economy, open to all investments from all countries, and it absorbed its Chinese immigrants, who had arrived during and after British rule.

since when Thailand got British rule
 
If Thailand is so successful, how come their women work as prostitutes all over the world. There are not many prostitutes from Myanmar

Have you seen Myanmar woman in general...some of them make HJ look very pretty, but Siamese "Tigers"..that's another universe!!
 
Because of its closed-door socialism, Myanmar’s per capita GDP (in current international dollars) has lagged behind Thailand’s. In 1980 Myanmar’s was $172 and Thailand’s, $1,060. By 2012 the gap had widened, with Myanmar’s per capita GDP reaching $1,950 and Thailand’s, $8,516.

why is he still harping on the useless indicator of per capita GDP? the numbers he cites only serves to reinforce the huge disparity in social inequality between thailand society and burmese society.

if burma falls into his trap and seeks copious amounts of GDP growth, it'll just lead to a tremendous growth in social inequality leading to social revolution. at which point the americans would install their puppets.
 
Does anyone even know what socialism is? :(

Agree,not meaningful to discuss the topic unless this is clarified.

Interesting to note that the PAP was at one time a member of Socialist International and
former President Devan Nair compiled and edited the book " Socialism that works...the Singapore way."

Unfortunately the party lost its way and its now "Foreigners that works......the ..........way".
 
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