Social enterprise food is anything but cheap

I didn't recall street food being cheap food in the 1970s. Hawkers back then also weren't plying street food in the name of 'food heritage'. They were doing it either for basic survival or to strike it big with their special recipes and unique food preparation. So why should hawker food today be cheap? Sinkies need to stop expecting food merchants to do charity and handouts for them.
You have just described the genesis of our food heritage and hawker culture. What those enterprising and talented hawkers created and served to a grateful public is being systematically disrupted, dismantled and destroyed by a stupid government, hell bent on milking a profit. Such a shame.
 
State intervention in the essential services like water, gas, power, transport is all it should do. In order to ensure accessibility and affordability to the public. All else, they need to bug off. A state that engages in businesses other than the essential services is like a catheter, it disrupts the natural process and drains it of it's life and vibrancy.:biggrin:

Hmm actually thinking about it more, the old government run system was working fine until some champion decided to bring rents up to market rates.

Hawker centers have been economically speaking, public goods in that stall rents have been subsidized below coffeeshop rates in general. Until now that is.

I wonder if the UNESCO bid has anything to do with the current fiasco.
 
A trip down memory lane... (Aug 2015)

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https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/govt-policies-help-keep-rents-low-for-hawkers-vivian
 
Social enterprise is a big time joke.

U think it is cheap? 1 canned drink selling at $1.50 at NTUC foodfare..... that's affordable? Why not go to NTUC buy a canned drink for 60 cents and bring it into the foodcourt?
 
One of the biggest Sinkie delusions is that NTUC is a legitimate labour union, its businesses are run as co-op without a profit maximization motive, therefore NTUC anything is cheap (kindergartens, pharmacy, supermarkets, insurance) etc. :roflmao:
 
State intervention in the essential services like water, gas, power, transport is all it should do. In order to ensure accessibility and affordability to the public. All else, they need to bug off. A state that engages in businesses other than the essential services is like a catheter, it disrupts the natural process and drains it of it's life and vibrancy.:biggrin:
ah glockie... truer words were never said. :thumbsup: right hoffy? @hofmann ?
 
Hmm actually thinking about it more, the old government run system was working fine until some champion decided to bring rents up to market rates.

Hawker centers have been economically speaking, public goods in that stall rents have been subsidized below coffeeshop rates in general. Until now that is.

I wonder if the UNESCO bid has anything to do with the current fiasco.
unlikely. some cack-handed paper scholar twit probably decided it was good way to newspeak their way into more government revenue. because y'know singapore's reserves and public money are supremely well-managed. :roflmao:
 
unlikely. some cack-handed paper scholar twit probably decided it was good way to newspeak their way into more government revenue. because y'know singapore's reserves and public money are supremely well-managed. :roflmao:

i wonder if these scholars are power trippin' now coz of how badly they were treated as pariahs in school. the well adjusted ones tend to leave the service and pursue careers in the private sector. so we get a bunch of poorly adjusted social misfits remaining behind, constructing policy for the country.

omg.
 
i wonder if these scholars are power trippin' now coz of how badly they were treated as pariahs in school. the well adjusted ones tend to leave the service and pursue careers in the private sector. so we get a bunch of poorly adjusted social misfits remaining behind, constructing policy for the country.

omg.
yup. sounds about rite. happen to know one who left. couldn't wait to beat it out of sinkieland despite the fast track that he was on. he was more or less properly adjusted. also happen to know a couple of lesser scholars. the better adjusted ones did leave the civil service! the fast track dude now bumping up against eat shit n die in sillycon valley. look at the nerds who had no life in charge now... :confused:

talk about revenge of the nerds.
 
yup. sounds about rite. happen to know one who left. couldn't wait to beat it out of sinkieland despite the fast track that he was on. he was more or less properly adjusted. also happen to know a couple of lesser scholars. the better adjusted ones did leave the civil service! the fast track dude now bumping up against eat shit n die in sillycon valley. look at the nerds who had no life in charge now... :confused:

talk about revenge of the nerds.

CCS is the biggest nerd of them all. Singapore is run by Nerds. We need more cowboys. But all the good ones leave the service.

LKY was chief cowboy.

They don't make them like they used to.
 
What a load of crock when it's gahmen policies that push up rental prices in the 1st place because the gahmen is just going into rent seeking mode. And that coming from a halfbreed ah Neh...open mouth without consequences and to think 70% voted for shit like him

If our SWFs achieved better returns like Norway, they wouldn't have to resort to such behaviour to fund their 50 year flood defence plans.
 
Stalls at new hawker centres to pay lower rents under NEA’s staggered rent scheme
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SINGAPORE: Stallholders at new hawker centres will pay lower rentals in the first two years, under a staggered rent scheme announced by the National Environment Agency (NEA) on Monday (Aug 26).
They will pay 80 per cent of stall rentals in the first year of the hawker centre’s operations, and 90 per cent in the second year. Full rental rates kick in from the third year.
The scheme will apply to the 13 new social enterprise hawker centres (SEHCs) that will be completed by 2027, starting with the one at Bukit Canberra in Sembawang which is scheduled to open in the second half of 2020.
Two years is generally the time it takes for new hawker centres to raise customer awareness and build a regular clientele, said NEA, referencing regular reviews conducted.
In addition, three of the existing seven SEHCs – at Yishun Park, Jurong West and Pasir Ris Central – will also benefit from a 10 per cent rental remission for six months. New stallholders who begin their tenancy between Sep 1, 2019 and Feb 29, 2020 are eligible.
According to NEA, the median rent across the seven SEHCs is S$2,000, which means stallholders at the three newer hawker centres can save around S$200 a month.
“The discount is a bonus, it will be good to have and it will help in some way or another,” said 35-year-old hawker Kenny Wong, who has been running his noodle shop at Yishun Park Hawker Centre for eight months.
“NEA has been implementing new changes and improvements in the management here every three to four months,” he added. “I will rely on them for that because we only know how to make food, and I don’t know anything about management.”
Kenny Wong has been running his noodle shop at Yishun Park Hawker Centre for eight months. (Photo: Corine Tiah)
Another hawker at Yishun Park, 42-year-old Michael Quinn, said that “the subsidies really help.”
“I think it really benefit (us) because compared to restaurants where you can buy premium ingredients, here you’re trying to find the middle ground and sell people decent food at reasonable prices,” said the former Marche chef who now runs a western cuisine stall.
“So far, the feedback has been good, the customers are quite nice and the weekend here had a lot of activity … I think they're doing their best to try to promote and bring people in.”
Irish Michael Quinn and his business partner, Jillian Phua. He operates a western cuisine shop at Yishun. (Photo: Corine Tiah)
The other four existing SEHCs have been operating for more than two years and are “doing well”, said NEA, which is why there is no need to extend the staggered rent scheme to them.
“Based on the principle that they need about two years to stabilise, these centers are actually all in their third year and beyond. In fact, of the four, two of them are in their second term of operation,” said NEA.
“If they are already established, there is no reason to subsidise them.”
ADJUSTING TENDER EVALUATION FOR UPCOMING HAWKER CENTRES
The social enterprise management model of running hawker centres was introduced with the aim of keeping food prices low while making the hawker trade sustainable.
Under this management model, operators also provide services like centralised dishwashing and cleaning.
Such hawker centres came under the spotlight last year when some stallholders complained about the extra fees levied on top of rental and other charges such as tray-return fees.
 
According to NEA, the median rent across the seven SEHCs is S$2,000, which means stallholders at the three newer hawker centres can save around S$200 a month.

The social enterprise management model of running hawker centres was introduced with the aim of keeping food prices low while making the hawker trade sustainable.

Sustainable for the NEA kleptocrats and cronies leeching off the business. :rolleyes:

This 'social enterprise' hawker centre is nothing more than a decentralized food court.
 
Sustainable for the NEA kleptocrats and cronies leeching off the business. :rolleyes:

This 'social enterprise' hawker centre is nothing more than a decentralized food court.
Does the rent includes those 'extras' like dish washing, cleanings, maintenance, security, pest control, etc? Last time that makansutra bought up those grievances included those extra cost which resulted in lack of profitability for the stall owners
 
Does the rent includes those 'extras' like dish washing, cleanings, maintenance, security, pest control, etc? Last time that makansutra bought up those grievances included those extra cost which resulted in lack of profitability for the stall owners
Seto is fake new. If you take your Straight Time antibiotics, you be wise and smart like me. :thumbsup:
 
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