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Sinovac’s Covid-19 vaccine performs worse than expected in new study

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Hong Kong fourth wave: minister promises tough safety checks after Sinovac’s Covid-19 vaccine performs worse than expected in new study

Kanis Leung

Wed, 13 January 2021, 4:32 pm·4-min read


Covid-19 vaccines will be subject to robust safety procedures before they are distributed to the Hong Kong public, a senior official has pledged after one brand procured by the city was found in a study to be significantly less effective than expected.

Civil service minister Patrick Nip Tak-kuen on Wednesday also said he believed that residents’ views on the coronavirus vaccines might change, as he responded to a newly released university poll conducted last summer that revealed less than 40 per cent of Hongkongers were willing to take the shots.

Far fewer Hongkongers willing to take coronavirus jab than needed: survey

Offering reassurances after new data emerged for the CoronaVac jab, manufactured by Beijing-based Sinovac, Nip said an advisory panel would review every vaccine based on clinical trial data and offer advice to the health authority before inoculation started.

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The minister overseeing the city’s vaccination roll-out added the shots must also secure approval for emergency use from a drug regulatory body outside Hong Kong, as well as a nod from the government.

“They have to go through these few steps, so that the vaccines can be used in Hong Kong. It’s to ensure the vaccine itself is safe, effective and has quality,” he said.
The city’s advisory panel will meet this week to review data from the three types of Covid-19 vaccines procured by the government, according to Nip, who said it was his understanding that clear advice would then be published.

The minister sought to allay public concerns after latest data produced by a Brazilian research institute listed the efficacy rate of CoronaVac as 50.4 per cent.

Last week, the São Paulo government said that vaccine was found to be 78 per cent effective in preventing mild cases of Covid-19, and 100 per cent effective against severe and moderate infections.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/hong-kong-fourth-wave-minister-053240577.html
 

tanwahtiu

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Academic new study always means when the war was over they come to write negative narratives to keep their arse jobs.

They fake the study to put fear on the subjects so they can write more to earn more dirty money.... whatelse...
 

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All vaccines carry a certain amount of risk. But better to be vaccinated than not at all.
 

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All vaccines carry a certain amount of risk. But better to be vaccinated than not at all.

For serious illnesses I agree but for something as mild as Covid the risk assessment can be complicated.

For the under 40s the risk of Covid is lower than the risk from influenza. The risk of the vaccine is still unknown.
 

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All vaccines carry a certain amount of risk. But better to be vaccinated than not at all.

Yeah, just pray you don't get long-lasting vaccination injuries, which could have been prevented if the PAP govt had shown common sense instead of diplomatic expediency. :cool:
 

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For serious illnesses I agree but for something as mild as Covid the risk assessment can be complicated.

For the under 40s the risk of Covid is lower than the risk from influenza. The risk of the vaccine is still unknown.

why don't your try googling "15 year old dies from Covid" and see what you find.
 

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For serious illnesses I agree but for something as mild as Covid the risk assessment can be complicated.

For the under 40s the risk of Covid is lower than the risk from influenza. The risk of the vaccine is still unknown.
Totally agree...and how does anyone know if the vaccine is anything but a placebo
 

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why don't your try googling "15 year old dies from Covid" and see what you find.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm

Similarities:

Both COVID-19 and flu
illness can result in severe illness and complications. Those at highest risk include:


  • Older adults
  • People with certain underlying medical conditions
  • Pregnant people
Differences:

The risk of complications for healthy children is higher for flu compared to COVID-19.
 

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https://www.cdc.gov/flu/highrisk/children.htm

Influenza is dangerous for children

Flu illness is more dangerous than the common cold for children. Each year, millions of children get sick with seasonal flu; thousands of children are hospitalized, and some children die from flu. Children commonly need medical care because of flu, especially children younger than 5 years old.


  • Complications from fluamong children in this age group can include:
    • Pneumonia: an illness where the lungs get infected and inflamed
    • Dehydration: when a child’s body loses too much water and salts, often because fluid losses are greater than from fluid intake)
    • Worsening of long-term medical problems like heart disease or asthma
    • Brain dysfunction such as encephalopathy
    • Sinus problems and ear infections
    • In rare cases, flu complications can lead to death.
  • Flu seasons vary in severity, however every year children are at risk
    • CDC estimates that since 2010, flu-related hospitalizations among children younger than 5 years old have ranged from 7,000 to 26,000 in the United States.
    • While relatively rare, some children die from flu each year. Since 2004-2005, flu-related deaths in children reported to CDC during regular flu seasons have ranged from 37 to 188 deaths. (During the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, 358 pediatric flu-related deaths were reported to CDC from April 2009 to September 2010.) It is noteworthy that among reported pediatric deaths, about 80% of those children were not fully vaccinated. Also of note, even though individual flu deaths in children must be reported to CDC, it is likely that not all deaths are captured and that the number of actual deaths is higher. CDC has developed statistical models that account for the underreporting of flu-related deaths in children to estimate the actual number of deaths. During 2017-2018, for example, 188 deaths in children were reported to CDC but statistical modeling suggests approximately 600 deaths may have occurred. More information about pediatric deaths since the 2004-2005 flu season is available in the interactive flu web application.
 

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Also found this!!!! Scary!!!

EXCLUSIVE: Wife of 'perfectly healthy' Miami doctor, 56, who died of a blood disorder 16 days after getting Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine is certain it was triggered by the jab, as drug giant investigates first death with a suspected link to shot
  • Beloved Miami obstetrician Gregory Michael, 56, died following a suspected catastrophic reaction to the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine, DailyMail.com can reveal
  • Heidi Neckelmann says her husband was completely healthy until he had the jab on December 18 at Mount Sinai Medical Center
  • He succumbed this week to a stroke brought on by acute IDP - Idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura - a blood disorder caused by a lack of platelets
  • IDP can be acute or chronic, lasting six months or more, striking on its own or in conjunction with other autoimmune conditions or certain cancers
  • Heidi insists, however, that her husband did not have an immune disorder or any similar condition that could have caused ITP
  • The mother-of-one said: 'In my mind his death was 100 percent linked to the vaccine. There is no other explanation'
  • She said: 'My husband had conversations with the doctors who said it was highly probable that the vaccine was the cause'
  • If his death is linked directly to the vaccine, Michael would be the first known case in the world of a person dying after the injection
  • A spokesman for Pfizer told DailyMail.com the firm was looking into Gregory's death but they did not believe it had any link to the vaccine
By Ben Ashford For Dailymail.com

Published: 10:54 AEDT, 7 January 2021 | Updated: 04:16 AEDT, 8 January 2021






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The grieving wife of a leading Florida doctor has told DailyMail.com how her ‘perfect’ husband died from a mystery blood disorder - just days after getting the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine.
Heidi Neckelmann says obstetrician Gregory Michael, 56 - her ‘best friend’ and partner of 28 years – was active, healthy and had no pre-existing conditions before getting the jab on December 18.
However he died from a stroke Sunday morning after suddenly developing a rare autoimmune illness that causes the body to destroy its own platelets, the tiny fragments that help blood to clot.

Distraught Heidi, 58, thinks the groundbreaking Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine may have somehow been the trigger.
‘In my mind his death was 100 percent linked to the vaccine. There is no other explanation,’ she told DailyMail.com, fighting back tears.
‘He was in very good health. He didn’t smoke, he drank alcohol once in a while but only socially. He worked out, we had kayaks, he was a deep sea fisherman.
‘They tested him for everything you can imagine afterwards, even cancer, and there was absolutely nothing else wrong with him.’
Pfizer told DailyMail.com Wednesday that it was aware of Dr. Michael's ‘highly unusual’ death and was investigating further.
However a spokesman cautioned: ‘We don’t believe at this time that there is any direct connection to the vaccine.’
Heidi Neckelmann says obstetrician Gregory Michael, 58, was completely healthy until he had the jab on December 18 at Mount Sinai Medical Center, where he works in Miami Beach


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Heidi Neckelmann says obstetrician Gregory Michael, 58, was completely healthy until he had the jab on December 18 at Mount Sinai Medical Center, where he works in Miami Beach
The mother-of-one said: 'In my mind his death was 100 percent linked to the vaccine. There is no other explanation.'  Pictured: Dr. Michael with his wife Heidi and daughter


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The mother-of-one said: 'In my mind his death was 100 percent linked to the vaccine. There is no other explanation.' Pictured: Dr. Michael with his wife Heidi and daughter
If his death is linked directly to the vaccine, Dr. Michael would be the first known case in the world of a person dying after having it. A spokesman for Pfizer told DailyMail.com the firm was looking into his death but they did not believe it had any link to the vaccine


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If his death is linked directly to the vaccine, Dr. Michael would be the first known case in the world of a person dying after having it. A spokesman for Pfizer told DailyMail.com the firm was looking into his death but they did not believe it had any link to the vaccine
Dad-of-one Gregory suffered no immediate reaction to the injection but three days later he was taking a shower and noticed petechiae - spots of red that indicate bleeding beneath the skin - on his feet and hands.
When he checked himself into Mount Sinai Medical Center in Miami Beach, the hospital where he works and had the groundbreaking vaccine, medics discovered he was suffering from an acute lack of platelets.
‘All the blood results came back normal except for the platelets which came back as zero,’ Heidi said.
‘At first they thought it must be a mistake. So they did the test again and this time did a manual count which is supposed to be more accurate. This time it showed just one platelet.
‘He felt 100 percent, he was normal, energetic, happy. But they said you cannot go home, this is incredibly dangerous, you could suffer a brain bleed and die.’
Normally doctors would expect a range of between 150,000 to 450,000 platelets per microliter of blood.
Their primary function is to help the blood clot and prevent bleeding.
Heidi says doctors tried frantically to reverse what they diagnosed as an acute immune disorder known as ITP - idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura.
In people with ITP, also known as severe thrombocytopenia, the immune system mistakes platelets for foreign objects and instructs the spleen to destroy them.
It can be acute or chronic, lasting six months or more, striking on its own or in conjunction with other autoimmune conditions, certain cancers or during pregnancy.
Kids can get ITP after a viral infection such as the flu or mumps, while in adults, triggers can include HIV, hepatitis or H. pylori, a type of bacteria that causes stomach ulcers.
Gregory’s wife insists, however, that had he none of these illnesses.
One solution to ITP is to remove the spleen but Heidi says he wasn’t a candidate because his blood wasn’t able to clot, making the operation too dangerous.
According to a harrowing account posted on his wife's Facebook, blood tests revealed the popular medic has a platelet count of zero


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According to a harrowing account posted on his wife's Facebook, blood tests revealed the popular medic has a platelet count of zero
Neckelmann did not disclose any allergies or pre-existing conditions which may have contributed to her husband's death


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Neckelmann did not disclose any allergies or pre-existing conditions which may have contributed to her husband's death
After two weeks of infusions and experimental treatments that failed to raise Gregory’s platelet count, doctors decided they had no choice.
However he died from a hemorrhagic stroke - when blood from an artery bleeds into the brain - before he could undergo the surgery.
‘They gave him medicine. They gave him an incredible amount of platelet infusions, I’m told all the platelets in Miami Dade County,’ Heidi said.
‘But no matter what they did, nothing helped. The blood tests came back with zero platelets every time.
‘My husband had conversations with the doctors who said it was highly probable that the vaccine was the cause.
‘It seems possible to me that somehow it instructed his body to attack the wrong thing, the platelets.’
If Gregory’s fatal condition is traced directly back to the groundbreaking Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, it would be the first known death linked to it.
The jab was heralded as an extraordinary breakthrough in the fight against Covid-19 after it was analyzed by global health bodies in record time and cleared for use in the US one week before Gregory had it.
Instead of a live virus, it uses mRNA, or messenger RNA, which is essentially a set of instructions which tells cells how to produce a spike protein, the same protein which is found on the surface of the coronavirus.
Dr. Gregory Michael was active, healthy and had no pre-existing conditions before getting the jab on December 18


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Dr. Gregory Michael was active, healthy and had no pre-existing conditions before getting the jab on December 18
This triggers the immune system to make antibodies against the spike protein so that if the real coronavirus enters the body it can be recognized and destroyed.
‘My husband had a few questions but he’s certainly not anti-vaccine,’ Heidi said. ‘He wanted to protect his patients and his family from Covid. He believed it would be safe.’
She met her husband 28 years ago when they were neighbors and he was in pre-med, about to embark on a successful career as an obstetrician.
Heidi was so smitten she immediately told friends ‘this is the man I’m going to marry.’
‘That’s exactly what happened, we fell in love, we were married for 21 years,’ she recalled, fighting back tears.
‘It was exactly as you see it in the movies, only that doesn’t normally happen in real life. I’m not just saying this because he is dead, but it was the perfect marriage. I cannot think of a time that we fought.
‘He was adored and loved by his patients. He delivered hundreds of healthy, beautiful babies. You have no idea how many texts I have received and the number of people calling me crying. He was just a special soul.’
Heidi said the couple’s 15-year-old daughter is struggling to comprehend that her doting father is gone.
‘They were both musicians. They would play the guitar together. They had the greatest connection ever,’ she added.
‘There is no way I am letting my daughter or anyone else in my family have the vaccine now, not until we know they have ironed out all the bugs and ensured that it’s safe.
‘I don’t want people to get sick from Covid and I’m not against vaccines but we need to slow things down.
‘They are giving this vaccine to some of the most important people, the doctors and nurses that take care of us, as well as the elderly, the most vulnerable.
‘As a doctor my husband would not have wanted anyone to take something that was not safe.’
Pfizer’s jab was licensed on December 11 for anyone aged 16 or older.
The FDA website warns of possible side effects lasting several days, including pain at the injection site, tiredness, headache, muscle pain, chills, joint pain, and fever.
Pfizer’s jab and another from Moderna are the only vaccines cleared for use in US and so far roughly 4.8 million doses have been administered.
Heidi said the couple's 15-year-old daughter is struggling to comprehend that her doting father is gone. 'They were both musicians. They would play the guitar together. They had the greatest connection ever,' she added. 'There is no way I am letting my daughter or anyone else in my family have the vaccine now, not until we know they have ironed out all the bugs and ensured that it's safe.'


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Heidi said the couple's 15-year-old daughter is struggling to comprehend that her doting father is gone. 'They were both musicians. They would play the guitar together. They had the greatest connection ever,' she added. 'There is no way I am letting my daughter or anyone else in my family have the vaccine now, not until we know they have ironed out all the bugs and ensured that it's safe.'
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that, to date, only 21 people have suffered severe allergic reactions.
All of those patients are said to have recovered, thanks largely to emergency injections of epinephrine, often given via an EpiPen.
‘Right now, the known and potential benefits of the current Covid-19 vaccines outweigh the known and potential risks of getting Covid-19,’ Dr. Nancy Messonnier, head of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, told reporters Wednesday.
A spokesman for Pfizer said the company’s immediate thoughts were with the bereaved family.
‘Pfizer and BioNTech are aware of the death of a healthcare professional sixteen days after receiving a first dose of BNT162b2,’ the spokesman said.
‘It is a highly unusual clinical case of severe thrombocytopenia, a condition that decreases the body’s ability to clot blood and stop internal bleeding.
 

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Someone says every year 500 people killed in a car accident, driverless car will be the same.

So 500 people died of covid, vaccine will be the same..
 

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https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm

Similarities:

Both COVID-19 and flu
illness can result in severe illness and complications. Those at highest risk include:


  • Older adults
  • People with certain underlying medical conditions
  • Pregnant people
Differences:

The risk of complications for healthy children is higher for flu compared to COVID-19.

show me a dying child who coughs out his putrified lungs from the flu and I'll agree with you.

evidence and data. not infographics.
 

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show me a dying child who coughs out his putrified lungs from the flu and I'll agree with you.

evidence and data. not infographics.

The data speaks for itself. Fatality rate for flu is higher than Covid for those under 40.
 
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