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Serious Sinkies Are Decent People! Local Erotic Films All Flop At Local Box Office!

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  1. JohnTan

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    SINGAPORE: No sex, please, we are Singaporeans.

    Actually, make that no on-screen sex, and especially if the on-screen sex is locally produced.

    Despite the longevity of the nowdefunct Yangtze Cinema, which screened sex-themed movies from the mid-1990s until last year, it seems that most Singaporeans do not have an appetite for celluloid sex, in particular, those made here.

    In the past couple of years, three home-grown erotic films - Lang Tong (2014), Rubbers (2014) and In The Room (2015) - performed poorly at the local box office.

    Collectively, they made less than $250,000 (RM780,000), which is not even a quarter of the $1.4mil (RM1.3mil) earned by a modest hit such as local comedy Taxi! Taxi! (2013).

    But this has not stopped Lang Tong writer-director Sam Loh from making another erotic movie - Siew Lup. The thriller, which opens on Feb 23, is about a former prostitute who, trapped in a loveless relationship, embarks on a steamy affair.

    Loh, 50, says: "I hope I'm able to showcase a different kind of film in Singapore, that we don't just churn out one kind of film. There are different directors doing different things, different from the usual HDB drama."

    He has a Herculean task on his hands because there could be a bias against local sex-themed films.

    Han Yew Kwang, who directed Rubbers, admits to being prejudiced himself: "If I go for Fifty Shades Of Grey (2015) or The Wolf Of Wall Street (2013), I expect to see some skin and really hot scenes. Asian or local films may not be as sexy."

    The 41-year-old says things may change if there are more of such titles and people come to accept them as a niche genre and become more comfortable watching them.

    But others in the industry do not think sex on-screen draws local cinemagoers only if it features foreigners.

    Ng Say Yong, 54, managing director of film producer and distributor mm2 Entertainment, says: "I think viewers will judge a movie based on its merits, whether it is well-made and has a compelling story and characters."

    Film-maker Eric Khoo, 51, concurs that there is no bias.

    His movie, In The Room, which weaves together six stories set in Room 27 at the fictitious Singapura Hotel, has Japanese adult-video actress Show Nishino in the cast, but also failed to sizzle at the box office.

    The bigger problem for local erotic films may not be the cast, but the rating.

    Too low a rating, say NC16 and below, could be a signal for audiences to move on. Han says: "I might feel there's nothing to see and it might turn me off."

    On the other hand, an R21 rating not only limits the demographic of the audience, but also comes with restrictions on marketing and locations where a film can be screened.

    R21 titles cannot be screened in suburban cinemas, and advertisements at bus stops, for example, are out of the question. The display of posters and banners for R21 films is restricted to cinemas licensed to exhibit such films.

    Han's sex comedy compendium, Rubbers, had a budget of $500,000 and made $110,000. It was rated R21 with no cuts; he had hoped for an M18 rating.

    A running gag in the movie was the blocking of genitalia through clever framing and strategically placed objects.

    The Info-communications Media Development Authority (IMDA) notes, though, in its online Films Classification Database that the movie has "several sexual scenes between a man and woman in different positions... as well as a scene of a porn actor (with) another man".

    Han says: "The tricky thing is how to make one that will get a comfortable rating and yet attract enough audiences. I'm still learning."

    In The Room was released in commercial cinemas here, with an "international version" which was tweaked from the version that premiered at the Singapore International Film Festival in 2015.

    Visual effects were added and no cuts were made. The film's executive producer Tan Fong Cheng had told The Straits Times that this was a "sexier" version.

    Regarding its R21 rating, IMDA notes: "In several scenes, couples are seen... in various sexual positions for extended periods of time. There are also scenes portraying foreplay between couples, featuring fullfrontal nudity with genitalia visible at times."

    Lang Tong, about a womaniser who is drawn into a murderous scheme involving two sisters, was rated R21 for its general release. It had three minutes of sex scenes, including two lesbian love scenes, snipped.

    But Loh says he was not deterred from sticking to his vision for Siew Lup.

    "The censorship thing is not my job. I'm a film-maker, my job is to make films."

    Siew Lup, which IMDA says has "frequent depiction of simulated sexual scenes coupled with nudity", has been given an R21 rating with no cuts.

    Given the difficulty of such racy flicks turning a profit, Clover Films managing director Lim Teck, 41, says his company has steered clear of making them.

    Not only is it "challenging" to obtain sponsorship revenue for sexthemed movies, he says, but there is also tough competition from more established markets such as Japan and South Korea, which have scores of such material readily available.

    Despite the dismal performance at the box office, local sex-themed films can be viable once foreign sales are taken into consideration.

    "The most important thing for films that are not comedies is that they should have legs overseas", says Khoo.

    In The Room had a reported estimated budget of $1 million and grossed $52,000 here. Add in its proceeds from sales to more than 10 territories, including France and Taiwan, and the production cost was recouped, says producer Tan.

    Lang Tong cost $500,000 and made $80,000, while Siew Lup cost $800,000.

    Ng from mm2 says the company had financially committed to the two titles from the get-go as it saw the potential in the film-maker.

    He says of Loh: "He's not just a sex-themed director - if that's the case, that's limiting. In fact, Sam is developing a horror film with us next. We see the suspense-thriller horror side of Sam more than the sex part."

    Lang Tong and Siew Lup have been sold to Taiwan and mm2 is in talks with South Korea and Japan. Ng says that Lang Tong "barely" broke even.

    Whether mm2 will finance the third instalment of Loh's planned erotic trilogy, Dim Sum, will depend on "market response to the second movie".

    In contrast with the struggle of local sex-themed films to find an audience, risque Hollywood flick Fifty Shades Of Grey (2015) grossed more than $2.4 million in Singapore. It is the top-grossing R-rated film here.

    Of course, it had a budget of US$40 million (S$56.9 million) and opened on 25 screens here.

    The collective budget of Lang Tong, Rubbers and In The Room was about $2 million and they each opened on between five and seven screens.

    A lower-budget film would have less resources for marketing and fewer screens mean a lower chance of getting seen.

    Moreover, Fifty Shades Of Grey, whose sequel Fifty Shades Darker in now in cinemas, has one key advantage over Lang Tong, In The Room and Rubbers - a built-in audience that has read E. L. James' best-selling novel, on which it is based.

    As Khoo says: "The book is so big that you will find a certain traction there." - The Straits Times/Asia News Network


    Read more at http://www.thestar.com.my/news/regi...films-flop-at-box-office/#rZXGAQlQDHEqLGsu.99
     
  2. zhihau

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    No wonder TFR dropped... :D:D:D
     
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    Why watch others, when you can direct and star in your very own porno? :confused:
     
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    they need professional help... there's Mal talent Alvin, and also HK talent cecilia cheung

    but i dont mind personally getting involved with serina wee if it helps to promote local movies to high orgasm.
     
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    It takes talent to direct sexual scenes to titillate but yet not pornography. It's not easy
    Think 9 & 1/2 weeks.
     
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    You all never watch this local pornography by ah jie lao zoe?

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    is this GILF?
     
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    "lau kway bu's tonic is the best! will fuck the juice out of her!"

    marjojohn...
     
  9. congo9

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    Actually if you want to see soft Porn, you can google a lot of Korea made soft porn. Their actress looks very good. They can act and they know how to act.

    All you need is a nice plot. Like Woman or man driven out of desperation and get into some emotional entanglment with some office boy or director.

    Or Women uses sex as a weapon to secure more power in Corporate board room. In the end only finding herself alone with all the material comfort. So on and so for.

    I can think of so many plot just sitting here at East Coast. I really don't know why aren't these movie director raking in big bucks show casing sex act. Last but not least, put in some play showcase by 50 shade of grey.

    You will be a hit from now on. Both Actor, actress and director.
     
  10. jw5

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    You can test out your plots in this forum. :D
     
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    who wants local porn after watching JAV.
     
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    How about getting government to fund projects encouraging hot sex in small spaces,,? Josephine can act as a lead in one project. Have a simple plot about a nymphomaniac getting fark by likes of Nigerian, ,angmo, PRC, Indian and other foreign talents.
     
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    My plot will sure hit the roof of box office , if director / actress and actor are all looking for fame and money. They must be firmly geared to the cause. No wavering. I make them famous and Oscar winning.
     
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    Many sinkies want to see zoe tay naked.
     
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    Sinkies dont want watch. They want to be in action.:D
     
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    Talk is cheap. Let's see it. :D
     
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    This actress above is good, shows orgasm is coming

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    Ah Jie should forget about erotic films, photo shows a dead cold fish, and the man's facial expression is like a bf who just detected a breast cancer lump in Ah Jie's left boob?

    Box office films don't do well cos there are better porno on the internet.
    TFR is down because guys probably PCC (Pah Chiew Cheng too much) lots of semen gets wasted into the reverse osmosis holding tanks giving NEWATER
     
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    Jack NEO, Honey not enough.
     
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    You know full well that Serina and Sun come as a package.
     
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    If you can get at erection looking at Zoe Tay, naked or not...naked, worse. YOU NEED AN IMMEDIATE ATTENTION...best, check with the good people, at Buangkok Medical Park. There are a good selection of help there.
     

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